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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 18, 2016 13:56:53 GMT -5
I would show up. Better safe than sorry. What she said! We had a candidate do this, and it didn't turn out well... Of course there had been communication to him cancelling but I'd be nervous. Do you have an email address for anyone that you could follow up with? Then at least its in writing and not just lost on someones voicemail that may or may not be checked.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 18, 2016 13:57:48 GMT -5
Nope. I was told by my boss at Boys Town that I should have asked his permission before I started applying for other jobs. I told him to stick it where the sun don't shine and it was all downhill from there. You are being terribly unprofessional and rude by not thinking about your boss and his needs first. You gotta wonder what kind of manager really thinks like that. A crazy one. That's pretty much word for word what I was told when I put in my notice. My response to that had the F word in it.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 18, 2016 13:59:24 GMT -5
So someone told me that the "manager" told them that he knew that I am looking for a job. I guess people have told him that they've seen my resume on various sites. Um. So? And why are you talking to a coworker about me? Shouldn't some things be confidential? can anyone just go lookup resumes on this site? Surely there's some kind of hiring manager log in or something. He could see it I imagine as well as hiring managers for other branches we have.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 18, 2016 16:41:00 GMT -5
So I forgot to post this, I got an email from HT last night at about 7 PM asking me to call their hiring manager...
We were eating dinner around that one so I did not notice the email till about 10 PM when I was heading to bed.
I emailed her back saying I could call her today when I was lunch and this morning she emailed back that she would be training a class till about 6 PM. So I told her I should be out of work by then so she should just call me... I did not feel like playing phone tag all day.
Still feeling a bit guilty about going to the interview when I already accepted another job and possibly turning down the job but it was the best outcome for my family (staying put) and I need to put my family first.
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Post by chen35 on Feb 18, 2016 17:27:26 GMT -5
Any feedback on the email below? It's to the person that (I think) is the hiring manager for the job I'm interested in, but I'm not 100% sure and I can't figure it out from the titles and we don't have public org charts. I do have legit questions about the role before I apply: are there people that report to this position? Is it new or did someone leave? etc. These weren't answered in the job description and I need a role that's the right fit. I don't want to waste anybody's time if it's not a fit. I've interacted with this person a couple times a year in the past but haven't spoken to him in maybe 9 months at this point. Dear XXXXXXXX Good to have a chance to connect again. I’m currently on the XYZ team in DepartmentY, and am starting to think about what my next move might be. I was really excited to find the posting for a blahblah blah manager on the ABC team. I’ve had some exposure to ABC in my current role and have always found it a fascinating area of the company. While I’m in a XYZ role now, I’m looking for a role that will let me leverage more of my analytical skills and gain field experience. I was unable to tell from the listing who the position would report to and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Before applying, I’d love to be able to touch base with someone on the team and learn a bit more about the position. Hope all is well and you’re having a great new year! -Me I like it as is.
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Post by The Fonz on Feb 18, 2016 17:31:47 GMT -5
I received a tentative offer as a Social Worker at the local VA hospital. This is my dream job, and I went into social work for this specific position. I thought I would have to wait to earn my independent license before getting hired. Super excited!!
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Post by Blonde Granny on Feb 18, 2016 17:39:06 GMT -5
Fonz, thank you for being excited about a job with the VA. Most who I have come in contact with over the years as the spouse of a veteran and proud to be serving needs of the veterans and their family members. The one meeting I had with one of our local SW couldn't have been more productive. She was kind, professional and understood the confusion wives have when dealing with the VA for their veteran.
All the best for you.
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Post by The Fonz on Feb 18, 2016 17:48:35 GMT -5
Fonz, thank you for being excited about a job with the VA. Most who I have come in contact with over the years as the spouse of a veteran and proud to be serving needs of the veterans and their family members. The one meeting I had with one of our local SW couldn't have been more productive. She was kind, professional and understood the confusion wives have when dealing with the VA for their veteran.
All the best for you.
BG Thank you so much!! As a 21 year army veteran, I believe I have unique insight into what my patients will need, and also what their families will need. I completely agree with the thought that the family of the patient needs just as much care and compassion as the patient themselves. Now I just have to trudge through all the paperwork involved with the hiring process.
Good luck to everyone out there looking for a new job, interviewing for a new job, happy on their job, or not punching your supervisor.
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Post by bean29 on Feb 18, 2016 17:51:02 GMT -5
Any feedback on the email below? It's to the person that (I think) is the hiring manager for the job I'm interested in, but I'm not 100% sure and I can't figure it out from the titles and we don't have public org charts. I do have legit questions about the role before I apply: are there people that report to this position? Is it new or did someone leave? etc. These weren't answered in the job description and I need a role that's the right fit. I don't want to waste anybody's time if it's not a fit. I've interacted with this person a couple times a year in the past but haven't spoken to him in maybe 9 months at this point. Dear XXXXXXXX Good to have a chance to connect again. I’m currently on the XYZ team in DepartmentY, and am starting to think about what my next move might be. I was really excited to find the posting for a blahblah blah manager on the ABC team. I’ve had some exposure to ABC in my current role and have always found it a fascinating area of the company. While I’m in a XYZ role now, I’m looking for a role that will let me leverage more of my analytical skills and gain field experience. I was unable to tell from the listing who the position would report to and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Before applying, I’d love to be able to touch base with someone on the team and learn a bit more about the position. Hope all is well and you’re having a great new year! -Me I like it as is. Yeah, I read through it and I thought it looked fine, but I have not applied for a job in nearly 9 years . Hopefully someone with more recent experience will weigh in.
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Post by Peace77 on Feb 18, 2016 18:59:33 GMT -5
So I forgot to post this, I got an email from HT last night at about 7 PM asking me to call their hiring manager... We were eating dinner around that one so I did not notice the email till about 10 PM when I was heading to bed. I emailed her back saying I could call her today when I was lunch and this morning she emailed back that she would be training a class till about 6 PM. So I told her I should be out of work by then so she should just call me... I did not feel like playing phone tag all day. Still feeling a bit guilty about going to the interview when I already accepted another job and possibly turning down the job but it was the best outcome for my family (staying put) and I need to put my family first. Don't feel bad. You never know what can happen. DH once accepted a job offer. They even offered me a part-time job. By the time we arrived back home from the interview trip, the offer had been rescinded.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 18, 2016 19:01:07 GMT -5
I received a tentative offer as a Social Worker at the local VA hospital. This is my dream job, and I went into social work for this specific position. I thought I would have to wait to earn my independent license before getting hired. Super excited!! Congrats!!! Good luck
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 18, 2016 19:02:48 GMT -5
So I forgot to post this, I got an email from HT last night at about 7 PM asking me to call their hiring manager... We were eating dinner around that one so I did not notice the email till about 10 PM when I was heading to bed. I emailed her back saying I could call her today when I was lunch and this morning she emailed back that she would be training a class till about 6 PM. So I told her I should be out of work by then so she should just call me... I did not feel like playing phone tag all day. Still feeling a bit guilty about going to the interview when I already accepted another job and possibly turning down the job but it was the best outcome for my family (staying put) and I need to put my family first. Don't feel bad. You never know what can happen. DH once accepted a job offer. They even offered me a part-time job. By the time we arrived back home from the interview trip, the offer had been rescinded. Ouch, that must have sucked big time Sorry it happened to you! 7 PM and haven't heard from her, guessing her class ran longer than expected! Oh well...
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Post by Peace77 on Feb 18, 2016 19:06:51 GMT -5
Don't feel bad. You never know what can happen. DH once accepted a job offer. They even offered me a part-time job. By the time we arrived back home from the interview trip, the offer had been rescinded. Ouch, that must have sucked big time Sorry it happened to you! 7 PM and haven't heard from her, guessing her class ran longer than expected! Oh well... Yeah, but now that outfit is out of business.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 18, 2016 19:11:37 GMT -5
Ouch, that must have sucked big time Sorry it happened to you! 7 PM and haven't heard from her, guessing her class ran longer than expected! Oh well... Yeah, but now that outfit is out of business. Silver lining
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Post by milee on Feb 18, 2016 19:33:48 GMT -5
Any feedback on the email below? It's to the person that (I think) is the hiring manager for the job I'm interested in, but I'm not 100% sure and I can't figure it out from the titles and we don't have public org charts. I do have legit questions about the role before I apply: are there people that report to this position? Is it new or did someone leave? etc. These weren't answered in the job description and I need a role that's the right fit. I don't want to waste anybody's time if it's not a fit. I've interacted with this person a couple times a year in the past but haven't spoken to him in maybe 9 months at this point. Dear XXXXXXXX Good to have a chance to connect again. I’m currently on the XYZ team in DepartmentY, and am starting to think about what my next move might be. I was really excited to find the posting for a blahblah blah manager on the ABC team. I’ve had some exposure to ABC in my current role and have always found it a fascinating area of the company. While I’m in a XYZ role now, I’m looking for a role that will let me leverage more of my analytical skills and gain field experience. I was unable to tell from the listing who the position would report to and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Before applying, I’d love to be able to touch base with someone on the team and learn a bit more about the position. Hope all is well and you’re having a great new year! -Me If you've already sent this, don't worry - it's fine. Especially if it's going to a person in HR. One small tweak to consider for future messages is to find ways to minimize the use of "I". It's subtle, but overuse of "I" can signal someone who is only focused on their needs and also just gets repetitive. Plus, not using "I" and instead making declarative statements is a subtle but powerful way to indicate confidence. Example of an alternative:
Good to have a chance to connect again. The posting for blah manager on the ABC team sounds very interesting. I'm looking for a role that will let me leverage my analytical skills and gain field experience - this could be a good fit.
Is there someone on the team that is available to discuss details and answer questions about the position?
Hope all is well and you're having a great new year!
- Me Position, Team
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Post by Pants on Feb 18, 2016 19:39:59 GMT -5
Any feedback on the email below? It's to the person that (I think) is the hiring manager for the job I'm interested in, but I'm not 100% sure and I can't figure it out from the titles and we don't have public org charts. I do have legit questions about the role before I apply: are there people that report to this position? Is it new or did someone leave? etc. These weren't answered in the job description and I need a role that's the right fit. I don't want to waste anybody's time if it's not a fit. I've interacted with this person a couple times a year in the past but haven't spoken to him in maybe 9 months at this point. Dear XXXXXXXX Good to have a chance to connect again. I’m currently on the XYZ team in DepartmentY, and am starting to think about what my next move might be. I was really excited to find the posting for a blahblah blah manager on the ABC team. I’ve had some exposure to ABC in my current role and have always found it a fascinating area of the company. While I’m in a XYZ role now, I’m looking for a role that will let me leverage more of my analytical skills and gain field experience. I was unable to tell from the listing who the position would report to and was hoping you could point me in the right direction. Before applying, I’d love to be able to touch base with someone on the team and learn a bit more about the position. Hope all is well and you’re having a great new year! -Me If you've already sent this, don't worry - it's fine. Especially if it's going to a person in HR. One small tweak to consider for future messages is to find ways to minimize the use of "I". It's subtle, but overuse of "I" can signal someone who is only focused on their needs and also just gets repetitive. Plus, not using "I" and instead making declarative statements is a subtle but powerful way to indicate confidence. Example of an alternative:
Good to have a chance to connect again. The posting for blah manager on the ABC team sounds very interesting. I'm looking for a role that will let me leverage my analytical skills and gain field experience - this could be a good fit.
Is there someone on the team that is available to discuss details and answer questions about the position?
Hope all is well and you're having a great new year!
- Me Position, Team
Didn't send it - a little more research revealed it didn't report up through either of the two people I thought it might. It reports to someone I've never met or contacted, so need to revise accordingly. I thought updating resume would be good to send with it (since total stranger) so this is to be continued. Also the "I" thing was bugging me too, but we get smacked on the hand for the passive voice around here...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 20:28:13 GMT -5
If you've already sent this, don't worry - it's fine. Especially if it's going to a person in HR. One small tweak to consider for future messages is to find ways to minimize the use of "I". It's subtle, but overuse of "I" can signal someone who is only focused on their needs and also just gets repetitive. Plus, not using "I" and instead making declarative statements is a subtle but powerful way to indicate confidence. Example of an alternative:
Good to have a chance to connect again. The posting for blah manager on the ABC team sounds very interesting. I'm looking for a role that will let me leverage my analytical skills and gain field experience - this could be a good fit.
Is there someone on the team that is available to discuss details and answer questions about the position?
Hope all is well and you're having a great new year!
- Me Position, Team
Didn't send it - a little more research revealed it didn't report up through either of the two people I thought it might. It reports to someone I've never met or contacted, so need to revise accordingly. I thought updating resume would be good to send with it (since total stranger) so this is to be continued. Also the "I" thing was bugging me too, but we get smacked on the hand for the passive voice around here... If it makes you feel better, there isn't a single passive construction in Milee's response. Feel very special. I usually only comment on grammar if I get paid first.
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Post by Pants on Feb 18, 2016 22:38:07 GMT -5
Didn't send it - a little more research revealed it didn't report up through either of the two people I thought it might. It reports to someone I've never met or contacted, so need to revise accordingly. I thought updating resume would be good to send with it (since total stranger) so this is to be continued. Also the "I" thing was bugging me too, but we get smacked on the hand for the passive voice around here... If it makes you feel better, there isn't a single passive construction in Milee's response. Feel very special. I usually only comment on grammar if I get paid first. I mean sure there's that.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 18, 2016 23:03:52 GMT -5
So I found out through my boss that Problem Child is trying to get another position out of our department! I gave that girl SO many opportunities to say it wasn't a good fit......
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Post by geenamercile on Feb 19, 2016 6:08:26 GMT -5
So I found out through my boss that Problem Child is trying to get another position out of our department! I gave that girl SO many opportunities to say it wasn't a good fit...... So are you going to be honest when they call you for a reference, which means she most likely won't get the position and you will still be stuck with her. Or are you going to white lie and let her become someone else's problem which seems most likely what was done to you when you called for a reference?
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 19, 2016 6:29:58 GMT -5
Didn't send it - a little more research revealed it didn't report up through either of the two people I thought it might. It reports to someone I've never met or contacted, so need to revise accordingly. I thought updating resume would be good to send with it (since total stranger) so this is to be continued. Also the "I" thing was bugging me too, but we get smacked on the hand for the passive voice around here... If it makes you feel better, there isn't a single passive construction in Milee's response. Feel very special. I usually only comment on grammar if I get paid first. LOL! Had to laugh at this. The bit about comments on grammar is my stance, as well. Nobody's paying me to be the grammar police so I'm not going to put myself out!
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Post by mmhmm on Feb 19, 2016 6:32:01 GMT -5
So I found out through my boss that Problem Child is trying to get another position out of our department! I gave that girl SO many opportunities to say it wasn't a good fit...... Whoo, boy! The worm, she is a'turnin'. Don't you just love drama in the office? Gads, I'm glad to be retired! Good luck with all this!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 9:44:52 GMT -5
Is it wrong of me that I take delight in seeing DH's job at his former company keep popping up on the local job website? It's popped up at least three times since they terminated him in December. Maybe DH wasn't the problem.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 19, 2016 10:43:32 GMT -5
Nope. Not at all.
I can't find my resume at home. I hauled it out a couple of weeks ago to show dh how I handles multiple jobs with one employer and now it's vanished into the stress-inducing shite-room of an office.
The good news is that I have another paper copy at work. I'm going to make a copy today and work on it this weekend.
So far, nothing has been posted officially.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 13:00:44 GMT -5
DH has his interview in two hours. So nervous! This is a big deal since it would be a significant leap in terms of salary and responsibility.
I take it as a positive that the HR lady helped DH with his resume. If they are checking off boxes or have other people they are more interested in they don't waste time personally helping you tool your resume.
With her help they can tell at a glance he meets all their expectations. That avoids him getting into the situation I did where apparently phone skills were the deciding factor but were never brought up in the interview. I have those skills I just didn't think to bring them up for a tech position.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Feb 19, 2016 13:12:48 GMT -5
Is it wrong of me that I take delight in seeing DH's job at his former company keep popping up on the local job website? It's popped up at least three times since they terminated him in December. Maybe DH wasn't the problem. Funny you mention this. I've seen that happen twice since I started interviewing. In both cases, the company principal posted the job as one thing, then lied to me about it in the interview. Serves them right for not doing right by people.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Feb 19, 2016 13:14:21 GMT -5
Is it wrong of me that I take delight in seeing DH's job at his former company keep popping up on the local job website? It's popped up at least three times since they terminated him in December. Maybe DH wasn't the problem. There is nothing wrong with that at all. I keep seeing my old job listed on job sites. They eventually stopped putting the name of the company in the ad (I wonder why ), but I can tell it is them by the way it is written.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 19, 2016 13:18:05 GMT -5
I saw it posted thru an employment agency as well. I figured out it was them b/c it was word for word the same as the posting with their name on it.
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Post by TheHaitian on Feb 19, 2016 13:18:10 GMT -5
DH has his interview in two hours. So nervous! This is a big deal since it would be a significant leap in terms of salary and responsibility. I take it as a positive that the HR lady helped DH with his resume. If they are checking off boxes or have other people they are more interested in they don't waste time personally helping you tool your resume. With her help they can tell at a glance he meets all their expectations. That avoids him getting into the situation I did where apparently phone skills were the deciding factor but were never brought up in the interview. I have those skills I just didn't think to bring them up for a tech position. Keeping fingers crossed for you guys! After the year you guys had, you've earned it!
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 19, 2016 13:38:24 GMT -5
So I found out through my boss that Problem Child is trying to get another position out of our department! I gave that girl SO many opportunities to say it wasn't a good fit...... So are you going to be honest when they call you for a reference, which means she most likely won't get the position and you will still be stuck with her. Or are you going to white lie and let her become someone else's problem which seems most likely what was done to you when you called for a reference? She will not be getting a reference from me or my boss. The most she can get is a confirmation that she worked for our department. I feel like people need to know the truth about her, but I'm also aware that if no one wants her that we're stuck. If only there was a way to get her fired.... I actually think I know about something to get her fired, but sharing it will come off as vindictive. My favorite is still how my boss snuck in the whole "you were probably right all along" line into our conversation. We butted heads about her for months and that's all I got.
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