Chocolate Lover
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Sept 22, 2016 15:28:36 GMT -5
Ugh. Why is he making himself more work to do? He's lost his mind hasn't he? Do you have a neighbor who wouldn't mind coming over and sitting with the youngest when you have to pick up at 8:30? Give them a beer and say you'll be right back. It would have to be several beers with my neighbors. A trip to town is 45 minutes minimum. That's not a one beer trip for them. LOL Might still be cheaper than a sitter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 15:50:50 GMT -5
Is your older son going for Eagle Scout? If he is then I'd think that's going to be more important to colleges vs a HS speech team. It can also get him points later on in life depending on the career he goes into. He wants to. He's one rank below right now and is just 14, so he has time a lot of time, but he needs to keep moving forward. The plan was to finish his last 5 badges by the end of next summer then go on to planning the big project.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Sept 22, 2016 16:16:56 GMT -5
ugh. I was going to recommend you rent a small place in town for weeknights but then I remembered the chickens and the horse and whatever other barnyard animals you have. So, you'd have to go back out there every day anyway.
It's nice that the fathers are making lives for themselves, but that doesn't excuse them from helping out here. Can YDS sleep over his father's on that late night? It's a week night, so your ex is more likely to keep the visit low-key because they will both have to be up early in the morning. It sucks to give up that control, but if you don't, you're just going to have to suck it up and keep doing it the way you've been doing it. The one bright spot is that YDS will get older and able to manage the "late" nights better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 16:28:57 GMT -5
He leaves for work at 4:30am so that wouldn't work. He would bring him home after though. We'll see how it goes with him at the meetings.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 16:41:39 GMT -5
And he just texted me that he hurt his back and isn't sure if he'll make it to Intro to Scouting tonight. Off to a great start!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 22, 2016 17:14:24 GMT -5
My husband is an Eagle Scout. It really hasn't helped him much with college or his career.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 22, 2016 23:47:12 GMT -5
My husband is an Eagle Scout. It really hasn't helped him much with college or his career. Well. It depends. Scouting provided my DH with a job for several summers (at least 4.) It didn't help DH with his career, directly. But, DH is has always been interested in doing outdoors type stuff. Which was related to both of his degrees. There is a scout office in town, and DH has contemplated working there in a support role (as opposed to a District executive.) My DH also didn't really do anything else, in terms of extra-curriculars. Of course, when we went to school, you didn't need to be active in a billion things. So, it was important for his college. I'm also hoping that DS might chose to work at camp as he gets older. I'm not sure he's cut out to have a job during the school year and do what's expected for college prep. That said...Cubs at age 6..meh. I think the Webelos programs are more important..but that's where you get to do more things. You can always join up later. It's not either join as a tiger (I think that's the first level...I've forgotten), or you can never do the program. Scouting membership is way down, and being an eagle is going to be even more of an accomplishment since less are doing it. (Of course, they did that to themselves.) I still think that becoming an eagle scout is pretty respectable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 7:23:26 GMT -5
My husband is an Eagle Scout. It really hasn't helped him much with college or his career. I think that's really hard to quantify. He may not have gotten a job because "Eagle Scout" was on his resume, but what he went through to become one may very well have given him the poise and confidence to win over an employer in his interview. Knowing what I do about what it takes to actually make it to that rank, I just can't imagine it doesn't change a person.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 7:27:45 GMT -5
That said...Cubs at age 6..meh. I think the Webelos programs are more important..but that's where you get to do more things. You can always join up later. It's not either join as a tiger (I think that's the first level...I've forgotten), or you can never do the program. True, but the nice thing is the boys develop a relationship from the very start and they get to look on in awe every Blue and Gold as the Webelos II cross over and dream of the day it's their turn. Older son is still with the same group of boys he started out with 8 years ago. I think only one or two started later. It's really neat going through old pictures of the Tiger Den with those kids in shirts down to their knees compared to what they are now.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 23, 2016 7:57:34 GMT -5
My husband is an Eagle Scout. It really hasn't helped him much with college or his career. I think that's really hard to quantify. He may not have gotten a job because "Eagle Scout" was on his resume, but what he went through to become one may very well have given him the poise and confidence to win over an employer in his interview. Knowing what I do about what it takes to actually make it to that rank, I just can't imagine it doesn't change a person. You're right, it really is hard to tell for sure. He really isn't that poised or confident, though. But who knows, maybe it would have been less if he hadn't gotten the rank? It's hard to know if having it on his resume didn't give him a little edge. But his friends mentioned it should be like a golden ticket, and it was absolutely not. He struggled getting a decent job even more than I did. His personality is a lot like mine, and we both think we would have gotten a lot farther in life if we were more extroverted--plain and simple. His brother is extroverted, and he's doing better in his career without any college degree or eagle scout ranking, simply because he's outgoing.
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Post by alabamagal on Sept 23, 2016 10:43:47 GMT -5
My DH and both my boys are Eagle Scouts.
I had to encourage youngest one to even put it on his resume. He thought it didn't make much difference. I told him it made a big difference with the people who are hiring.
It's not like people will only hire Eagle Scouts, but to me it is a big positive, like a good reference, to get your foot in the door.
BTW my sons did not start in Cub Scouts or the younger ones. They started at 12 (I think). They were in a great troop with a good leader, who had a large number of boys make Eagle Scout. That helped a lot!
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 23, 2016 14:18:16 GMT -5
My only experience is a father who was an Eagle Scout and forced his three boys to do it. The youngest still won't have anything to do with him so I'm sure this wasn't the only issue in their relationship but when he mentioned to me that his kids weren't into it and how disappointed he was, I said something to the effect of how they were great kids so why fret over something like this? You'd have thought I kicked him in the crotch. Needless to say I didn't mention it again.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 23, 2016 14:19:12 GMT -5
It's a great father son bonding experience if all are on board.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 19:28:29 GMT -5
Well, he signed up for speech team today. I was kind of hoping after we met with the coach he'd put up a fight and say he really didn't want to do it abd I'd say, ok, but he seemed excited about it instead. I thought "great!", until I found out I was going to have to judge at meets. Not so great....
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