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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 12:32:32 GMT -5
We are delving into a human nature discussion. We all want to win, our way is the right/wrong way, our viewpoint of course ! All cults have a "ours' is the true religion" clause in them. Muslims have jihad. um....ok. my statement had nothing to do with "human nature". i honestly don't believe there is such a thing. there is only human intelligence, and human fear. if you have time, read that book. terrorism has more to do with "occupation" than religion. Agree with occupation over religion. Human nature was the incorrect term for what I wanted to say. I meant human instinct. You would have to see patient behavior patterns that exist when higher brain function is impaired or destroyed from physical injury from accidents. Once you see the patterns that are present and become familiar with them, you can also see them when over laid with higher brain function.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 12:55:19 GMT -5
This is an issue of Muslim/jihadist terrorism. Everything else is just a side issue. I don't think the people being shot and killed/wounded really cared if he was a US citizen. I also don't care where a Muslim jihadist originates. I wish to retain my legal right to kill someone trying to kill me. California has already enacted Obama's wish list of gun control measures. Universal background checks, magazine limits, waiting periods, how's that working over there ? Sorry, I don't share the gun control delusion. You don't think there should be background checks and waiting periods? Seriously? So, any enraged husband with a restraining order should be able to waltz into a gun shop and walk out with a gun?
I will have to say I don't understand that hypothetical situation. Where I live, I don't know of anyone who doesn't have a gun at home, usually several for hunting, utility, etc. We don't have any more instances of enraged spouse's shooting one another than anywhere else per percentage of population. I've argued with my DW and we never considered shooting one another. We make jokes about it at times though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 13:00:14 GMT -5
ISIL says 'boo!' and a portion of America runs and ccries 'OMG! We're gonna die.' Not me. Best to have an expectation that something could happen. No need to go all nuts about it of course.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 17, 2015 14:48:13 GMT -5
ISIL says 'boo!' and a portion of America runs and ccries 'OMG! We're gonna die.' Not me. Best to have an expectation that something could happen. No need to go all nuts about it of course. Same here.
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Post by fishy999 on Dec 17, 2015 22:57:00 GMT -5
They closed all the schools in L.A. today so there is something to what you're saying, OC. I was waiting for someone to mention this and directly or indirectly reference it to Muslims and San Bernadino. I trust you are aware anyone and their mother could have called in/emailed a threat and said they were ISIL or some other terrorist group. But it's let blame the Muslims. Of course- and all of the successful terrorist acts on our soil were preceded by an email or phone call This is just a typical freak out response to one incident while the normal gun carnage goes on as usual without a peep- today even, there was a maniac driving down the highway shooting at people, killing 2- not a big story in the US- probably because his name was Jeremy. Had he been wearing a turban......... abcnews.go.com/US/dead-apparent-road-rage-shooting-oklahoma-highway/story?id=35819332
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 15:39:44 GMT -5
Within 24 hours of their death, and less than 48 hours after the attack the Federal government told us she was a radical Jhihadist long before she came here in 2014. This tells us that the visa program did not do the proper vetting, as they did not discover any signs of radicalism, but after the fact, our government put it all together. Too little too late. I hope the government bureacrat(s) who rubber stamped the marriage visa sleeps well at night. Our government is responsible for this slaughter. I am sure some posters might want me to change the title of the thread now,to reflect that view, but I am not just quite there yet. This is what Trump is talking about. Stopping SPECIFIC immigration, TEMPORARILY, until the government can assure us they are doing their job. Everyday more Americans are understanding so many government programs are just broken, and not coming close to fulfilling their legal obligations to American citizens. I digressed, because as we all know now this was an attack by radical Islamic jhadists who professed their faith to ISIS. no, he is not talking about stopping SPECIFIC immigration. he is talking about barring all Muslims from entry. please stop repeating that claim. it is false. edit: he has also said the he would stop it "until the problem is solved". when is that? the Fort Hood shooter was born in 1970. it took 39 years before he shot up Fort Hood. so, we are talking at least 40 years, now. at least. probably a lot longer. that sound temporary to you? it doesn't to me. I just put it in with the "I'm going to close Guantanamo if elected" file. He's just getting attention for himself from the biggest liberal super pac in the world, the liberal mainstream media. Don't worry, it'll never happen.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 18, 2015 18:05:29 GMT -5
no, he is not talking about stopping SPECIFIC immigration. he is talking about barring all Muslims from entry. please stop repeating that claim. it is false. edit: he has also said the he would stop it "until the problem is solved". when is that? the Fort Hood shooter was born in 1970. it took 39 years before he shot up Fort Hood. so, we are talking at least 40 years, now. at least. probably a lot longer. that sound temporary to you? it doesn't to me. I just put it in with the "I'm going to close Guantanamo if elected" file. He's just getting attention for himself from the biggest liberal super pac in the world, the liberal mainstream media. Don't worry, it'll never happen. he could do it by just blabbing that out. making a written declaration is way more than attention grab, imo.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 19, 2015 22:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Dec 20, 2015 22:21:38 GMT -5
It's bullshit that you even have to have that shame Dem. It's even worse that almost 15 years later a simple email has the LA school board citing recent "events" as a reason to close every school - just in case. Why? As OC pointed out, there were pictures of schools on the SB attackers phones.
Regardless of if this was the Islamic State or not, they have accomplished their goal of striking fear in the hearts of the infidels and costing them/us loss without lifting a finger. Worse yet, what if they didn't close the schools and an atta..... you know?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 12:17:37 GMT -5
I just put it in with the "I'm going to close Guantanamo if elected" file. He's just getting attention for himself from the biggest liberal super pac in the world, the liberal mainstream media. Don't worry, it'll never happen. he could do it by just blabbing that out. making a written declaration is way more than attention grab, imo. He could be thinking that I'm blabbing out a lot of stuff and need broaden my impact methods. Speculation on my part, but could it be working on you ?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 21, 2015 13:37:16 GMT -5
he could do it by just blabbing that out. making a written declaration is way more than attention grab, imo. He could be thinking that I'm blabbing out a lot of stuff and need broaden my impact methods. Speculation on my part, but could it be working on you ? sure, it got my attention. and not in a good way.
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