Let's talk discrimination!

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Maybe it's the same Latisha that used to work at Wal-mart and she remembers you.

[tloonya]

Feb 22, 2016 11:19:50 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview!

So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ!

AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!

Your computer skills suck, but you want an IT position?

HAHA?

[tloonya]

Feb 22, 2016 11:45:00 GMT -5 Regis said:

Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview!

So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ!

AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!

If you left me a message like that, it would definitely cross my mind that you're LOOKING for a discrimination case.  Drama is not something I'm interested in managing in the office so I'd probably pass.  I'd much rather spend my time and energy managing people, budgets and projects.

It worked

[Tennesseer]

Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview!

So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ!

AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!

My guess is the HR person is going to look for any reason now not to hire you. Not a smart move on your part, tloonya. And I am a retired HR person who dealt with employment issues, and who also conducted EEO complaints and separately, opened, approved the findings, and closed EEO complaints.

If the HR person is smart, she will save a recording of your message.

[beergut]

Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview!

So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ!

AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!

You just insinuated in your message that she is a bigot, and you wonder why you haven't been hired yet?  

If I had received a message like that, I would have placed your application in the circular file. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 25, 2016 3:03:39 GMT -5 beergut said:

Feb 22, 2016 10:58:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

She just had called me. Couldn't find my resume AGAIN!...so my computer skills suck really badly!), however ask to show up tomorrow for the interview!

So ONE message was NOT enough, BBQ!

AFTER I said on my message 'I hope it is not my last name, age or an accent' she had come to her senses! Not that I am saying they going to hire me...but at least she knows I am not going to sit there waiting to be discriminated against!

You just insinuated in your message that she is a bigot, and you wonder why you haven't been hired yet?  

If I had received a message like that, I would have placed your application in the circular file. 

That, and her claim "I know everyone in this neighborhood place because I am there daily for homeand business. Everyone know me by name and I know this store like the back of my hand", reminds me of the idiom, 'Familiarity breeds contempt'.

[tloonya]

Whatever you say. I had an interview yesterday. We had a nice conversation.

While we were talking bunch of employees were coming by to greet me. We were talking at the coffee shop because they had a whole bunch of executives roaming the store. So she got me at the coffee shop. Which is my favorite place anyway.

When she left my coffee lady said - seems like you were doing ok, because we had laughed and talked everything.

So you guys be downers. I will go as I know.

[beergut]

Did you get the job?

[zibazinski]

Mar 4, 2016 5:14:13 GMT -5 beergut said:

Did you get the job?

Especially since your daughter is vacationing.

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 8:22:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Mar 4, 2016 5:14:13 GMT -5 beergut said:

Did you get the job?

Especially since your daughter is vacationing.

No job yet. Different story. Will tell. Later

zib,

we have paid timeshare. My daughter booked gorgeous room which otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford and girls bought her ticket in exchange. So...keep spewing hate. Or maybe stop?

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Mar 4, 2016 13:25:32 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 4, 2016 8:22:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Especially since your daughter is vacationing.

No job yet. Different story. Will tell. Later

zib,

we have paid timeshare. My daughter booked gorgeous room which otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford and girls bought her ticket in exchange. So...keep spewing hate. Or maybe stop?

Well, we can talk about how much of a ripoff timeshares are...

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 13:29:36 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:25:32 GMT -5 tloonya said:

No job yet. Different story. Will tell. Later

zib,

we have paid timeshare. My daughter booked gorgeous room which otherwise they wouldn't be able to afford and girls bought her ticket in exchange. So...keep spewing hate. Or maybe stop?

Well, we can talk about how much of a ripoff timeshares are...

It is not for everyone. I can tell that after staying in regular hotels for $100 and up we went to timeshare resort and I had asked how much our room cost - it was $410 per night IF we didn't have timeshare. So these rooms (and we have smallest unit) are having living rooms, kitchen, main bedroom with Jacuzzi and all the furniture is super new. Every time we went we were amazed how well these resorts are maintained for $40 monthly we are paying now after its paid off.

We would never be able to afford anything like that for $500 per year. And we sometimes get additional points for free and upgrades.

So I had heard if you are smart enough you can rent your room to somebody and get those $500 back easily. And still have one more vacation per year.

My dream is www.ochocascadas.com/ where room is cost $700 per night. We would have to pay $129 exchange fee and a flight. Can't beat that! Can you?

But of course there is always Motel6!

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Mar 4, 2016 13:44:18 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:29:36 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Well, we can talk about how much of a ripoff timeshares are...

It is not for everyone. I can tell that after staying in regular hotels for $100 and up we went to timeshare resort and I had asked how much our room cost - it was $410 per night IF we didn't have timeshare. So these rooms (and we have smallest unit) are having living rooms, kitchen, main bedroom with Jacuzzi and all the furniture is super new. Every time we went we were amazed how well these resorts are maintained for $40 monthly we are paying now after its paid off.

We would never be able to afford anything like that for $500 per year. And we sometimes get additional points for free and upgrades.

So I had heard if you are smart enough you can rent your room to somebody and get those $500 back easily. And still have one more vacation per year.

My dream is www.ochocascadas.com/ where room is cost $700 per night. We would have to pay $129 exchange fee and a flight. Can't beat that! Can you?

But of course there is always Motel6!

Yes, I know a lot about timeshares.  I'm set to inherit two extremely nice ones, and have stayed at them all over the country, but I still think they're a ripoff. 

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 13:51:52 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:44:18 GMT -5 tloonya said:

It is not for everyone. I can tell that after staying in regular hotels for $100 and up we went to timeshare resort and I had asked how much our room cost - it was $410 per night IF we didn't have timeshare. So these rooms (and we have smallest unit) are having living rooms, kitchen, main bedroom with Jacuzzi and all the furniture is super new. Every time we went we were amazed how well these resorts are maintained for $40 monthly we are paying now after its paid off.

We would never be able to afford anything like that for $500 per year. And we sometimes get additional points for free and upgrades.

So I had heard if you are smart enough you can rent your room to somebody and get those $500 back easily. And still have one more vacation per year.

My dream is www.ochocascadas.com/ where room is cost $700 per night. We would have to pay $129 exchange fee and a flight. Can't beat that! Can you?

But of course there is always Motel6!

Yes, I know a lot about timeshares.  I'm set to inherit two extremely nice ones, and have stayed at them all over the country, but I still think they're a ripoff. 

WHY?

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2016 13:54:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:51:52 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Yes, I know a lot about timeshares.  I'm set to inherit two extremely nice ones, and have stayed at them all over the country, but I still think they're a ripoff. 

WHY?

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

[Opti]

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:54:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

WHY?

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

Have they tried giving the timeshare back to the company?

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Mar 4, 2016 14:17:07 GMT -5 Opti said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

Have they tried giving the timeshare back to the company?

I'm not sure.  I think they like hanging on to it and just gifting the weeks to family, but if someone came along to buy they'd sell it.  They've NEVER stayed at that one, they just use it for trading for other resorts and the money for the maintenance fees is not an issue for them.  However, they would be for my brothers and I if it were dropped on our laps today.  Maybe they'll live another 30 years and I'll be wealthy enough then to not care.  

[chen35]

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:54:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

WHY?

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

You don't HAVE to take something like that, do you? 

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 13:54:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

WHY?

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

How big of an accommodation they have for $2K each? WOW!

You can actually freeze and hold your points for 2 years I think and add them up for next time.

But I guess each company has own rules.

Also like if we can't afford to fly - we can choose beautiful place in drivable distance.

I think their mistake was is to purchase so much at the first place.

And if you can't use it - place ad in a paper and get your money worth.

There is always a way. Like we can't use it so we send kids for them to enjoy.

Or relatives. Great gift if you can place someone for Anniversary in Atlantic City

Resort. Or BDay. Or as we did second honeymoon for Dh's niece.

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 14:31:27 GMT -5 chen35 said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

You don't HAVE to take something like that, do you? 

Like forceful inheritance? 

I think you can only call and ask. But if MPL says they don't have an issue paying it - I don't see how bad it is. There is also a good thing when you are involved into some groups to take vacation

together. This way everyone can go because it is not too expensive. A lot of ways to use it.

[souldoubt]

I wouldn't accept an inherited timeshare.  

[zibazinski]

Isn't it amazing how people with no money and no financial common sense keep on the same path as opposed to learning.

[souldoubt]

Mar 4, 2016 14:31:27 GMT -5 chen35 said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

You don't HAVE to take something like that, do you? 

If you've never signed anything I don't see how you could legally be forced to but I'm not a lawyer.  

[chen35]

If they could force MPL to take it, that would take timeshares to a whole new level of ripoff.

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Mar 4, 2016 14:31:46 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:09:47 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Well, for one thing.  The maintenance fees aren't fixed.  My parents have had their timeshares almost 30 years and they're now paying nearly 2K/year maintenance, EACH.  That pays for a lot of rooms. 

Plus I don't want to be locked into a vacation every year, to "get my money's worth".  Some years I just can't afford it.  Even with a free room, you still have to take vacation from work, pay airfare, board pets, etc.  I haven't gone anywhere for the past three years. 

They've been trying to sell the one for nearly 15 years now.  I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when they die.  Maybe just refuse it?

How big of an accommodation they have for $2K each? WOW!

You can actually freeze and hold your points for 2 years I think and add them up for next time.

But I guess each company has own rules.

Also like if we can't afford to fly - we can choose beautiful place in drivable distance.

I think their mistake was is to purchase so much at the first place.

And if you can't use it - place ad in a paper and get your money worth.

There is always a way. Like we can't use it so we send kids for them to enjoy.

Or relatives. Great gift if you can place someone for Anniversary in Atlantic City

Resort. Or BDay. Or as we did second honeymoon for Dh's niece.

They're both three bedroom.  I think it's more the location and week that are valuable.  Hyatt grades theirs based on the popularity, so it's a "Gold" or whatever the highest is.  They get enough points to get 2-3 weeks at most other locations so usually don't actually go to their owned unit. 

I think my point is, that while they can afford to toss a few thousand away every year to gift family members, that's not a "good deal" on a vacation for me.  Well, except when they're gifting ME the weeks.  Then it's a good deal.    My parents will be the first to tell someone not to get one.  I've had a couple cousins consider it and she's called them up and told them if they ever wanted to stay somewhere, just call her, don't go throwing 10K or whatever it is on the timeshare.

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 14:57:55 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:31:46 GMT -5 tloonya said:

How big of an accommodation they have for $2K each? WOW!

You can actually freeze and hold your points for 2 years I think and add them up for next time.

But I guess each company has own rules.

Also like if we can't afford to fly - we can choose beautiful place in drivable distance.

I think their mistake was is to purchase so much at the first place.

And if you can't use it - place ad in a paper and get your money worth.

There is always a way. Like we can't use it so we send kids for them to enjoy.

Or relatives. Great gift if you can place someone for Anniversary in Atlantic City

Resort. Or BDay. Or as we did second honeymoon for Dh's niece.

They're both three bedroom.  I think it's more the location and week that are valuable.  Hyatt grades theirs based on the popularity, so it's a "Gold" or whatever the highest is.  They get enough points to get 2-3 weeks at most other locations so usually don't actually go to their owned unit. 

I think my point is, that while they can afford to toss a few thousand away every year to gift family members, that's not a "good deal" on a vacation for me.  Well, except when they're gifting ME the weeks.  Then it's a good deal.    My parents will be the first to tell someone not to get one.  I've had a couple cousins consider it and she's called them up and told them if they ever wanted to stay somewhere, just call her, don't go throwing 10K or whatever it is on the timeshare.

So they have an old model where they locked into the same week each year?

Still too much room they have bought to begin with.

[Deleted]

Mar 4, 2016 15:05:03 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Mar 4, 2016 14:57:55 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

They're both three bedroom.  I think it's more the location and week that are valuable.  Hyatt grades theirs based on the popularity, so it's a "Gold" or whatever the highest is.  They get enough points to get 2-3 weeks at most other locations so usually don't actually go to their owned unit. 

I think my point is, that while they can afford to toss a few thousand away every year to gift family members, that's not a "good deal" on a vacation for me.  Well, except when they're gifting ME the weeks.  Then it's a good deal.    My parents will be the first to tell someone not to get one.  I've had a couple cousins consider it and she's called them up and told them if they ever wanted to stay somewhere, just call her, don't go throwing 10K or whatever it is on the timeshare.

So they have an old model where they locked into the same week each year?

Still too much room they have bought to begin with.

They're not locked into that week.  That's just the week they own.  Like I said, they never use their week at either place.  They trade them every year.  As for being too big.  It was for them and 3 kids/guests, 30 years ago. 

Again, they're having no issue tossing money away at a couple timeshares, but it's a luxury for sure.  Not an economical way to vacation if you're struggling.

[tloonya]

I really need to understand this.

So...they're having no issue tossing money away at a couple timeshares while struggling?

If this is correct I will ask my next question.

[Deleted]

They are not struggling by any means.  They have a lot of money.  They can afford the timeshares just like they can afford the 50K new vehicles and the cable package with every channel.  I'm saying it's a luxury.  Not a deal. 

[tloonya]

Mar 4, 2016 15:36:11 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

They are not struggling by any means.  They have a lot of money.  They can afford the timeshares just like they can afford the 50K new vehicles and the cable package with every channel.  I'm saying it's a luxury.  Not a deal. 

I'm saying it's a luxury. (understood)

Not a deal.  (whaaat? what is meaning of that?)