The Job Hunt Thread

[raeoflyte]

Askananager.org us doing a survey of pto. Not official, but may be helpful when complete.

[tcu2003]

The max PTO days at my employer is 20 days, and it took me probably 15 years to get that. We do also get 4 days of STO per year, plus 2 floating holidays (in addition to 6 fixed holidays), so that helps, but my PTO is generally on par with my colleagues at other companies. We can carry over some time (amount increases with tenure and job title), so that helps for employees that want or need to take longer chunks of time off.

We can also flex time within the same pay period, so I rarely use PTO for a 3 (and sometimes 4) day weekend, saving my PTO for longer trips.

I think what the smaller company offers for PTO is likely in line with what you’d get elsewhere, so I wouldn’t let deter you.

[tcu2003]

Apr 9, 2024 20:37:24 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Apr 8, 2024 21:29:07 GMT -5 Ava said:

I know many of you think I'm at risk of becoming unemployed.
But it doesn't look like it.
They even approved my vacation for December-January, and they keep assigning me cases.

My friend that got laid off.  They were encouraged to make project proposal pitches to our unit while management was moving to get my colleague fired.

You don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

Agreed. I’ve absolutely seen PTO approved for people that weren’t going to be there when said PTO was scheduled. Employers won’t/can’t tip their hands if they’re working on disciplinary action, or if there will be layoffs.

[taz157]

Apr 19, 2024 19:16:30 GMT -5 tcu2003 said:

Apr 9, 2024 20:37:24 GMT -5 giramomma said:

My friend that got laid off.  They were encouraged to make project proposal pitches to our unit while management was moving to get my colleague fired.

You don't know what goes on behind closed doors.

Agreed. I’ve absolutely seen PTO approved for people that weren’t going to be there when said PTO was scheduled. Employers won’t/can’t tip their hands if they’re working on disciplinary action, or if there will be layoffs.

Not to be a Debbie downer but Yeah That to both.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Apr 10, 2024 11:00:49 GMT -5 azucena said:

I'll echo Daisy and say set up a spreadsheet to project out yr by yr the two salaries side by side along with the different retirement matches and also project raises at 2%. The overall #s may be closer than you think in 5 yrs or so.

You might be able to ask for unpaid leave for an add'l week of vacation. But I agree with others that you won't find your current PTO bucket. Meanwhile, PTO total doesn't matter if you're so stressed daily.

good idea here too!

Ava - how far away is retirement? If 2-3 years, then maybe the higher pay/less days off could work for you in that time frame. More than 3 and I'd say it would be a hardship you didn't want to take on. Do you take the month to Uruguay every year, or only every other year?

But if you feel the current job is not as stressful as it was when you started the job search - that is good and does allow you to be more picky! 

And if you woud get 6 months severance if let go....then dang! yeah - be as picky as you want to be!!

[Rukh O'Rorke]

On the other side of the spectrum......

I think employers need to hear - thanks, sounds like a great position but the PTO level is a deal breaker.

The US is ridiculously behind most developed countries in this and we should be a leader, not a laggard, imho!

I'm pushing for more generous leave at my employer - which is already pretty good but not spectacular. I started with 16 vacay, 2 floating holidays, 10 sick, and we get now get 11 holidays after adding in Juneteenth. (plus the usual summer ones, plus MLK, and 2 each for thx, xmas, and NY. Only place I ever worked gave NYE as an extra holiday). We also frequently get a 3rd day added on around xmas. Like if xmas eve/xmas is tues/wed, we get the monday off, or wed/thursday we get the friday off. But you have to wait for 7 years to get to the next level of 21 vacay days. When I got my promotion, I negotiated 5 extra vacay days per year). Then it is 14 years to get to the 26 vacay days, and that is the cap.

What I am advocating for is that we shorten the time for the step ups. Like 4/5 years and 8/10. I think particularly for younger workers, if you are at a place for 2-3 years and wondering if you should make a move or stick around that an extra week of vacay at 7 years isn't going pull you in, but if it is only a year or two away at that point, it might. Flip side is once you make it to 5 years it isn't likely to be the extra 5 days two years down the road that is keeping you.


I have also advocated that on top of that we just close the place the week between xmas and new years. Would be a huge benefit and perk for everyone, a big draw in recruitment, and would only be 2 or 3 days extra per year (depending on when dates fall, and if we would have gotten the bonus 3rrd day during xmas) and the reality is that very little meaningful work gets done that week anyway!

I've said it before and I'll say it again! 6 weeks standard for vacay in the US would save us billions and billions of dollars in healthcare, incarcerations, I just can't even imagine an area of the US that would not benefit from this.

[giramomma]

Actually, I'd advocate for having the proper number of employees before more PTO.

I've always gotten like 25 days of vacation/personal time a year. The past few years, it has been VERY hard to come close to using it up.

My team has been understaffed since 2017. 

I can demonstrate that I'm doing about 4x more the work than I did when I started, in terms of getting products out that people will buy. It's pretty easy to just count up.

Plus there's extra tasks: contributing to process changes (including creating the documentation), participating in training, presenting, doing the work to meet performance evaluations, because of course exactly 0 of my performance evaluation goals are tied to the 4x the work I used to do when I started. 

[Ava]

Update.

The recruiter submitted my resume. The company took about a week to mull it over.
Someone from there took a look at my LinkedIn profile. I need to update it and I haven't. At least it has a current photograp in which I look put together.

Anyway, they decided they didn't want to interview me. The reason was I don't have experience in one area that wasn't even mentioned in the job description.
Very strange. Even the recruiter sounded surprised because he didn't know they wanted vast experience in that area.

Finding a job is not easy.

Things have happened at work. Manager is back on full hostility.
First reasonable job that crosses my path, I'm all in

[Ava]

Well, being realistic, most jobs aren't adequately staffed and don't offer good PTO.

[Ava]

Apr 20, 2024 11:09:00 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Apr 10, 2024 11:00:49 GMT -5 azucena said:

I'll echo Daisy and say set up a spreadsheet to project out yr by yr the two salaries side by side along with the different retirement matches and also project raises at 2%. The overall #s may be closer than you think in 5 yrs or so.

You might be able to ask for unpaid leave for an add'l week of vacation. But I agree with others that you won't find your current PTO bucket. Meanwhile, PTO total doesn't matter if you're so stressed daily.

good idea here too!

Ava - how far away is retirement? If 2-3 years, then maybe the higher pay/less days off could work for you in that time frame. More than 3 and I'd say it would be a hardship you didn't want to take on. Do you take the month to Uruguay every year, or only every other year?

But if you feel the current job is not as stressful as it was when you started the job search - that is good and does allow you to be more picky! 

And if you woud get 6 months severance if let go....then dang! yeah - be as picky as you want to be!!

I go to Uruguay every year.
Retirement date depends on what sort of vacation time I can take once I have a new job. I'm too young to retire right now. I'm 51

[Ava]

And I don't mind if I have some unpaid time to travel.
Given price and distance, I need 3 weeks to visit.
If I only can get 2 weeks I'll retire earlier.
I feel the earliest I can realistically retire is 54.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Apr 20, 2024 14:27:36 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Actually, I'd advocate for having the proper number of employees before more PTO.

I've always gotten like 25 days of vacation/personal time a year. 

Because you already have 5 weeks of vacation, so yeah. for those with only 2 or 3 weeks, its a different world.

[Ava]

The job I didn't get the interview with offered 18 days of PTO a year.

PTO is not vacation. It's everything in one, vacations, personal days and sick days. So how many vacation days do you really have?
At least they offered a hybrid schedule, which gives you more flexibility.

I don't know. It seems so inadequate.

But considering my situation has deteriorated again, the most important feature for me is a sane workplace where I'm treated with respect.

[giramomma]

Apr 20, 2024 19:18:25 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Apr 20, 2024 14:27:36 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Actually, I'd advocate for having the proper number of employees before more PTO.

I've always gotten like 25 days of vacation/personal time a year. 

Because you already have 5 weeks of vacation, so yeah. for those with only 2 or 3 weeks, its a different world.

I totally get that. My son gets 0 vacation days a year, working full time as an entry level mechanic. He'll get one year of vacation after he's been on the job a year. 

When I first started working at my place of employment, I also got no PTO.  No sick leave, vacation, no holiday pay. My benefit was my paycheck and paying into the retirement system. I did have access to health insurance. But, DH's grad health insurance was the better option, financially.

I didn't get all that PTO until I got my current job classification. And It also was a choice to forgo pay for benefits. I know we are so lucky to be able to make that choice. And the PTO sounds good, until you don't get paid maternity leave, and have to make some tough decisions.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Apr 20, 2024 23:25:51 GMT -5 Ava said:

The job I didn't get the interview with offered 18 days of PTO a year.

PTO is not vacation. It's everything in one, vacations, personal days and sick days. So how many vacation days do you really have?
At least they offered a hybrid schedule, which gives you more flexibility.

I don't know. It seems so inadequate.

But considering my situation has deteriorated again, the most important feature for me is a sane workplace where I'm treated with respect.

It's a tough situation for sure.

Have you considered lower pay non-profits? Maybe some kind of health care association. A good one with size enough for their own department (I think you're in something related to finance?). They usually have a good benefits package with more vacay days than others.

Whatever you decide, wishing you the best outcome you can get. Life is frequently 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Not sure what your EF is, but maybe try to devote a few extra dollars there just in case the unexpected occurs at work.

My last CEO hated me, for some bizarre reason i don't even know. blocked my promotion for a year. I was half hoping for a nice severance package! (I had a great boss that went to bat for me time and again and finally got it through.)

He is gone now! So no real hopes of a nice package to ease into retirement, lol! But if you are sure you'd get 6 months of severance, that would take a lot of pressure off to my mind. 

Good luck!

[Ava]

Apr 21, 2024 10:39:28 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Apr 20, 2024 23:25:51 GMT -5 Ava said:

The job I didn't get the interview with offered 18 days of PTO a year.

PTO is not vacation. It's everything in one, vacations, personal days and sick days. So how many vacation days do you really have?
At least they offered a hybrid schedule, which gives you more flexibility.

I don't know. It seems so inadequate.

But considering my situation has deteriorated again, the most important feature for me is a sane workplace where I'm treated with respect.

It's a tough situation for sure.

Have you considered lower pay non-profits? Maybe some kind of health care association. A good one with size enough for their own department (I think you're in something related to finance?). They usually have a good benefits package with more vacay days than others.

Whatever you decide, wishing you the best outcome you can get. Life is frequently 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Not sure what your EF is, but maybe try to devote a few extra dollars there just in case the unexpected occurs at work.

My last CEO hated me, for some bizarre reason i don't even know. blocked my promotion for a year. I was half hoping for a nice severance package! (I had a great boss that went to bat for me time and again and finally got it through.)

He is gone now! So no real hopes of a nice package to ease into retirement, lol! But if you are sure you'd get 6 months of severance, that would take a lot of pressure off to my mind. 

Good luck!

Thank you!

It's tough for sure.
I've been applying everywhere. Anything I'm qualified for.
I would take a lower paying job at this point. I would take a job with less PTO although I would try to get some extra days without pay to travel.

The possibility of being let go doesn't scare me. They give severance and in CT you get 26 weeks for unemployment.

The hardest part is going through the week and feeling inadequate and as if I'm walking through a minefield.

My hope is to get out of this situation soon.

One thing working against me is that CT is a small state with low population and there aren't many jobs.
I'm open to moving but I don't have a support system anywhere in the U.S.
I've only been looking for a few weeks. So I hope something pops up nearby.

[Peace77]

Apr 21, 2024 9:02:58 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Apr 20, 2024 19:18:25 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

Because you already have 5 weeks of vacation, so yeah. for those with only 2 or 3 weeks, its a different world.

I totally get that. My son gets 0 vacation days a year, working full time as an entry level mechanic. He'll get one year of vacation after he's been on the job a year. 

When I first started working at my place of employment, I also got no PTO.  No sick leave, vacation, no holiday pay. My benefit was my paycheck and paying into the retirement system. I did have access to health insurance. But, DH's grad health insurance was the better option, financially.

I didn't get all that PTO until I got my current job classification. And It also was a choice to forgo pay for benefits. I know we are so lucky to be able to make that choice. And the PTO sounds good, until you don't get paid maternity leave, and have to make some tough decisions.

One year of vacation!!
Wow!
Did you mean a week?

[Knee Deep in Water Chloe]

Apr 20, 2024 23:25:51 GMT -5 Ava said:

The job I didn't get the interview with offered 18 days of PTO a year.

PTO is not vacation. It's everything in one, vacations, personal days and sick days. So how many vacation days do you really have?
At least they offered a hybrid schedule, which gives you more flexibility.

I don't know. It seems so inadequate.

But considering my situation has deteriorated again, the most important feature for me is a sane workplace where I'm treated with respect.

What has happened to deteriorate the situation?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Apr 21, 2024 11:15:10 GMT -5 Ava said:

Apr 21, 2024 10:39:28 GMT -5 Rukh O'Rorke said:

It's a tough situation for sure.

Have you considered lower pay non-profits? Maybe some kind of health care association. A good one with size enough for their own department (I think you're in something related to finance?). They usually have a good benefits package with more vacay days than others.

Whatever you decide, wishing you the best outcome you can get. Life is frequently 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. Not sure what your EF is, but maybe try to devote a few extra dollars there just in case the unexpected occurs at work.

My last CEO hated me, for some bizarre reason i don't even know. blocked my promotion for a year. I was half hoping for a nice severance package! (I had a great boss that went to bat for me time and again and finally got it through.)

He is gone now! So no real hopes of a nice package to ease into retirement, lol! But if you are sure you'd get 6 months of severance, that would take a lot of pressure off to my mind. 

Good luck!

Thank you!

It's tough for sure.
I've been applying everywhere. Anything I'm qualified for.
I would take a lower paying job at this point. I would take a job with less PTO although I would try to get some extra days without pay to travel.

The possibility of being let go doesn't scare me. They give severance and in CT you get 26 weeks for unemployment.

The hardest part is going through the week and feeling inadequate and as if I'm walking through a minefield.

My hope is to get out of this situation soon.

One thing working against me is that CT is a small state with low population and there aren't many jobs.
I'm open to moving but I don't have a support system anywhere in the U.S.
I've only been looking for a few weeks. So I hope something pops up nearby.

You need to double check the employment laws in CT.   If they fire you for cause they can contest unemployment.  I know in Iowa and Nebraska if you are fired for cause you do not qualify and can't try to reapply for 3-4 months after the intital rejection.

I would also double check your severance policy.

To be perfectly honest I don't think you'd be laid off, you will end up being fired for cause.  That is a commonly used tactic to get out of paying for UE even if it isn't warranted.  Given what you have posted here you have admitted that you have had major performance issues in recent history.  That gives them grounds to fire you for cause and contest UE.  You would have to try to appeal and burden of proof would be on you to show you weren't a poor performer.

I would be taking stock of your savings and your bills to make sure you can survive without UE.  Just because nothing has happened yet doesn't mean they aren't building a case behind the scenes.  They aren't going to tell people they are being laid off or fired because that then gives people the chance to sabotage their work before they leave.   It will just . . . happen.

[taz157]

Apr 23, 2024 10:06:39 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Apr 21, 2024 11:15:10 GMT -5 Ava said:

Thank you!

It's tough for sure.
I've been applying everywhere. Anything I'm qualified for.
I would take a lower paying job at this point. I would take a job with less PTO although I would try to get some extra days without pay to travel.

The possibility of being let go doesn't scare me. They give severance and in CT you get 26 weeks for unemployment.

The hardest part is going through the week and feeling inadequate and as if I'm walking through a minefield.

My hope is to get out of this situation soon.

One thing working against me is that CT is a small state with low population and there aren't many jobs.
I'm open to moving but I don't have a support system anywhere in the U.S.
I've only been looking for a few weeks. So I hope something pops up nearby.

You need to double check the employment laws in CT.   If they fire you for cause they can contest unemployment.  I know in Iowa and Nebraska if you are fired for cause you do not qualify and can't try to reapply for 3-4 months after the intital rejection.

I would also double check your severance policy.

To be perfectly honest I don't think you'd be laid off, you will end up being fired for cause.  That is a commonly used tactic to get out of paying for UE even if it isn't warranted.  Given what you have posted here you have admitted that you have had major performance issues in recent history.  That gives them grounds to fire you for cause and contest UE.  You would have to try to appeal and burden of proof would be on you to show you weren't a poor performer.

I would be taking stock of your savings and your bills to make sure you can survive without UE.  Just because nothing has happened yet doesn't mean they aren't building a case behind the scenes.  They aren't going to tell people they are being laid off or fired because that then gives people the chance to sabotage their work before they leave.   It will just . . . happen.

I believe my state won’t pay unemployment if you are fired for cause either. Also, my state won’t pay unemployment until any severance pay runs out too. In the past year, there’s been some firings that have happened. Some probably had an idea but some came out of left field. You never know what goes on behind the scenes…

[seriousthistime]

Firing for cause generally means willful misconduct.  

In CT, the maximum benefit is $721. 

Unemployment benefits are taxed by the feds and the state of CT.  So the $721 is net. 

During the time period you have collected severance pay, you are not able to collect unemployment.  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Apr 23, 2024 10:26:52 GMT -5 seriousthistime said:

Firing for cause generally means willful misconduct.  

In CT, the maximum benefit is $721. 

Unemployment benefits are taxed by the feds and the state of CT.  So the $721 is net. 

During the time period you have collected severance pay, you are not able to collect unemployment.  

I don't think it does at least not in Iowa or Nebraska.  As long as they can prove they fired you and not that you were laid off you are ineligible.  There is a 3-4 month waiting period till you can try again.   
You can't get it if you quit either.

It is up to you to appeal and the burden of proof is on you to show it wasn't for cause.  It's a pretty common tactic around here to get out of paying it.

Sometimes if you are lucky your employer will graciously change it to laid off so you can collect to get you to go away quietly.  Then not all employers bother to contest.

You don't know till you apply and get either approval or rejection.

Nebraska is the second toughest state to collect UE in so that might be a big part of it.

I don't count on UE at all it is such a PITA for a pittance.  Especially after both state taxes are taken out of it.   I'll go back to waiting tables if I am laid off.  People are desperate for servers around here.  I can make more in tips than I would on UE

[daisylu]

I live in an "at will" state. Your employer can terminate you whenever they desire and for no real reason. You can file for UE, but if the company contests it you are SOL - unless you can prove that the firing violated a law (like discrimination, ageism, etc).

Company DFIL worked at for over 30 years closed their doors in 2016. His salary was @ $70,000/year. He had to jump through so many hoops for less than $300/week in UE benefits. He could have taken a job at McDonald's for that.

[Ava]

To clarify, I'm not trying to get laid off.
I want to find a better job and move on.

Unemployment would be a worst case scenario which I hope doesn't happen.
And also to clarify, my only fault at current job would be not being up to managers new standards. Is that enough to fire for cause? I don't know. I work the hours I'm supposed to work and the best performance I'm able to.

I've seen an internal job I'm pretty sure I qualify for. A friend of mine suggested I reach out to the manager directly and ask him if I can call him to talk about the job posting. I don't know. Some managers may like it but others may feel they are put on the spot.
I think I'm going to submit an application through the system.
I'm aware they may not consider me because current manager is not satisfied. But, hey, you never know and it costs me nothing to apply

[daisylu]

Apr 23, 2024 12:32:42 GMT -5 Ava said:

To clarify, I'm not trying to get laid off.
I want to find a better job and move on.

Unemployment would be a worst case scenario which I hope doesn't happen.
And also to clarify, my only fault at current job would be not being up to managers new standards. Is that enough to fire for cause? I don't know. I work the hours I'm supposed to work and the best performance I'm able to.

I've seen an internal job I'm pretty sure I qualify for. A friend of mine suggested I reach out to the manager directly and ask him if I can call him to talk about the job posting. I don't know. Some managers may like it but others may feel they are put on the spot.
I think I'm going to submit an application through the system.
I'm aware they may not consider me because current manager is not satisfied. But, hey, you never know and it costs me nothing to apply

Yes. I have seen it in use with a coworker whose manager did not like her - it is a tool used to establish cause. link

A PIP is a formal document to let an employee know about recurring performance issues. The performance improvement plan (PIP) indicates that the employee is not meeting expectations for their job, and without an improvement, they'll be let go.

Additionally, managers talk to each other. I do not think that will go well for you, but give it a go.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Apr 23, 2024 12:32:42 GMT -5 Ava said:

To clarify, I'm not trying to get laid off.
I want to find a better job and move on.

Unemployment would be a worst case scenario which I hope doesn't happen.
And also to clarify, my only fault at current job would be not being up to managers new standards. Is that enough to fire for cause? I don't know. I work the hours I'm supposed to work and the best performance I'm able to.

I've seen an internal job I'm pretty sure I qualify for. A friend of mine suggested I reach out to the manager directly and ask him if I can call him to talk about the job posting. I don't know. Some managers may like it but others may feel they are put on the spot.
I think I'm going to submit an application through the system.
I'm aware they may not consider me because current manager is not satisfied. But, hey, you never know and it costs me nothing to apply

Yes.  Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with them the standards the manager have set for you are the standards you must meet.  If you cannot meet those standards they have grounds to fire you.

In all likelihood these are standards that are set by your manager's higher ups.  What was fine before you were bought out is not fine now apparently.  

In at will state, which most states are, they can fire you for anything so long as it not against federal discrimination laws and even then that can be incredibly hard for you to prove happened.  Being unable to perform to company expectations is a cause for firing you.

Just working your hours is the bare minimum Ava.  It is clear that what you think is your best performance is not what the company expects of a best performer.   One manager may be a personality clash.  Two different managers having the same issues with your performance there is now a pattern.

I am not saying this to be mean.  I am saying this because I think you need to do some soul searching. All these issues can come back to haunt you in future jobs if you haven't figured out the root cause and addressed it.   It could be very well that this company is just not a good fit but then you need to really think about what IS a good fit for you skill, talent, ability wise and focus on jobs that meet that criteria.  

Keep in mind you are competing for jobs against all these people you are complaining get promoted over you.   And you're already self limiting your pool yourself due to vacation time.    Just showing up to work isn't going to cut it in this day and age.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Decided to look at the company I was entertaining about a month ago. They are poaching people from our lab left and right.

There is a microbiology lab manager job. I qualify for it based on the description.

Managing a lab has always been my goal but impossible without a PhD at the university.

Pretty much impossible at my current job too. There are only four seniors, one manager and one director. Allin their position for a decade or more.

So screw it I applied. Worst case I'm not qualified.

I'm willing to change my commute to move up the ladder, especially that far up.

We'll see. There is an RD scientist I'm going to look at too. My coworker who is interviewing for another position told me about that one.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

After being told two weeks ago Ive improved significantly and bern doing a great jobI am back to being a terrible employee and now its Ive been one since I was hired.

My manager's manager who I had a 1 on 1 with 25 minutes later said NONE of this.

I've never been written up or anything.

I don't get the 180s my manager does. I can't evaluate my performance because the feedback keeps violently swinging from one end to the other.

It's review time and I know at least three of us have gotten slapped upside the head.

One almost quit. The other was shaking after her meeting.

So either that's it or they decided the solution to having lost yet another employee is to use sticks to keep us in line. You suck but we're putting up with you. Nobody else will so you'll end up staying.

My work BF thinks I should talk to manager manager and or HR. Try one more attempt to course correct.

I said at 40 I'm done. It's not my job to fix the lab. At will works both ways.

The company I applied with yesterday reached out. IDK if it's about the particular position or they are overall interested in me. They want to chat tomorrow.

I told DH the two positions I'm interested in would be no trainers. They are both significant steps up the ladder title wise and probably money wise.

Both are worth me reconsidering my commute.

And life is too short to keep dealing with manager's who constantly cut people down.

I know I'm probably stereotyping here but why does it tend to lean towards women managers tearing down other female employees?

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

And someone else is interviewing with said company too from my lab.

He's had it because they keep telling him . he's not good enough to promote too

And at the moment there are no plans to replace the chemist that left, open the associate position already open and no intention of replacing D when he leaves in June.

So he's had enough as well and is looking to get out as well.

I'm just so mad and frustrated. Am I so delusional that I can't recognize I'm a bad employee who is creating undue hardship on her coworkers?

Meanwhile the person who very obviously IS doing exactly that they've bent over to accommodate pulling two other people in to do his tests and giving him a whole extra week to do certain samples. Something NONE of the rest of us get.

Five days period no matter how big your workload. No matter how many submissions I am expected to turn them around and have samples ready same day.

He gets 10 fucking days because he just cannot handle more than 10 samples at once.

I'm not kidding I was in that meeting.

Several of have had to do close to 60 samples in 5 days no exceptions. I got chewed out for receiving a submission a day late because I was begged to by the analyst to let them get caught up. I was told no exceptions.

Uh huh.

He also had 12 corrective actions open and constantly messes up his work. All his samples are overdue.

But I'm destroying tye lab because I misspelled fettuccine.🙄

[daisylu]

Apr 25, 2024 18:14:48 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

And someone else is interviewing with said company too from my lab.

He's had it because they keep telling him . he's not good enough to promote too

And at the moment there are no plans to replace the chemist that left, open the associate position already open and no intention of replacing D when he leaves in June.

So he's had enough as well and is looking to get out as well.

I'm just so mad and frustrated. Am I so delusional that I can't recognize I'm a bad employee who is creating undue hardship on her coworkers?

Meanwhile the person who very obviously IS doing exactly that they've bent over to accommodate pulling two other people in to do his tests and giving him a whole extra week to do certain samples. Something NONE of the rest of us get.

Five days period no matter how big your workload. No matter how many submissions I am expected to turn them around and have samples ready same day.

He gets 10 fucking days because he just cannot handle more than 10 samples at once.

I'm not kidding I was in that meeting.

Several of have had to do close to 60 samples in 5 days no exceptions. I got chewed out for receiving a submission a day late because I was begged to by the analyst to let them get caught up. I was told no exceptions.

Uh huh.

He also had 12 corrective actions open and constantly messes up his work. All his samples are overdue.

But I'm destroying tye lab because I misspelled fettuccine.🙄

IME, this person likely has some issues and is using the EAP for either help or coverage. I have seen many employees kept on for that reason. HR is usually aware of the EAP, though maybe not what the exact issue is. It does suck for those who have to work in the same area.