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Post by Abby Normal on Feb 19, 2016 13:40:47 GMT -5
So I found out through my boss that Problem Child is trying to get another position out of our department! I gave that girl SO many opportunities to say it wasn't a good fit...... So are you going to be honest when they call you for a reference, which means she most likely won't get the position and you will still be stuck with her. Or are you going to white lie and let her become someone else's problem which seems most likely what was done to you when you called for a reference? You just structure your response carefully. I had one crappy employee years that was looking. She was about to get fired and I got a reference call for her. Questions went something like this How would you describe her personality and what do the employees think of her? Oh she is always friendly and our production staff think she is wonderful. (Read office staff can't stand her and she's sleeping her way through the production crew) How is her work ethic? She accepts the challenge of anything she chooses to work on. You would be lucky is she worked for you. (Read she resents assignment that she feels are unworthy of her and give minimal effort on those) How does she interact with those in authority? She is confident and has no trouble expressing and standing up for her opinion. (Read it's a data entry position and had no trouble calling a major vendors vp and telling them she didn't like how they were sending information and they needed to fix it or she was going to cut them off. It was a 25 million dollar account and she didn't like how much work she had to do for it.)
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 19, 2016 13:46:39 GMT -5
So are you going to be honest when they call you for a reference, which means she most likely won't get the position and you will still be stuck with her. Or are you going to white lie and let her become someone else's problem which seems most likely what was done to you when you called for a reference? You just structure your response carefully. I had one crappy employee years that was looking. She was about to get fired and I got a reference call for her. Questions went something like this: How would you describe her personality and what do the employees think of her? She is social and gets along with almost everyone (read: spends too much time yakking)How is her work ethic? She devotes as much time as she needs to in order to get her tasks completed (read: takes FOREVER to complete basic shit)How does she interact with those in authority? She has no problem with listening to and following instructions from peers and superiors (read: she doesn't seem to have a hearing problem, and yet here we are)How's that?
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Post by Abby Normal on Feb 19, 2016 13:49:15 GMT -5
So for my update. They did finally call late yesterday am. I went in and wash, rinse, repeat the last couple phone interviews.
Starting would be a bit less than I make now, but it's an NPO so I expected that.
I think I'll get an offer. But one person made a comment yesterday about the relationship be then local and back east. Left me with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Something I need to check on before I consider accepting. She made it sound like they have very little control over certain things at the local level. First guy I talked to thought that would change, other person did not. Not have control over those, may be a deal breaker for me.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Feb 19, 2016 15:24:15 GMT -5
Is it wrong of me that I take delight in seeing DH's job at his former company keep popping up on the local job website? It's popped up at least three times since they terminated him in December. Maybe DH wasn't the problem. If it's wrong, we're all wrong together. I find it very amusing
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 19, 2016 15:52:00 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015 , don't keep us hanging out here. Let us know as soon as you know something (my fingers are cramping up from all my typing while I keep them crossed for you and your family)
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 15:57:57 GMT -5
He hasn't called so he's either still in the interview or waiting until I get home. Suspense is killing me.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 19, 2016 16:05:02 GMT -5
Got into the copy machine room. It's also the Dispatch training room so I was waiting for them to go on break so as to not interrupt.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 19, 2016 16:34:40 GMT -5
Is it wrong of me that I take delight in seeing DH's job at his former company keep popping up on the local job website? It's popped up at least three times since they terminated him in December. Maybe DH wasn't the problem. If it's wrong, we're all wrong together. I find it very amusing And if we're all wrong, I don't wanna be right.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 19, 2016 16:38:14 GMT -5
So I went to my second interview for my first choice job. I was told previously that I am in the final 3. After that,I went to lunch with the president of the company. He told me that after some consideration, he decided to hire two people and make one role a little different than the one I was interviewing for and that he and the other people that I met think I would be perfect for it. He's supposed to be getting back to me on Monday or Tuesday to let me know. So now the suspense is going to kill me all weekend!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 17:38:15 GMT -5
Good luck, andi9899! You have interviewed for a lot of jobs lately, and it is time one falls into place for you. Am I the only one who is wondering what HT's offer to TheHaitian was? I know it would take a lot to make him move, but he's being so QUIET about it after letting us know the HR person called him last night for a game of phone tag.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 18:46:24 GMT -5
Guess who called me for a phone interview today? Crate & Barrel lol! I applied for a part time job there and did not even think about it; it was more to mess with my wife. Not even sure if I will call them back...
As for HT, HR emailed me back saying she was sorry for not calling me last night, her class lasted till 8 PM and she was afraid it was too late and when would I be free today. Told her after 6PM and here we are 6:45 PM and still no call.
The head hunter has been blowing my phone all day waiting for me to tell them if I accepted the job or not. So I guess they know something I don't know but I told them I still did not receive an offer and they sounded annoyed by that.
Oh well....
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 18:46:45 GMT -5
He hasn't called so he's either still in the interview or waiting until I get home. Suspense is killing me. So? So? So?
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 19:57:15 GMT -5
I GOT THE JOB!!!! They are making it so hard to say no and such a great company to work for. Salary is there, bonus structure is there... And feels like an opportunity of a lifetime to live in the city like we always wanted to. I would be in the Arlington/Alexandria and Metro DC area.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 19, 2016 20:01:12 GMT -5
I GOT THE JOB!!!! They are making it so hard to say no and such a great company to work for. Salary is there, bonus structure is there... And feels like an opportunity of a lifetime to live in the city like we always wanted to. I would be in the Arlington/Alexandria and Metro DC area. Sounds like this could be an interesting weekend in the TheHaitian household. Congratulations. And whatever you decide, this proofs that your previous company was run by st*pid *sses
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Post by Jaguar on Feb 19, 2016 20:02:54 GMT -5
I GOT THE JOB!!!! They are making it so hard to say no and such a great company to work for. Salary is there, bonus structure is there... And feels like an opportunity of a lifetime to live in the city like we always wanted to. I would be in the Arlington/Alexandria and Metro DC area. So does that mean you have two jobs now, or is it three jobs ? For the life of me I can't remember.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:02:56 GMT -5
I GOT THE JOB!!!! They are making it so hard to say no and such a great company to work for. Salary is there, bonus structure is there... And feels like an opportunity of a lifetime to live in the city like we always wanted to. I would be in the Arlington/Alexandria and Metro DC area. Lol. I knew this was going to be a hard choice. Is HT or Shaw's like the school districts in our area? If you turn one down, you are unlikely to get an offer from them again. Maybe, just maybe, you can find a different principal (middle school, for example, rather than the high school one) to make an offer. But they don't react well. They also don't react well if you resign for another system. Good luck in your decision.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 20:07:41 GMT -5
DH said the interview went really well. He'd be surprised if he doesn't get it. Should hear from them next week.
Dairy had a surprise audit that is why things are moving slow. DH was told he's still in the running.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:26:56 GMT -5
DH said the interview went really well. He'd be surprised if he doesn't get it. Should hear from them next week. That is really good! *fingers crossed* And I know we should not count our chicken before they are hatched but what would you do with an extra 20k/year? Hookers and blow?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 20:29:14 GMT -5
Crab legs and coach purses!! Carried home in our brand new escalade
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:30:58 GMT -5
Ok my wife and I are seriously talking about it and making a list of pros and cons. For starters I considered HT before I got fired, before any issues. S was just a grasp for hope/will to stay here. HT I feel move me from the normal Supermaket to a higher end level of supermarkets (believe me there is a difference) competing with the Wegman's and Whole foods of the world on a leveled playing field. Company has a stronger image, stronger customer loyalty, stronger finances, is growing, stronger buying power and part of the #1 retail chain in America. Opportunities!!! It gives us a chance to live in the city we always wanted to be and seriously let not kid ourselves we are getting older and city life is losing it's appeal fast. This might be our last change to cross it off the bucket list. Also their current bonus structure has been in place for more than 15 years and have achievable goals while S bonus structure has only been in place for 2 years and might change on a whim. Also I don't know how achievable they are for the store I am going to
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:35:03 GMT -5
On the other hand S allows us to stay in MA for: - our house (biggest reason for staying)... Starting to regret buying that house - stability/IVF treatment - our studies : I want to go back to school and my wife wants to finish her PhD (though some days I wonder about her...) The company is coming off a dark past (being sold off, closing stores, laying off people) and starting to dig themselves out of a hole. Good for me: the management is "old" so as years past/retirement there is definitely room for growth (faster track) down the line vs my former company or HT where it was a mixed work force so some competition. If I shine in my future assignment I will be golden I think and with my connection to the current VP (till he finds another CEO gig) I can utilize it to benefit me career wise and financially. So it is not all bad with S... I can grow some relationships, my new DM seems to really like me because I blew him away at my interview and really enjoys talking to me. So I am going to work my ass off not to fuck that up The guy almost hugged me when he saw me on Tuesday lol Not sure what happened with my old DM, he fired me but was concerned about me and was happy I found a new job, keep asking my old workers if they heard from me and how I was doing. That makes my wife think that the order to fire me came from above and he was just following the assignment. I still cannot figure out to save my life who the hell I pissed off. Anyway... Going to sleep on it tonight.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:42:23 GMT -5
Crab legs and coach purses!! Carried home in our brand new escalade I dig your style
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Post by steph08 on Feb 19, 2016 20:43:42 GMT -5
DH said the interview went really well. He'd be surprised if he doesn't get it. Should hear from them next week. That is really good! *fingers crossed* And I know we should not count our chicken before they are hatched but what would you do with an extra 20k/year? Hookers and blow? It's going to be spent on housing/food/living in the DC area.
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Post by justme on Feb 19, 2016 20:45:40 GMT -5
I would think that there's odds that HT insurance wouldn't cover IVF since it's not based in MA. So that's a specific extra cost needs to be considered in the price difference.
The Arlington/Alexandria area of DC is actually one of my fave of the areas around there I've been. That's where I would have lived if I had to move up there, but it's not cheap. Which you know. I didn't want a commute and in quick looking it was at minimum 1800 for a 1 bedroom with an acceptable commute. I don't like long commutes so I was mostly looking at high rises near the metro.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:45:40 GMT -5
I GOT THE JOB!!!! They are making it so hard to say no and such a great company to work for. Salary is there, bonus structure is there... And feels like an opportunity of a lifetime to live in the city like we always wanted to. I would be in the Arlington/Alexandria and Metro DC area. Lol. I knew this was going to be a hard choice. Is HT or Shaw's like the school districts in our area? If you turn one down, you are unlikely to get an offer from them again. Maybe, just maybe, you can find a different principal (middle school, for example, rather than the high school one) to make an offer. But they don't react well. They also don't react well if you resign for another system. Good luck in your decision. I don't know... My wife said maybe in 5 years when she is done with her PhD But really? Do you think they will want to hire me in 5 years after I turned them Down? Probably not... And you bring a bigger issue: HT is owned by # 1 grocery retail chain in the nation. S is owned by the # 2 grocery retail chain in the nation. So whoever I piss off I can kiss goodbye to 50% of my chances (except for smaller chains/mom/pops) of finding a job. If you are blackballed by 1 organization, you are blackballed by all 14-18 organizations under that umbrella. ETA: so I would need to turn down the job diplomatically and really work on not burning my bridges.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:49:35 GMT -5
I would think that there's odds that HT insurance wouldn't cover IVF since it's not based in MA. So that's a specific extra cost needs to be considered in the price difference. The Arlington/Alexandria area of DC is actually one of my fave of the areas around there I've been. That's where I would have lived if I had to move up there, but it's not cheap. Which you know. I didn't want a commute and in quick looking it was at minimum 1800 for a 1 bedroom with an acceptable commute. I don't like long commutes so I was mostly looking at high rises near the metro. Yep it is not cheap. My training store would be an Alexandria but she said how I interviews they felt confident with me in their higher volume stores. She said I could rent/buy a condo in DC and commute out to Alexandria/Arlington or once my training is done I can request to be put in a DC store. The cost of living is high but I am used to a high cost of living already, expect our $2,300/month would be spent on rent vs mortgage unless we are happy with a small 2 bedroom / 1 bath condo in DC. But is the experience of living in DC, my wife working in DC worth it? Will we really want to do it in 5-9 years when we are 36-40 with 2 kids, older, set in our ways?
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 20:55:32 GMT -5
Seriously I need to do a better job checking my voicemails after work. Only checking them now and the headhunter left me a voicemail at 3:48 PM stating that she got an email from HT and they want to extend me an offer... That is 4 hours earlier than the call lol! I don't answer my phone while at work and everything goes to voicemail.
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Post by WholeLottaNothin on Feb 19, 2016 20:57:37 GMT -5
Crab legs and coach purses!! Carried home in our brand new escalade You'll stock your freezer with Omaha Steaks
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Post by justme on Feb 19, 2016 21:00:19 GMT -5
I would think that there's odds that HT insurance wouldn't cover IVF since it's not based in MA. So that's a specific extra cost needs to be considered in the price difference. The Arlington/Alexandria area of DC is actually one of my fave of the areas around there I've been. That's where I would have lived if I had to move up there, but it's not cheap. Which you know. I didn't want a commute and in quick looking it was at minimum 1800 for a 1 bedroom with an acceptable commute. I don't like long commutes so I was mostly looking at high rises near the metro. Yep it is not cheap. My training store would be an Alexandria but she said how I interviews they felt confident with me in their higher volume stores. She said I could rent/buy a condo in DC and commute out to Alexandria/Arlington or once my training is done I can request to be put in a DC store. The cost of living is high but I am used to a high cost of living already, expect our $2,300/month would be spent on rent vs mortgage unless we are happy with a small 2 bedroom / 1 bath condo in DC. But is the experience of living in DC, my wife working in DC worth it? Will we really want to do it in 5-9 years when we are 36-40 with 2 kids, older, set in our ways? Oh I'm sure it'll be at least 2300 for a decent 2 if you were wanting to live inside DC! Would she be wanting to work for the government directly or something else? Don't know about her niche, but I know it can take forever to get a job with the Fed. Hell, I never heard beyond the application confirmation for those that I applied to. I was a government contractor and it was hit or miss on whether jobs were out there (though they also weren't paying me enough so that's why I didn't move, though it'd be less of an issue for her).
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Post by Abby Normal on Feb 19, 2016 21:14:37 GMT -5
So I talked with a couple people at the company and have the issues figured out. They made an offer which is about 5k less than I make now, but way less stress.
But now I'm hesitating. Take the guarantee or pass and take current companies offer which means I'd be out of a job in 6 months and have alot of crap to deal with before then.
This company would probably be a good fit for me. If I wait the 6 minths, I may not be able to find something I like as much.
Fear and indecision.
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