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Post by swamp on Feb 26, 2020 15:01:55 GMT -5
I paid my first COBRA payment to continue DH's health insurance. $2371. Ouch. I'm looking at coverage through a municipality I do work for. That's $1417 per month. I don't know what it covers, thought.
I have also started the very long and arduous qualification and interview process for a new job. As far as I know, no one else is applying. I'm sure it won't stay that way and someone will join in. I will find out in the beginning of April if anyone else has applied.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 15:55:12 GMT -5
I have also started the very long and arduous qualification and interview process for a new job. As far as I know, no one else is applying. I'm sure it won't stay that way and someone will join in. I will find out in the beginning of April if anyone else has applied. In addition to or instead of your practice?
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Post by tcu2003 on Feb 26, 2020 16:03:51 GMT -5
I’m sorry, rukh, that just stinks.
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Post by swamp on Feb 26, 2020 20:04:11 GMT -5
I have also started the very long and arduous qualification and interview process for a new job. As far as I know, no one else is applying. I'm sure it won't stay that way and someone will join in. I will find out in the beginning of April if anyone else has applied. In addition to or instead of your practice? Instead of
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2020 20:13:09 GMT -5
swamp Oh. See your signature line? It makes me LOL because I've said many times that I've spent my whole life striving for mediocrity. I'll know I've reached my goal when I have confidence...in something
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Post by taz157 on Feb 26, 2020 20:21:26 GMT -5
In addition to or instead of your practice? Instead of Because of DH’s job situation or ready for a change?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 27, 2020 10:10:39 GMT -5
I paid my first COBRA payment to continue DH's health insurance. $2371. Ouch. I'm looking at coverage through a municipality I do work for. That's $1417 per month. I don't know what it covers, thought. I have also started the very long and arduous qualification and interview process for a new job. As far as I know, no one else is applying. I'm sure it won't stay that way and someone will join in. I will find out in the beginning of April if anyone else has applied. Wow! Sorry it’s so pricey!
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Post by swamp on Feb 27, 2020 10:55:16 GMT -5
Because of DH’s job situation or ready for a change? both. ETA: This has been in the works for several years, I have laid the groundwork and made a couple previous attempts where I was (this close) to having the job.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 27, 2020 14:03:51 GMT -5
Hope you come out #1 this time swamp!!
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 27, 2020 17:02:18 GMT -5
Just came from my exit interview. The HR girl was in shock with some of the things that go on in this department. I was honest and to the point while still being diplomatic. She asked if I would ever come back to work at the same company. I said absolutely not. I asked if she'd ever read the Glassdoor reviews for the company. She said yes and that she was aware that they made the company look awful. Too bad nothing will ever change.
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Post by Ava on Feb 28, 2020 1:19:46 GMT -5
So the last few days I've been submitting applications and I'm very discouraged. It seems that with age and work experience comes the unwelcome world of narrowing opportunities.
In order to make a comparable salary and have a realistic shot at finding a job I would need to apply to positions similar to my current one at companies in the same industry, within driving distance of where I live.
Anything else seems to be a stretch and by the salary ranges I see I would have to resign myself to a lower income if I want to break into something different. If they would have me, which is not likely. Employers seem to be very specific now on what they want in a candidate and nothing else would do. Also, salaries in my area seem low compared to what I make now, and there isn't a ton of jobs either
The simple thought of staying in the same geographic area, to do the same job I do now, starting over at a different company, and make maybe the same money, makes me want to cry.
I'm also sad that I'm in this situation just because someone decided to be disrespectful to me on an ongoing basis. It makes me feel that, as an employee and a person who needs to earn a salary, I'm in such a precarious position and I'm so vulnerable.
So far, things haven't been horrible at work. I would say I can even see a few positive outcomes from my conversation on Monday. My manager is now distant and only talks to me when needed, but he has been more respectful towards me. After all, I stood up for myself and made clear I was not going to put up with verbal abuse. And I don't regret that conversation at all, no matters what consequences it brings. I'm not angry with him, I'm just sad. I also miss our friendly relationship but I understand keeping things distant and professional is the best approach.
He's obviously not particularly happy with my presence, but not doing anything to get me out. I would say he's tolerating me. As far as where I'm going, I have no idea. I cringe at the notion of continuing to apply to positions I really don't want just because it would be relatively easy to land one.
Probably my best bet is to continue doing my job to the best of my ability, apply to positions I would like to have, even if it's unlikely I get them, and wait. Sometimes things work themselves out when you take a deep breath, don't overthink, and let the pieces fall where they may.
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Post by Peace77 on Feb 28, 2020 11:51:39 GMT -5
Looks like back to job searching for DH.
No response from possibility #2.
#1 has cancelled the on site visit for now or postponed until they make up their mind. They said that they are now considering a merger. Doesn't seem like a good employer to me.
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Post by geenamercile on Feb 28, 2020 13:03:36 GMT -5
Interview in an hour. Trying not to be nervous. I have a strong resume, my endorsements are in shortage areas. I have good experience and my last 2 yearly reviews are strong and they have copies of them. And while I didn't see the recommendations that my references filled put I have faith they are strong to. So over all on paper I look pretty good. Now I just have to look good in person. I al willing to compromise and step in a gen ed role and just sped so that should help too. Deep breath.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 28, 2020 13:16:11 GMT -5
Good luck!
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 28, 2020 13:51:29 GMT -5
So the last few days I've been submitting applications and I'm very discouraged. It seems that with age and work experience comes the unwelcome world of narrowing opportunities. In order to make a comparable salary and have a realistic shot at finding a job I would need to apply to positions similar to my current one at companies in the same industry, within driving distance of where I live. Anything else seems to be a stretch and by the salary ranges I see I would have to resign myself to a lower income if I want to break into something different. If they would have me, which is not likely. Employers seem to be very specific now on what they want in a candidate and nothing else would do. Also, salaries in my area seem low compared to what I make now, and there isn't a ton of jobs either The simple thought of staying in the same geographic area, to do the same job I do now, starting over at a different company, and make maybe the same money, makes me want to cry. I'm also sad that I'm in this situation just because someone decided to be disrespectful to me on an ongoing basis. It makes me feel that, as an employee and a person who needs to earn a salary, I'm in such a precarious position and I'm so vulnerable. So far, things haven't been horrible at work. I would say I can even see a few positive outcomes from my conversation on Monday. My manager is now distant and only talks to me when needed, but he has been more respectful towards me. After all, I stood up for myself and made clear I was not going to put up with verbal abuse. And I don't regret that conversation at all, no matters what consequences it brings. I'm not angry with him, I'm just sad. I also miss our friendly relationship but I understand keeping things distant and professional is the best approach. He's obviously not particularly happy with my presence, but not doing anything to get me out. I would say he's tolerating me. As far as where I'm going, I have no idea. I cringe at the notion of continuing to apply to positions I really don't want just because it would be relatively easy to land one. Probably my best bet is to continue doing my job to the best of my ability, apply to positions I would like to have, even if it's unlikely I get them, and wait. Sometimes things work themselves out when you take a deep breath, don't overthink, and let the pieces fall where they may. Maybe time to think about Miami again? Your a certified CPA now! Maybe there are more opportunities there for you now?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 28, 2020 14:19:43 GMT -5
I am with you there Ava! I have incredibly valuable skills - for a really really short list of potential employers - employers who may or may not have a job opening. And who may or may not be local....
I am off work today - to focus on RI client #2 analysis.......but......
Started the day with LinkedIn and Glassdoor for the morning coffee routine. Unexpectedly - I did get a lead on a potential job that is ~90% of a fit for me. Easy commute to boot! So - spent all morning researching, writing cover letter, proofing C.V.
I have good feelings about this one!!
It wouldn't be a perfect fit - the nocaller after suggesting alternate dates for the 2nd interview would have been perfect, but - oh well!
Not sure of the salary on this one, phd not required so - yeah - I haven't pursued any jobs that didn't require a phd - but it might be that they haven't been successful in requiring that. Master's is required, along with research experience so kind of close. Worried what that distinction in requirements may mean for salary.
But I think I should pursue and find out the particulars. Might turn out really good - you never know!
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 28, 2020 14:30:16 GMT -5
oof - terrible glassdoor reviews. Like. really terrible - multiple toxic environment comments.
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Post by Ava on Feb 29, 2020 16:25:06 GMT -5
oof - terrible glassdoor reviews. Like. really terrible - multiple toxic environment comments. That's bad. I'm very sorry you are going through this. It's a very difficult situation, particularly for us people of a certain age. I will keep checking here until I see a post that you have found a fantastic new opportunity.
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Post by Ava on Feb 29, 2020 16:51:13 GMT -5
As for me, I'm interrupting my job search.
A couple of posters suggested looking into Miami jobs again. I have done it on and off for years. There's no interest in a long-distance candidate. Miami has a growing population and employers there have zero need to reach out to someone half across the country when they have what they need right there. It's not going to happen. That's why I say if I want to have a realistic shot at another job I need to apply to local companies in the same industry I'm in.
Anything long distance or in a new industry is pie in the sky at this point of my work history and age. Even if I were willing to go down in salary I don't fit the profile companies are looking for. I see entry level positions in public accounting or internal audit requiring "minimum of 3.0 GPA" and "recent internship experience". They are looking for 20 somethings fresh from school. There's no chance they would want me or that I would want that sort of work environment now.
I keep showing up to work every day and performing my job correctly. My manager doesn't communicate with me unless absolutely necessary. I'm going to keep chugging along. If he wants to get rid of me he'll have to either find a cause to fire me and pay compensation, or help me ease into another position I would want at the company. Why would upend my whole life to accommodate his behavior?
I have plans, my plans are on track. I will be able to move out of this area in 2027. He's not going to interfere with my plans. It's not a work performance related issue. So I'm not giving up all my perks for him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2020 17:09:21 GMT -5
So the last few days I've been submitting applications and I'm very discouraged. It seems that with age and work experience comes the unwelcome world of narrowing opportunities. In order to make a comparable salary and have a realistic shot at finding a job I would need to apply to positions similar to my current one at companies in the same industry, within driving distance of where I live. Anything else seems to be a stretch and by the salary ranges I see I would have to resign myself to a lower income if I want to break into something different. If they would have me, which is not likely. Employers seem to be very specific now on what they want in a candidate and nothing else would do. Also, salaries in my area seem low compared to what I make now, and there isn't a ton of jobs either The simple thought of staying in the same geographic area, to do the same job I do now, starting over at a different company, and make maybe the same money, makes me want to cry. I'm also sad that I'm in this situation just because someone decided to be disrespectful to me on an ongoing basis. It makes me feel that, as an employee and a person who needs to earn a salary, I'm in such a precarious position and I'm so vulnerable. So far, things haven't been horrible at work. I would say I can even see a few positive outcomes from my conversation on Monday. My manager is now distant and only talks to me when needed, but he has been more respectful towards me. After all, I stood up for myself and made clear I was not going to put up with verbal abuse. And I don't regret that conversation at all, no matters what consequences it brings. I'm not angry with him, I'm just sad. I also miss our friendly relationship but I understand keeping things distant and professional is the best approach. He's obviously not particularly happy with my presence, but not doing anything to get me out. I would say he's tolerating me. As far as where I'm going, I have no idea. I cringe at the notion of continuing to apply to positions I really don't want just because it would be relatively easy to land one. Probably my best bet is to continue doing my job to the best of my ability, apply to positions I would like to have, even if it's unlikely I get them, and wait. Sometimes things work themselves out when you take a deep breath, don't overthink, and let the pieces fall where they may. What kind of turnover, promotion, etc. goes on at your job? I have learned that principals (teaching) and managers (retail) come and go. Don't get too attached to one, and don't get too discouraged if you don't particularly respond to one. Just do your job to the best of your ability, and the rest often works itself out.
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Post by Ava on Feb 29, 2020 17:12:33 GMT -5
Turnover is very low. I've been with the same manager for 6 years and the same team members for about 30 months.
The plan is to continue to do my job the best I can, and if he wants me out he'll have to find a way. Why would that be on me?
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Post by flutterby on Mar 1, 2020 8:23:37 GMT -5
Ava, I feel for you on the negative work environment, especially since it's such a change from how it was previously.
I work for what I'd describe as a toxic manager. But she's been like that from day 1, so I've long since gotten over being surprised by her behavior. I feel like I'm under a dark cloud all day just waiting to be berated and scolded like a not very bright 5 year old. It's exhausting. The only "positive" is she's like that to everyone under her, so I don't feel singled out in that regard. She's just a truly awful human being who never should have been put in charge of supervising anyone. I've survived 2.5 years here, but it's wearing on me.
I have a job interview Thursday for a next level position at another agency. I applied for a lateral position at the same agency, so I'm hoping they'll combine the 2 into 1 interview (assuming they want me to interview for the lateral position too). I'm not holding my breath. The last few interviews I've done, the agencies ended up hiring internally someone they already knew would get the position, so it was a complete waste of my time and effort. I expect this to be the same. Disheartening to say the least.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Mar 1, 2020 12:40:57 GMT -5
I keep showing up to work every day and performing my job correctly. My manager doesn't communicate with me unless absolutely necessary. I'm going to keep chugging along. If he wants to get rid of me he'll have to either find a cause to fire me and pay compensation, or help me ease into another position I would want at the company. Why would upend my whole life to accommodate his behavior? I have plans, my plans are on track. I will be able to move out of this area in 2027. He's not going to interfere with my plans. It's not a work performance related issue. So I'm not giving up all my perks for him. Hi Ava, I'm sorry you're having a rough go of it right now. I'm just going to add to the concept that from what you have portrayed, there is no discrimination. I would not take that approach if you choose to go further with this boss. A couple of other thoughts just to help you keep a balanced perspective: There is no law against being an asshole. Your boss can be an asshole and there's nothing you can do about it. If his superiors choose to redirect his behavior, that's fine; however, it's not up to you. There is a difference between being an asshole and actual harassment. You believing otherwise is only doing yourself a disservice.
Also, does he have to find cause to get rid of you? Are you in a union? Are you in an at-will state? Please don't make assumptions.
And last, be reflective: there is no one who is perfect at their job. Is there something you can do to improve? Is there a valid point (though he's being obnoxious about it) to anything he's saying about your job performance?
I understand why you're upset. I'm not saying you deserve to be yelled at. I just want you to realize that there is middle ground from where you've positioned yourself.
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2020 13:13:24 GMT -5
I keep showing up to work every day and performing my job correctly. My manager doesn't communicate with me unless absolutely necessary. I'm going to keep chugging along. If he wants to get rid of me he'll have to either find a cause to fire me and pay compensation, or help me ease into another position I would want at the company. Why would upend my whole life to accommodate his behavior? I have plans, my plans are on track. I will be able to move out of this area in 2027. He's not going to interfere with my plans. It's not a work performance related issue. So I'm not giving up all my perks for him. Hi Ava, I'm sorry you're having a rough go of it right now. I'm just going to add to the concept that from what you have portrayed, there is no discrimination. I would not take that approach if you choose to go further with this boss. A couple of other thoughts just to help you keep a balanced perspective: There is no law against being an asshole. Your boss can be an asshole and there's nothing you can do about it. If his superiors choose to redirect his behavior, that's fine; however, it's not up to you. There is a difference between being an asshole and actual harassment. You believing otherwise is only doing yourself a disservice.
Also, does he have to find cause to get rid of you? Are you in a union? Are you in an at-will state? Please don't make assumptions.
And last, be reflective: there is no one who is perfect at their job. Is there something you can do to improve? Is there a valid point (though he's being obnoxious about it) to anything he's saying about your job performance?
I understand why you're upset. I'm not saying you deserve to be yelled at. I just want you to realize that there is middle ground from where you've positioned yourself. Thanks for the input. I'm working on assimilating what happened. I am the last person who would want to put a formal complaint. Hopefully it will never come to that.
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Post by Ava on Mar 1, 2020 13:15:50 GMT -5
Ava, I feel for you on the negative work environment, especially since it's such a change from how it was previously.
I work for what I'd describe as a toxic manager. But she's been like that from day 1, so I've long since gotten over being surprised by her behavior. I feel like I'm under a dark cloud all day just waiting to be berated and scolded like a not very bright 5 year old. It's exhausting. The only "positive" is she's like that to everyone under her, so I don't feel singled out in that regard. She's just a truly awful human being who never should have been put in charge of supervising anyone. I've survived 2.5 years here, but it's wearing on me.
I have a job interview Thursday for a next level position at another agency. I applied for a lateral position at the same agency, so I'm hoping they'll combine the 2 into 1 interview (assuming they want me to interview for the lateral position too). I'm not holding my breath. The last few interviews I've done, the agencies ended up hiring internally someone they already knew would get the position, so it was a complete waste of my time and effort. I expect this to be the same. Disheartening to say the least. Thanks, and good luck with the job search. From what you describe, it sounds awful and I understand why you would want to leave. I have seen posts in the past where you are applying to other agencies or other gov. jobs? Have you ever considered a private-sector job? Maybe that would give you more options.
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Post by flutterby on Mar 1, 2020 20:42:36 GMT -5
Thanks, and good luck with the job search. From what you describe, it sounds awful and I understand why you would want to leave. I have seen posts in the past where you are applying to other agencies or other gov. jobs? Have you ever considered a private-sector job? Maybe that would give you more options.
Per the bolded, I think about this all the time - like almost daily. But 1) I won't be fully vested until June, so I don't want to leave before then. 2) I have a nice pool of sick/annual leave built up - I don't really want to start over. 3) I've really only done gov't accounting since I got my degree. I like it. I'm good at it. I don't know how I'd do with another type of accounting (and like you, I'm not willing to drop down to entry level positions and pay to shift direction now).
So yeah, it's definitely in my thoughts, but I'm just not quite willing to explore that option any further yet. I very well might though if something doesn't change in the next six months or so.
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2020 9:04:29 GMT -5
DH started his new job today.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Mar 2, 2020 9:17:35 GMT -5
DH started his new job today. Is this the house husband job or the 'fill in as needed' pharmacy job?
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2020 9:41:38 GMT -5
DH started his new job today. Is this the house husband job or the 'fill in as needed' pharmacy job? fill in as needed as the pharmacy. He's been my house bitch for about a week now. He's doing a bang up job.
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Post by swamp on Mar 2, 2020 13:26:30 GMT -5
His first day went well. He liked it fine. He prefers clinical pharmacy over retail, but it's acceptable.
They also need him more hours. There are 2 retirements because of illness, the owner and the second in command.
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