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Post by Tiny on Sept 8, 2017 11:23:30 GMT -5
the thing is - if you stay for the storm and DON"T have a generator - what are you going to do with the gas you are hoarding? Once the storms past - you probably won't be able to drive anywhere - with trees and debris blocking the roads. And even once the roads are open it will be a few days (or longer) before stores/places of business are open. You're just stuck at home cleaning up.
FWIW: my brother is staying home (his wife is a nurse and will spend the weekend at the Hospital). Most of the neighborhood is also staying - a handful of their neighbors have generators and fuel (as in they can keep their fridge/freezer and TV running for up to 2 weeks). My family doesn't have a generator - but they are close with their neighbors so everyone's "pooling their resources". They haven't gotten an evaculation order (suggestion or mandatory) yet. My "stupid" brother doesn't have a crate for his little dog... so if they do have to move to a shelter - his dog may not get in. I'm hoping he can borrow one from a neighbor. If they survive this - I'm getting my "dog neice" a crate - my local Animal Shelter Resale store ALWAYS has a variety of crates at very reasonable prices. Other than that - they are set for the hurricane.
(I have cats - and over the years I've acquired a 'spare' set of cat accessories - an extra cat carrier, extra litter box, bowls etc... I suspect someone there will have an extra crate for his dog). Chainsaws? Offer to help run the neighbor's generator if they let you plug the fridge/freezer in? Be the only one who can get around when roads are finally clear enough to do so? Good points!
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 11:24:40 GMT -5
Chainsaws? Offer to help run the neighbor's generator if they let you plug the fridge/freezer in? Be the only one who can get around when roads are finally clear enough to do so? Good points! I hope your family gets through it ok! And everyone else here that's there or has family there.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 8, 2017 11:25:11 GMT -5
I felt so bad, yesterday they showed pictures of St Martin. Dh and I stayed there a year ago, at the end of a cruise, in the Hotel Mercure on the French side of the island, and it was a beautiful tropical oasis. They had several photos of the Mercure with their palm trees ripped away, roof gone, pool flooded, cars strewn around on the beach and the lawns. So sad. It will be years before St Martin gets that lush tropical feel again, since all the vegetation seems to be stripped away. The staff at the hotel and the restaurant workers in Marigot were so friendly, even the taxi guy was so nice, I hope they all came through the storm ok, and I hope the tourist industry gets back on it's feet quickly.
I saw pictues too. DH and I were there years ago. It was a lovely place. So sad. I was there maybe 3 years ago. It really is lovely. We had a great time kayaking and met some nice people from the US who had moved there. They had high level corporate jobs and decided they no longer wanted the stress.
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Post by gs11rmb on Sept 8, 2017 11:25:44 GMT -5
Atlanta is forecasted to receive 40 mph winds and 60 mph gusts. Not too bad... but we discovered last weekend that two of our pine trees are dead and need to come down. I can't get a tree service to call me back and I'm pretty sure we're out of time to get them down this weekend.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 8, 2017 11:28:41 GMT -5
Gotcha. There's more than two ways out - those are just the main ways and don't involve endless stretches with no gas stations and such. Do many states have more than two main interstates that go through them? This is the part where I tell you I slept through Andrew as a kid 😜 though we were far enough away to not get the brunt of it. Same in this instance. With it currently going up the center it should be decently weak by the time it gets here.
Disclosure: I've wondered why it was raining all day before only to be told don't I know there's a tropical storm over us. Another time a group of us waited for a break in the storm and then ran to the playground to play. So while I worry about hurricanes it's mostly the well over 100 mph sustained that worries me. So far it looks like they are predicting Irma to retain it's hurricane status for quite a while after it makes landfall IF it goes up the center of Florida (ie it might still have hurricane force winds as it nears Orlando)
That said, it looks like it's going to hit Florida from the West coast (as they have the track moving towards the Gulf). I was wrong - I was pretty sure Irma was going to crawl up the East Coast... it's looking like the East Coast of Florida will just have "bad weather" and the West Coast will get pummeled.
It also looks like the project course
I've always wondered what Disney and Universal do in preparation for a hurricane. I wouldn't think all those rides would be able to be secured very easily. I guess take in all the flags and awnings and trash cans and anything else that might blow away and cross their fingers?
Hope it doesn't hit Apalachicola too hard. That's our favorite 'isolated beach' vacation spot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 11:32:12 GMT -5
Meh. FL is about the same length as MN. That's a tank and a half. I'll bring two extra tank loads to be safe. A tank and a half if you'e actually moving and not idling for hours on end in traffic 2 extra might get you to where you can sit in the car in a small hurricane instead of the big one. I'm taking the dirt backroads remember? Jeez. You are just not a think outside the box kind of person are you. Wait a minute. Speaking of outside the box. I have a horse...
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 11:33:44 GMT -5
A tank and a half if you'e actually moving and not idling for hours on end in traffic 2 extra might get you to where you can sit in the car in a small hurricane instead of the big one. I'm taking the dirt backroads remember? Jeez. You are just not a think outside the box kind of person are you. Wait a minute. Speaking of outside the box. I have a horse... I do. You remember that you won't be the only one who knows those back roads are there right? I'm a "much rather be indoors anywhere than in the car or on a horse" person.
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Post by Tiny on Sept 8, 2017 11:34:14 GMT -5
What I haven't figured out is the number of people down here that are suddenly buying generators and plywood right before the storm. It makes way more sense to keep that in your garage or a shed (like my parents do) instead of buying and getting rid of it every hurricane. Or better yet, just buy hurricane shutters that are way easier than plywood to put up and sturdier too. I have neither because I can't because condo, but if I was in a house I would. Yeah, I wonder about that too.. I assume it's mostly new homeowners looking for the plywood and such? Cause the house they bought didn't come with the stuff OR they tossed out the stuff because they thought it was garbage OR the previous home owners took it/trashed it
I know mold is a thing... so maybe plywood that's been wet is difficult to dry and store for future use?
(FWIW: Mold is one of the problems my brother and his wife will have IF they loose power days... even if they don't get water or much wind damage. 
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Post by Tiny on Sept 8, 2017 11:37:57 GMT -5
I've always wondered what Disney and Universal do in preparation for a hurricane. I wouldn't think all those rides would be able to be secured very easily. I guess take in all the flags and awnings and trash cans and anything else that might blow away and cross their fingers?
Hope it doesn't hit Apalachicola too hard. That's our favorite 'isolated beach' vacation spot.
I saw an article that said Disney was taking down the spires on Cinderella's castle in preparation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 11:38:26 GMT -5
I'm taking the dirt backroads remember? Jeez. You are just not a think outside the box kind of person are you. Wait a minute. Speaking of outside the box. I have a horse... I do. You remember that you won't be the only one who knows those back roads are there right? I'm a "much rather be indoors anywhere than in the car or on a horse" person. Yeah, my brother said the same thing. He's staying put on the coast. I told him I think he's whack-a-doodle and I will not be coming down there to save his ass unless and until the hurricane (and the upcoming one) are long gone and average temperature drops below 60.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 11:40:12 GMT -5
I do. You remember that you won't be the only one who knows those back roads are there right? I'm a "much rather be indoors anywhere than in the car or on a horse" person. Yeah, my brother said the same thing. He's staying put on the coast. I told him I think he's whack-a-doodle and I will not be coming down there to save his ass unless and until the hurricane (and the upcoming one) are long gone and average temperature drops below 60. I can tolerate a lot of things but the idea of being stuck on the highway with my entire family in the CAR is not a vision I want to entertain. Aside from the terror of it, we'd all kill each other before the storm did.
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Post by Waffle on Sept 8, 2017 11:46:13 GMT -5
justme, this is probably a stupid Midwesterner question - but could you put plywood up on the inside of your condo windows? I realize it's probably too late for this storm- but I was just wondering if that could potentially minimize wind damage.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 11:52:05 GMT -5
justme , this is probably a stupid Midwesterner question - but could you put plywood up on the inside of your condo windows? I realize it's probably too late for this storm- but I was just wondering if that could potentially minimize wind damage. I'm going with no, just because once the window is broken the water is getting in anyway and that's a major damage problem all by itself, aside from the wind. I'm no building expert though.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 8, 2017 11:54:55 GMT -5
I paid my estimated taxes today instead of a week from now. I'm sure the IRS doesn't care if I'm in a hurricane!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 8, 2017 12:05:13 GMT -5
She can keep her snow and I'll keep my hurricanes. I do think it is was you are used to. I have a house in SW Florida and I'm a nervous wreck...I can't imagine how I would be if I lived there...well yes I can, my ass wouldn't be there! I've lost power for over a week up here because of an ice storm, we have had over 2 feet of snow dumped on us. I can deal with all of that...but Irma...nope, couldn't do it!
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Post by justme on Sept 8, 2017 12:13:08 GMT -5
justme, this is probably a stupid Midwesterner question - but could you put plywood up on the inside of your condo windows? I realize it's probably too late for this storm- but I was just wondering if that could potentially minimize wind damage. I suppose I could if I really wanted to. Would stop some damage, but my windows would still be ruined. But the outside is metal studs so I'm not sure how I could anchor it. Luckily my windows are north facing so I'm not too worried.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 8, 2017 12:23:07 GMT -5
Yeah, my brother said the same thing. He's staying put on the coast. I told him I think he's whack-a-doodle and I will not be coming down there to save his ass unless and until the hurricane (and the upcoming one) are long gone and average temperature drops below 60. I can tolerate a lot of things but the idea of being stuck on the highway with my entire family in the CAR is not a vision I want to entertain. Aside from the terror of it, we'd all kill each other before the storm did. That's why you take off to Vegas a few days early
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Post by movingforward on Sept 8, 2017 12:26:47 GMT -5
She can keep her snow and I'll keep my hurricanes. I do think it is was you are used to. I have a house in SW Florida and I'm a nervous wreck...I can't imagine how I would be if I lived there... well yes I can, my ass wouldn't be there! I've lost power for over a week up here because of an ice storm, we have had over 2 feet of snow dumped on us. I can deal with all of that...but Irma...nope, couldn't do it! I would be sitting at a pool in Vegas eating bonbons or something
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Post by milee on Sept 8, 2017 12:30:52 GMT -5
Hurricane forecast shifted west. We're finishing up evacuating the house (county just issued mandatory evacuation for the zone the house is in.) Will be heading down to our work building to finish securing it then deciding if we shelter there or go to one of the county shelters. Hoping it's a cat 3 or less by the time it gets here so we can shelter at work rather than the county shelters, but we'll work it out by tomorrow afternoon. All OK.
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Post by saveinla on Sept 8, 2017 12:32:10 GMT -5
Hurricane forecast shifted west. We're finishing up evacuating the house (county just issued mandatory evacuation for the zone the house is in.) Will be heading down to our work building to finish securing it then deciding if we shelter there or go to one of the county shelters. Hoping it's a cat 3 or less by the time it gets here so we can shelter at work rather than the county shelters, but we'll work it out by tomorrow afternoon. All OK. Stay safe milee.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 12:32:14 GMT -5
Hurricane forecast shifted west. We're finishing up evacuating the house (county just issued mandatory evacuation for the zone the house is in.) Will be heading down to our work building to finish securing it then deciding if we shelter there or go to one of the county shelters. Hoping it's a cat 3 or less by the time it gets here so we can shelter at work rather than the county shelters, but we'll work it out by tomorrow afternoon. All OK. Crap. My brother is in Clearwater.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Sept 8, 2017 12:43:00 GMT -5
Hurricane forecast shifted west. We're finishing up evacuating the house (county just issued mandatory evacuation for the zone the house is in.) Will be heading down to our work building to finish securing it then deciding if we shelter there or go to one of the county shelters. Hoping it's a cat 3 or less by the time it gets here so we can shelter at work rather than the county shelters, but we'll work it out by tomorrow afternoon. All OK. Not sure if you are the praying type, but you've got prayers and positive thoughts from me. Irma looks like a terrifying bitch so I'm glad you guys have places to go to be safe.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 8, 2017 12:44:13 GMT -5
Yup, I'm in a mandatory evacuation but no one is leaving. In fact my neighbors kids are coming to her house to stay.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 8, 2017 12:50:59 GMT -5
justme , this is probably a stupid Midwesterner question - but could you put plywood up on the inside of your condo windows? I realize it's probably too late for this storm- but I was just wondering if that could potentially minimize wind damage. If there is debris flying around and it hits your window, the plywood on the OUTSIDE helps prevent the glass breaking and would do a better job of keeping wind and water out. Wind pressure with the plywood on the outside of window and frame is far better than wind pressure on the breakable glass and then the plywood on the INSIDE. I am trying to think of an easy to understand analogy, but drawing a blank.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 12:54:26 GMT -5
justme , this is probably a stupid Midwesterner question - but could you put plywood up on the inside of your condo windows? I realize it's probably too late for this storm- but I was just wondering if that could potentially minimize wind damage. If there is debris flying around and it hits your window, the plywood on the OUTSIDE helps prevent the glass breaking and would do a better job of keeping wind and water out. Wind pressure with the plywood on the outside of window and frame is far better than wind pressure on the breakable glass and then the plywood on the INSIDE. I am trying to think of an easy to understand analogy, but drawing a blank. Right, it would be way better on the outside, but if she can't get to the outside due to it being a condo (and I'm assuming not ground floor), then you'd think having something on the inside to at least stop shards of glass from flying throughout the room would be helpful. But, sounds like that's not feasible either due to the construction.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 8, 2017 12:57:50 GMT -5
Yup, I'm in a mandatory evacuation but no one is leaving. In fact my neighbors kids are coming to her house to stay. hopefully you guys won't be calling emergency services to come for any reason. Those people shouldn't have to risk their lives to rescue people who were told to leave.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 13:06:54 GMT -5
Yup, I'm in a mandatory evacuation but no one is leaving. In fact my neighbors kids are coming to her house to stay. hopefully you guys won't be calling emergency services to come for any reason. Those people shouldn't have to risk their lives to rescue people who were told to leave. They won't go out in the middle of the storm. emergency services, that is.
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Post by movingforward on Sept 8, 2017 13:10:10 GMT -5
Yup, I'm in a mandatory evacuation but no one is leaving. In fact my neighbors kids are coming to her house to stay. hopefully you guys won't be calling emergency services to come for any reason. Those people shouldn't have to risk their lives to rescue people who were told to leave. Some of the people on the TX coast didn't leave because of looters. Sorry, I just don't understand that logic...people are going to risk losing their lives over some replaceable stuff that might end up getting damaged anyway . Then they ended up having to be rescued because their homes were flooding.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 8, 2017 13:16:20 GMT -5
I remember seeing this the next time there was a hurricane threatening the area.....
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