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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 10:05:34 GMT -5
Everyone has a right to their feelings but it's hard being the rock all the time. True. Sometimes you do have to tone it down. I shouldn't have bottled it up quite as much as I did, but it's not good to go in the other direction and cry everyday either. This whole time management thing at DH's employer is getting crazy. They just gave him an email address and when he had a moment he checked to see if it was live. He got disciplined for it b/c he took 2 minutes to look at his email. You are only allowed to look at your work email AFTER you have clocked out for the day and not a second sooner. WTF? I can see having a no personal email while you are on the clock policy but WORK email? What if you get something official that needs to be addressed? When I was working on our IRC I was answering at least 3 different people at a time depending on who had the submission. If they expected me to do all that off the clock I would have told them to stick it where the sun don't shine. We need to find DH a different job this is getting ridiculous. Nobody can be as perfect as they expect employees to be. I am wondering if next I'll hear they make you clock out to go to the bathroom.
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Post by chen35 on Jan 28, 2016 10:12:09 GMT -5
I am here to join this thread. Still have a job, but there has been a re-org that moved my whole team to a different part of the company. It was a shock to come in on Jan 4th and hear that a bunch of us have been moved to a different group. Its been a struggle to adjust to new project/project management styles/setups and various other things. I am very good at adapting so I wouldn't have minded much. Except, 2 weeks after the move we are told that instead of working on the "new" project that they moved us for, we are to be supplementing an already ongoing project that is not doing so well! Needless to say, my programmers are NOT happy. I am in middle management, I lead of team of 15. We have no idea why the move happened and of course no ones telling us. The problem also is that in the last year I have taken on more project management role and less actual IT development work. So right now I am in that weird phase where I cannot market myself as 100% technical, but I also cannot market self as 100% project manager. KWIM? I am trying to built my resume to showcase both, but I don't know.... So today I brushed up my resume and started fine tuning it. I have also started looking at various certifications to take to boost my resume. But there is no fire in me. I want things to change, but not bad enough. I am in a funk basically and really need to get off my ass and go sell myself in the IT industry! Considering how fierce I have been in my career and such a go-getter, I am surprised at myself. I am losing interest and IT IS NOT A GOOD THING!!! So someone kick me in the rear please? Yell, scream and tell me if I want things to change I HAVE TO WORK TO CHANGE THEM. I need to be given a solid talking to Start with the smallest step. What is the very first (smallest) thing you could do to change the situation? Do that. Now, what is the next step? I'm talking seriously small steps. Maybe the first step is to actually sign up for a certification course. Just the sign up part. I think when you are in a funk, you can't talk yourself out of it. Small actions get the ball rolling and will help pull you out.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 10:20:19 GMT -5
They've been one of the biggest employers in Omaha for years, so my guess is they get away with it pretty well.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 28, 2016 10:21:59 GMT -5
Nancy, I think you have a great attitude and wish you the best of luck! Thanks. It helps keep the depression and the crazies away. That kind of thing can creep in when you least expect it, and you have to work pretty hard to beat it back down. That's not to say that I don't get angry over stuff. I do, but I keep "work" and home separate still, even though "work" at the moment is looking for work. No matter what, it isn't fair to drag DH into the misery. I'll share with him, but I won't bury him in it. It's not his fault this happened. My DH was laid off once in his career for about a year. He did side and odd jobs until he was rehired. In a sense, that is what I am doing with my freelance. But he still had paid company insurance during his layoff (they planned to call him back to work when the slow period was over, and they did). Whereas I don't, other than the ACA, which I do pay for/get a tax credit for (I did not pay for my work insurance previously - my ex-boss did). It's not easy facing this. In over forty years in the workforce, I've never had to do so. But you can look at it as the best or worse thing that ever happens to you. I'm looking at it as the best.
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Post by yogiii on Jan 28, 2016 10:39:34 GMT -5
I am here to join this thread. Still have a job, but there has been a re-org that moved my whole team to a different part of the company. It was a shock to come in on Jan 4th and hear that a bunch of us have been moved to a different group. Its been a struggle to adjust to new project/project management styles/setups and various other things. I am very good at adapting so I wouldn't have minded much. Except, 2 weeks after the move we are told that instead of working on the "new" project that they moved us for, we are to be supplementing an already ongoing project that is not doing so well! Needless to say, my programmers are NOT happy. I am in middle management, I lead of team of 15. We have no idea why the move happened and of course no ones telling us. The problem also is that in the last year I have taken on more project management role and less actual IT development work. So right now I am in that weird phase where I cannot market myself as 100% technical, but I also cannot market self as 100% project manager. KWIM? I am trying to built my resume to showcase both, but I don't know.... So today I brushed up my resume and started fine tuning it. I have also started looking at various certifications to take to boost my resume. But there is no fire in me. I want things to change, but not bad enough. I am in a funk basically and really need to get off my ass and go sell myself in the IT industry! Considering how fierce I have been in my career and such a go-getter, I am surprised at myself. I am losing interest and IT IS NOT A GOOD THING!!! So someone kick me in the rear please? Yell, scream and tell me if I want things to change I HAVE TO WORK TO CHANGE THEM. I need to be given a solid talking to Do you have connections in another part of the company you can put the word out to that you're looking for change/growth? I work for a big company and that's one of the things I see as a big perk. I know tons of people at a couple different sites, so even something as small as an IM can get something bigger moving.
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Post by WholeLottaNothin on Jan 28, 2016 11:00:37 GMT -5
Everyone has a right to their feelings but it's hard being the rock all the time. True. Sometimes you do have to tone it down. I shouldn't have bottled it up quite as much as I did, but it's not good to go in the other direction and cry everyday either. This whole time management thing at DH's employer is getting crazy. They just gave him an email address and when he had a moment he checked to see if it was live. He got disciplined for it b/c he took 2 minutes to look at his email. You are only allowed to look at your work email AFTER you have clocked out for the day and not a second sooner. WTF? I can see having a no personal email while you are on the clock policy but WORK email? What if you get something official that needs to be addressed? When I was working on our IRC I was answering at least 3 different people at a time depending on who had the submission. If they expected me to do all that off the clock I would have told them to stick it where the sun don't shine. We need to find DH a different job this is getting ridiculous. Nobody can be as perfect as they expect employees to be. I am wondering if next I'll hear they make you clock out to go to the bathroom. This sounds like an issue for Labor Standards
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 11:37:52 GMT -5
Oh I am sure it is, but I am not going to make DH fight it. It's better for us if DH keeps his head down and we keep looking. That's if he doesn't end up terminated b/c he took a half a second to blow his nose or something while on the clock.
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Post by Abby Normal on Jan 28, 2016 11:54:21 GMT -5
Carl and his wife were also try to get pregnant through some version of IVF type of thing IICR. If she is she may have already gotten the hormone shots. Telling her to not be emotional is beyond stupid at that point. Even with everything going perfect those hormones make the calmest person crazy. I can't imagine what they would do to someone with stress like this in their life. This maybe something that needs to be brought up to the Dr if she is going through those shots. I don't know what they would say but it is worth them knowing about. Just know that this always happens IMO with those shots. Postponing it would actually make you have to go through it again. The kid thread on WIR might be a better place to ask about this. Good luck!! oh, really good point! I hadn't considered that. I had thought of that, but now way I was going to give the men here a chance to talk about female hormones! She could also be thinking that will delay their plans for trying. And that could be devastating her.
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Post by mojothehelpermonkey on Jan 28, 2016 11:54:52 GMT -5
I am here to join this thread. Still have a job, but there has been a re-org that moved my whole team to a different part of the company. It was a shock to come in on Jan 4th and hear that a bunch of us have been moved to a different group. Its been a struggle to adjust to new project/project management styles/setups and various other things. I am very good at adapting so I wouldn't have minded much. Except, 2 weeks after the move we are told that instead of working on the "new" project that they moved us for, we are to be supplementing an already ongoing project that is not doing so well! Needless to say, my programmers are NOT happy. I am in middle management, I lead of team of 15. We have no idea why the move happened and of course no ones telling us. The problem also is that in the last year I have taken on more project management role and less actual IT development work. So right now I am in that weird phase where I cannot market myself as 100% technical, but I also cannot market self as 100% project manager. KWIM? I am trying to built my resume to showcase both, but I don't know.... So today I brushed up my resume and started fine tuning it. I have also started looking at various certifications to take to boost my resume. But there is no fire in me. I want things to change, but not bad enough. I am in a funk basically and really need to get off my ass and go sell myself in the IT industry! Considering how fierce I have been in my career and such a go-getter, I am surprised at myself. I am losing interest and IT IS NOT A GOOD THING!!! So someone kick me in the rear please? Yell, scream and tell me if I want things to change I HAVE TO WORK TO CHANGE THEM. I need to be given a solid talking to Good luck motivating yourself! You may want to consider multiple resumes emphasizing different skill sets so you can submit different ones depending on the position.
I am lurking for a similar reason. We had a big management change about six months ago and they let go 40% of a unit that we used to partner with, and then merged my unit in with the survivors of the first layoff to shore them up. The new management doesn't approve of my telecommute, but I live to far from work to report there in person, so it is an awkward position for me.
So far I haven't taken any steps to look for something new but I am just lurking here getting some ideas on how people get started. I will probably just stick it out as long as possible because I have really good benefits.
I have a mix of lab experience, project management experience and technical support experience. I have resumes and general cover letters for all three types of positions. It really streamlines the process because now every time I see a position it only takes a half hour or so to move things around to emphasize the skills that particular company is looking for.
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Post by Abby Normal on Jan 28, 2016 12:27:33 GMT -5
So- DH was supposed to hear back from his job potential yesterday. No word. I'm hoping that there has just been a delay in getting back to him, because I think we are both going to be really disappointed if he doesn't get the offer. He thought the second interview went really well, so not hearing back by the day they were supposed to contact him is frustrating.
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 28, 2016 12:44:37 GMT -5
Just scheduled two more interviews. Woot!
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Post by TheHaitian on Jan 28, 2016 13:42:52 GMT -5
Finished with the agent, if he were to list our house he would list it for 335k-340k based on the comps and that is exactly what we thought.
Hopefully we won't have to sale!
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 28, 2016 13:54:48 GMT -5
Everyone has a right to their feelings but it's hard being the rock all the time. True. Sometimes you do have to tone it down. I shouldn't have bottled it up quite as much as I did, but it's not good to go in the other direction and cry everyday either. This whole time management thing at DH's employer is getting crazy. They just gave him an email address and when he had a moment he checked to see if it was live. He got disciplined for it b/c he took 2 minutes to look at his email. You are only allowed to look at your work email AFTER you have clocked out for the day and not a second sooner. WTF? I can see having a no personal email while you are on the clock policy but WORK email? What if you get something official that needs to be addressed? When I was working on our IRC I was answering at least 3 different people at a time depending on who had the submission. If they expected me to do all that off the clock I would have told them to stick it where the sun don't shine. We need to find DH a different job this is getting ridiculous. Nobody can be as perfect as they expect employees to be. I am wondering if next I'll hear they make you clock out to go to the bathroom. A very large national insurance company got sued for this very thing a few years ago and had to pay out a significant amount of money. I take it people are intimidated by them and just don't challenge them. That's a horrible work environment to be in.
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 28, 2016 13:57:03 GMT -5
They've been one of the biggest employers in Omaha for years, so my guess is they get away with it pretty well. One good thing about the hours now is that he can interview in the afternoon and no one would know. I'm thinking that I will have to call in a day next week so that I can go to all these interviews. I hate looking for a job!
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Post by TheHaitian on Jan 28, 2016 15:20:08 GMT -5
Drama, tell your husband to keep looking!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 15:23:32 GMT -5
He is. So far most of the positions posted are ones he has applications floating around for already.
I noticed while checking my email he resubmitted his application to a place that called him a couple weeks ago. He turned them down at the time.
The positions are still open so unless they hold grudges I imagine they'll call him again.
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Post by emma1420 on Jan 28, 2016 15:26:28 GMT -5
He is. There hasn't been a lot posted that we didn't already apply for. I noticed while checking my email he resubmitted his application to a place that called him a couple weeks ago. He turned them down at the time. The positions are still open so unless they hold grudges I imagine they'll call him again. One of the good things about the position he's in now (other than the fact he's collecting a paycheck while he's looking, of course) is that he can now ask some questions during the interview process that it probably didn't occur for him to ask. For example, I would never ask if I needed to put on specialized equipment off the clock or assume that I couldn't check my work email while on the clock. Now, he can at least ask those questions.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 15:29:25 GMT -5
There must be something in the water supply b/c this seems to be the year of whacko employers for a lot of us!
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Post by NastyWoman on Jan 28, 2016 15:56:03 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015 tell your DH to look at his OS job as being his BT job: something that keeps food on the table and the lights on, to reinforce the "this is a temp job and you can do it" feeling. I've said it many times before on this forum, I learn so much here. In this case, I never realised how many unreasonable companies really exist! You'd think that they'd realize that you get the best performance out of people if you treat them at least reasonably well.
I wish you both the best of luck.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 16:24:31 GMT -5
That's what I have been trying to do.
He got so many interviews and several offers right off the bat. I'm sure something will pop up I just don't know the time frame.
I look at it as at least now he can be picky. He doesn't have to rush into a job and can ask a lot more questions than you tend to do when you need to replace your paycheck ASAP.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Jan 28, 2016 16:27:13 GMT -5
Carl, there is a listing price and an actual selling price and they are seldom the same. I hope the agent gave you a breakdown of the costs associated with a sale at $340K. You need to have some idea of what you can walk away with before you list it or accept an offer.
You also need to figure out what would stay with the house and what wouldn't. People will ask for the strangest things when making an offer. It never hurts either (and don't tell the agent this figure) of what you bottom line walk away price would be after all of the sellers costs are added.
Whatever happens, keep the faith.
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Post by milee on Jan 28, 2016 18:27:58 GMT -5
You also need to figure out what would stay with the house and what wouldn't. People will ask for the strangest things when making an offer. I'm guilty of that. We bought our Florida house from a couple that was in their 90s and had used it since the 1960s as their vacation home. There were some very interesting "vintage" things in it, just because that's what had accumulated over the years. I asked for their awesome '60s style multicolored porch lights, their hanging staghorn fern in the front oak tree and this funky ceramic frog table lamp. They said OK on the lights and fern, but hung on to the frog lamp.
Never hurts to ask.
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 28, 2016 19:58:27 GMT -5
I'm now up to 3 in person interviews and 1 phone interview for next week. We'll see how many more I get. One company in particular seems to keep popping up. We'll see.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 28, 2016 20:07:57 GMT -5
DH quit. The manager went off on him about wasting literally two minutes checking his email befor e clocking out.
He told DH that he was not important enough to be checking emails. Only the manager should be communicating with people and he would decide what DH was allowed to know and if hed be permitted to respond.
Cue the crazy train, they said the same thing to me at BT.
DH apologized saying that isn't in the handbook and nobody told him. Manager said too bad.
He proceed to call DH incompetent and a bad employee. A good one wouldnt be checking his email or trying to gear up while on the clock.
The last straw was he said no way would DH ever get the hours he wanted, bad employees don't get later hours. DH needed to be watched.
I can't say I am shocked but I am not happy. I thought we'd have another employer lined up before the poo hit the fan.
So we're back at square one. DH applied for a ton of jobs and contacted the dairy that was interested in him. FIL is going to float us the daycare money for February.
DH and I agreed if he does not have full time employment in two weeks he will get a crap part time job to keep us afloat.
Not feeling to good right now. I am sick of cray cray managers and worrying about money all the time. Hopefully the next employer will be a better fit.
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Post by taz157 on Jan 28, 2016 20:14:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry Drama. I hope DH finds a better employer soon.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 28, 2016 20:17:01 GMT -5
Holy Mary Mother of God, that is so fucked up Drama. I'm sorry.
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Post by cael on Jan 28, 2016 20:18:02 GMT -5
Hey guys, jumping in here for a second. Another "dream" state job was just posted today and whenever I see anything similar to this, I definitely apply (and will this time too). However there is one big thing complicating it this time... I'll be on maternity leave this summer. I am absolutely qualified for this position and some of the people in the department actually know me (I'm hoping my regular contact isn't the person leaving), and I'm going to graduate school to get further education that would be useful in getting jobs like this. Unless they have some stellar internal person, I feel I'd be a strong candidate. How do employers generally view pregnant women applying for jobs? I'd like to think that the fact I'm applying while pregnant conveys that I'm serious about it and wouldn't change my mind and not go back to work, but another issue I have here is that this job is related to beach water quality and monitoring, which obviously happens during the summer so I don't know if they'd want someone who would be out their whole first summer. Pay scale is also an issue - I'd need to start at well over halfway up their pay scale to make it worth the move, especially since when my coworker leaves I'll get his position and a raise. and commuting into Boston, whether driving or train will cost me more money and time obviously, so I definitely wouldn't take this position unless they could offer me a salary that would be worth it. Anyway, I guess I just wanted some feedback on interviewing pregnant women for positions (or being the pregnant woman interviewing, lol). If they chose to interview me, if it wasn't obvious by that point, do I bring it up? (I'd imagine yes, in the interest of being honest?) Good luck and fingers crossed to everyone else searching and interviewing!
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Post by Ava on Jan 28, 2016 20:18:50 GMT -5
Drama; I'm sorry all you have been through this last year. I'm pretty sure you'll post soon to tell us he got a new job.
Best wishes to Cawiau, andi, Nancy, Drama's husband and everyone else who's looking for a job.
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Post by Jaguar on Jan 28, 2016 20:18:52 GMT -5
all the best NomoreDramaQ1015, I'm hoping your DH gets full employment really soon.
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Post by cael on Jan 28, 2016 20:19:56 GMT -5
Oh man Drama, that blows! Fingers crossed something else comes up for him soon.
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