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Post by billisonboard on Feb 15, 2016 12:08:28 GMT -5
I'm now imagining a horrible pink tube top with orange swastikas over the nipples. What do you think her name might be? Helga Hitonher, after all she took on the entire Russian Army as well?
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 12:19:14 GMT -5
I'm now imagining a horrible pink tube top with orange swastikas over the nipples. What do you think her name might be? Neonnipplitastic Awesomew'affen Rewopetihw
Would be culturally congruent names that a new mother would definitely consider when holding this tiny, newborn bundle of joy. It is sad and disgusting that you want to judge this person based solely on the fact that she was raised by people who want to kill everybody else that doesn't look like them and who aren't part of the master race and that she is proud of that heritage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 12:27:24 GMT -5
Actually milee in this analogy you are the one proudly displaying the swastikas in your office. And explaining why it's okay because it's professional and nobody was being racist or a misogynist. Bye
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 12:30:10 GMT -5
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 15, 2016 12:39:40 GMT -5
I'm now imagining a horrible pink tube top with orange swastikas over the nipples. What do you think her name might be? Unemployed . Wait, that is so not how I got laid off, yanno.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 12:51:24 GMT -5
Wow, I can't believe anyone would have those up at the workplace in this day and age.
At my first company this guy had 3 posters/stickers on the wall of his cubical with his opinion on the topic of abortion (not opening up the topic for debate on this board and not even gonna say which way this guy supported). They weren't up long but I never heard what happened with it.
I would never show my political persuasions at the workplace.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 15, 2016 12:52:37 GMT -5
. Wait, that is so not how I got laid off, yanno. yours was white and gold?
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 15, 2016 12:52:48 GMT -5
Yah, I'm wondering about the due diligence done before the purchase as well.
If the transaction is complete, and if I truly don't need this guy's assistance and knowledge to help me step in and start running the place (i.e., he's just a figurehead), then I'd walk him quickly to the nearest exit.
And keep an eye on the retained employees -- birds of a feather and all that...
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 15, 2016 13:09:03 GMT -5
. Wait, that is so not how I got laid off, yanno. yours was white and gold? Nope, and thank goodness you missed it. Pretty scary stuff on me. Practically environmental pollution-level bad.
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 15:47:02 GMT -5
You are all just being racist and anti-diversity. It's your way of subjugating people and making them into stooges.
If you contacted a company about procuring insurance, and noticed Swastikas all over the walls - would that really alter the way you went about considering this purchase? I can't imagine how that would do anything more than result in a mild mental - "oh." regarding a previously-not-encountered decoration, and then proceeding on to the business at hand.
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 15, 2016 15:49:06 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs?
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 15:51:36 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs? No. That's only if those people's beliefs agree with our own. Otherwise, it's OK make up things about what they believe and to call them racist or whatever other term you think might be the most offensive.
Kind of like the college students recently. They're all for diversity - unless a person expresses an opinion they don't agree with. Then that opinion is labeled racist and the offending party needs to be removed to create a safe space.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 15, 2016 15:52:37 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs? no.
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 15, 2016 15:54:59 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs? No. That's only if those people's beliefs agree with our own. Otherwise, it's OK make up things about what they believe and to call them racist or whatever other term you think might be the most offensive.
Kind of like the college students recently. They're all for diversity - unless a person expresses an opinion they don't agree with. Then that opinion is labeled racist and the offending party needs to be removed to create a safe space.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still learning.
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Post by swamp on Feb 15, 2016 15:58:51 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs? You can believe whatever you want. But, if you are working for me, if your beliefs include thinking the Nazis were A-OK, you will shut up about those beliefs in front of the customers.
ETA: Yes, I am intolerant of those who gassed 5 million people. I'm OK with that.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 15, 2016 16:02:37 GMT -5
You don't get to spew your hatred on my commercial (or private, for that matter) property.
It's my property. I get to call the shots.
Don't like it? Quit. I'll help you carry your sh*t to your car.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 15, 2016 16:06:44 GMT -5
I know you all think you're being clever equating Nazi paraphernalia with cultural or religious dressing, but I think it's absurd. The Nazis were responsible for exterminating millions while promoting the notion of one superior way to look/one superior race (aka intolerance of people that are different). That is in no way the same as someone choosing to wear a sari, a turban, or facial hair.
...and that's all I've got to say about that subject.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 15, 2016 16:07:53 GMT -5
You don't get to spew your hatred on my commercial (or private, for that matter) property. It's my property. I get to call the shots. Don't like it? Quit. I'll help you carry your sh*t to your car. well, it WAS his property until he sold to moneymaven's company. Or however they acquired it.
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 16:07:56 GMT -5
I thought we were supposed to be tolerant of other peoples' beliefs? You can believe whatever you want. But, if you are working for me, if your beliefs include thinking the Nazis were A-OK, you will shut up about those beliefs in front of the customers.
ETA: Yes, I am intolerant of those who gassed 5 million people. I'm OK with that.
Wait, you mean as an employer you can determine that something doesn't meet your definition of professional or acceptable behavior and that you don't want this person representing your business? Are you doing this to create more corporate stooges? Isn't it racist? Don't you need a random number generator or at least a coin flip to see if you want to interview this guy? :-p
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Post by obelisk on Feb 15, 2016 16:08:17 GMT -5
I have personally seen two older ladies on two different occasions with the concentration number tattooed on the inside of their arm. The first was waiting for the US citizenship interview and she was sitting next to me. The second, she was showing me a watch in a jewelry shop. I abhor anything and everything Nazi and I am intolerant.
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Post by swamp on Feb 15, 2016 16:08:51 GMT -5
Oh shit! I just remembered I was supposed to site Godwin's Law this thread. I mean it didn't even make it past the first post before somebody brought the Nazis and Hitler into it. ::Sroo looks around for her meme:: well, to be fair, you really can't discuss swastikas without mentioning the Nazis..................
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Post by milee on Feb 15, 2016 16:15:25 GMT -5
I know you all think you're being clever equating Nazi paraphernalia with cultural or religious dressing, but I think it's absurd. The Nazis were responsible for exterminating millions while promoting the notion of one superior way to look/one superior race (aka intolerance of people that are different). That is in no way the same as someone choosing to wear a sari, a turban, or facial hair. ...and that's all I've got to say about that subject. FWIW, I don't consider Nazi paraphernalia at all equivalent to religious or cultural garb. My point is that it is not only OK for an employer to decide a behavior or decoration is not acceptable, but in some cases such a company policy is a very good thing. An employer deciding a behavior or decoration is unacceptable does not equal racism, classism or even anti-diversity as others are trying to imply in the other thread; declaring your company doesn't allow Nazi paraphernalia to be displayed is a good example of why employers have those rules and why they can be a good thing. Just because an employee considers something a lovely part of his/her cultural heritage does not mean an employer should have to accept it.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 15, 2016 16:20:24 GMT -5
You don't get to spew your hatred on my commercial (or private, for that matter) property. It's my property. I get to call the shots. Don't like it? Quit. I'll help you carry your sh*t to your car. well, it WAS his property until he sold to moneymaven's company. Or however they acquired it. Right, and, now, he gets to take his swastikas and leave. Forever.
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 15, 2016 16:24:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Nazis are kind of a special case in the tolerance department.
You're free to worship ol' Adolf Schicklegruber in the privacy of your own home of course.
I ain't gonna hire you if I know about it though. You're in the same class as Chester the Molester to me. LOL! Classic liberal. Preach for others to be tolerant, but you're above all that.
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Post by swamp on Feb 15, 2016 16:25:54 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between a guy wearing a turban and a guy who displays Nazi memorabilia.
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Post by gregintenn on Feb 15, 2016 16:32:46 GMT -5
LOL! Classic liberal. Preach for others to be tolerant, but you're above all that. I am the Decider. Most libs are.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Feb 15, 2016 16:33:33 GMT -5
Embracing diversity while condemning those who don't agree with us is most fun when it comes to parenting!
This thread can probably be very simply summed up as further proof of the golden rule: he who has the gold makes the rules.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Feb 15, 2016 16:40:32 GMT -5
Some of you wouldn't have lasted a day at the IBM of the 80s. Absolutely no personalization allowed in offices and cubicles. Desks had to be clear and empty at the end of the work day. Everyone wore navy and charcoal grey suits with white shirts and power ties. Every worker bee appeared just like every other worker bee. You couldn't have a picture of your newborn baby on your desk, never mind a display of swastikas. I don't see the problem. You become property during work hours just like the sign on the door in exchange for an income and hopefully some benefits. It's the tradeoff of capitalism, if you choose to practice capitalism.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 15, 2016 16:53:50 GMT -5
He's got to be insane. Even if he had those thoughts, he ought to be smart enough to keep them to himself. There's got to be some crazy reason he not only displayed them but told you these things. Normal people just don't.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 15, 2016 17:09:00 GMT -5
He's got to be insane. Even if he had those thoughts, he ought to be smart enough to keep them to himself. There's got to be some crazy reason he not only displayed them but told you these things. Normal people just don't. I'd be curious how the acquisition went down. This sounds like either a really elaborate way to show displeasure about losing his business or he is not right in the head. Or both!
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