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Post by tloonya on Feb 19, 2016 17:18:43 GMT -5
I have applied for the job at the supermarket that is constantly hiring about 2 months ago. Any position. Any shift any pay. No word. I know everyone in this neighborhood place because I am there daily for home and business. Everyone know me by name and I know this store like the back of my hand. I was introduced to HR lady (laugh all you want - her name is...Latisha!) and she called me that day to tell me there is no application with my name so I had re-submitted about 10 days ago. Since then I am calling her and leaving messages and no word!
Today my tenant with Arabic name came home after hospital and said she had applied and got call next day! She said she was in a hospital and be back yesterday and she got call yesterday! For an interview with named position.
I got really mad because I see discrimination written all over it! I have Russian first name and Jewish last name so I am not getting ANY attention Are you friggin kidding me? I have all credentials by being a business owner, knowing produce, managing people, cash register etc. Should I just write to their headquarter about it? I am seething
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 19, 2016 17:23:24 GMT -5
Maybe they just don't like you for the job. You can be qualified for one and still not a good fit for various reasons. Why do you think that's discrimination? Have they hired everyone that submitted an application except for Russian or Jewish people?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 19, 2016 17:27:27 GMT -5
... (laugh all you want - her name is...Latisha!) ... Why we would laugh that her name is Latisha?
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Post by hoops902 on Feb 19, 2016 17:30:58 GMT -5
... (laugh all you want - her name is...Latisha!) ... Why we would laugh that her name is Latisha? I think that was the name of a Wal-Mart lady that Loony had a run in on a previous thread a while ago.
In response to the thread though...I would presume that there's a lot more discrimination out there towards people with Arabic names these days than those with Jewish or Russian names. Maybe they just don't like you...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:37:53 GMT -5
Why do you think it is discrimination instead of qualifications? Seems like you would be overqualified based on being a business owner. Didn't you also say you were an IT programmer in the past too? When you were introduced to Latisha, what exactly did you say to her? Did the store check your references? What happened to your store ?
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 19, 2016 20:11:13 GMT -5
Go back to the store on a regular basis and talk with the manager about the job. Make sure they know you are serious about wanting to work for their store. Persistence pays off.
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Post by swamp on Feb 19, 2016 20:26:13 GMT -5
Maybe they don't like you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 21:20:08 GMT -5
Maybe they don't like you? Now you're just talking foolishness! Who doesn't love the tloonya?
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Post by wmpeon on Feb 20, 2016 18:08:15 GMT -5
If many of the people there know you by name, and you have already followed-up with them, then it's likely one of the people there either doesn't like you or doesn't think you would be a good fit in the position. It sucks, but it is what it is.
If you decide to keep pursuing this, why not ask who you need to speak with about hiring decisions? This is the person (and it is not HR) that you need to get to like you and decide to hire you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 18:27:23 GMT -5
Is this the only grocery store in town? Go to another one and put in an application.
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tloonya
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 9:09:58 GMT -5
Is this the only grocery store in town? Go to another one and put in an application. This one is a walking distance for me. And I KNOW this store.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 9:11:51 GMT -5
Go back to the store on a regular basis and talk with the manager about the job. Make sure they know you are serious about wanting to work for their store. Persistence pays off. I spoke with her once. She said she haven't seen my application so I re-aplied. Now I am calling her leaving her messages and she isn't calling me back. What is it?
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 9:14:12 GMT -5
Maybe they don't like you? do you hear yourself?
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 9:16:33 GMT -5
... (laugh all you want - her name is...Latisha!) ... Why we would laugh that her name is Latisha? Are you new? Based on your status you aren't. So how could you not know about Latisha? What about Amish chickens? Doesn't ring the bell? Weird...
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 9:17:52 GMT -5
Maybe they just don't like you for the job. You can be qualified for one and still not a good fit for various reasons. Why do you think that's discrimination? Have they hired everyone that submitted an application except for Russian or Jewish people? I had not actually seen any Russian nor Jew in there.
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 21, 2016 9:38:33 GMT -5
Doesn't Philadelphia have more than one grocery store?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 9:49:08 GMT -5
Looney, I mean this as nicely as I can be... You would have too much, personailty, for me as an employee. I would expect an employee to follow our lead, behave as we expect in dealing with customers and do things our way. You can give off a vibe that you might make that a difficult process. Sorry, but...
I actually think your best bet would be going to a store where they DONT know you. Where you can 'reinvent' yourself and spin the store closing as you really want less responsibility and control and just want to use your experience as the new store sees fit to take advantage of it... If that makes sense.
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Post by kittensaver on Feb 21, 2016 9:51:54 GMT -5
Maybe they just don't like you for the job. You can be qualified for one and still not a good fit for various reasons. Why do you think that's discrimination? Have they hired everyone that submitted an application except for Russian or Jewish people? I had not actually seen any Russian nor Jew in there. This does not qualify as discrimination. Just because they're not responding to you does not mean you are being subject to discrimination. Have you talked to any other Russians/Jews who have applied for work there? Have they been turned down or denied an interview? The only way you can even *begin* to make a claim of discrimination in employment is if you can *show* that there is what is called a "pattern and practice" of refusing to interview or hire persons of a protected class. Or if they make statements (internally/privately or in public) that they don't hire certain persons in certain protected classes. If they don't want to talk to you, maybe they just don't like you or want you . That in and of itself is not discrimination. Maybe they see you as competition or wonder/worry about your motives for working there when you already HAVE a store? Maybe they only want to hire full-time and they assume you can't do it because you have a store? Maybe this Latisha person had a negative reaction to you? Who knows? Now - if you can actually FIND a handful or a small group of Russians and/or Jews who have been turned down for an interview or for employment while they are simultaneously actively advertising and hiring (or if you can substantiate an employee of the organizations making statements that they don't hire Russians and/or Jews), you *MIGHT* be on to the *BEGINNINGS* of something. But sincerely sorry to tell you this - one person does not qualify as a claim for discrimination.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Feb 21, 2016 9:51:47 GMT -5
Well, there is always the possibility you are spot on, and should file a discrimination suit.
Or change your name?
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 21, 2016 9:54:44 GMT -5
Looney, I mean this as nicely as I can be... You would have too much, personailty, for me as an employee. I would expect an employee to follow our lead, behave as we expect in dealing with customers and do things our way. You can give off a vibe that you might make that a difficult process. Sorry, but... I actually think your best bet would be going to a store where they DONT know you. Where you can 'reinvent' yourself and spin the store closing as you really want less responsibility and control and just want to use your experience as the new store sees fit to take advantage of it... If that makes sense. Wow! That's a bit condescending. I'll bet the view is nice from up there atop your throne.
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Post by kittensaver on Feb 21, 2016 9:58:39 GMT -5
Well, there is always the possibility you are spot on, and should file a discrimination suit. Or change your name? If she seriously believes there is discrimination there, she can always go to her State office (whatever that is, it is different in different States) that handles employment discrimination claims. Unless she was outright told by the store that they don't want her because of her class, there is probably very little they (the State agency) will do - unless others just like her have also made similar complaints. Given enough complaints, one of their options is to send out "ringers" - others in her class who work for the State agency to pose as applicants . . . and see what happens. But they're NOT going to do it for one person. They pretty much have to have a good reason (aka, multiple complaints) to open an investigation on this employer.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Feb 21, 2016 10:13:49 GMT -5
What's the fun in that! She needs to find the Jewish-Russian equivalent of "Reverend Al" and get this place plastered all over the paper and the local news.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 21, 2016 11:51:37 GMT -5
Why we would laugh that her name is Latisha? Are you new? Based on your status you aren't. So how could you not know about Latisha? What about Amish chickens? Doesn't ring the bell? Weird...
I selectively read threads. The topic of discrimination is one of interest to me so I opened this thread, read the OP, and responded. Hoops kindly informed me that the reason for laughter was personal. I had stopped following this thread until until I got the notification you had quoted me. I stopped back by to see if a response was called for and if there was a reason I might wish to re-engage in the thread. I found the first to be true and the second not. Amish chickens do not ring a bell to me. If they weren't being discriminated against based on their Amish faith, protesting government chicken grazing on public land policy, or running for elective office on a platform of a cow in every pot, then I don't know why I would know about them.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 21, 2016 13:14:50 GMT -5
I had just remembered one summer my daughter and her 2 friends (Irish) had applied and NONE of them got a call. They were HS students back than. However I had seen tons of new teens in there. And NO - no one knew I was the mother
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Feb 21, 2016 18:28:08 GMT -5
... (laugh all you want - her name is...Latisha!) ... Why we would laugh that her name is Latisha? Yup, maybe she sensed you thought her name was funny or that you somehow rubbed her the wrong way? Not a good idea to insult the HR person you are meeting with.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Feb 21, 2016 18:29:24 GMT -5
Go back to the store on a regular basis and talk with the manager about the job. Make sure they know you are serious about wanting to work for their store. Persistence pays off. I spoke with her once. She said she haven't seen my application so I re-aplied. Now I am calling her leaving her messages and she isn't calling me back. What is it?
One message was probably enough.
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Post by tloonya on Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5
She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview! So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ! AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 22, 2016 11:19:50 GMT -5
She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview! So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ! AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against! Your computer skills suck, but you want an IT position?
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Feb 22, 2016 11:33:29 GMT -5
Another suggestion? Be careful of what you post on different social media sites. Employers check those sites, such as Facebook, etc. People don't always know to hide stuff (or whatever you call it) so that only friends can see it. If you are posting outlandish stuff on a social media site, chances are your potential employers are seeing it. That kind of stuff has x'ed more than one person out of an interview.
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Post by Regis on Feb 22, 2016 11:45:00 GMT -5
She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview! So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ! AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against! If you left me a message like that, it would definitely cross my mind that you're LOOKING for a discrimination case. Drama is not something I'm interested in managing in the office so I'd probably pass. I'd much rather spend my time and energy managing people, budgets and projects.
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