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Post by Opti on Sept 23, 2016 14:30:19 GMT -5
Maybe someone can tell me how going to a planned event in Cleveland, Ohio really helps anyone in Charlotte? I wasn't able to find out much about the Midwest Vision & Values Conference as it appears it may have only been from 9AM until 10AM or so. The churches own website didn't turn up much except this-
Michael Cohen of 'Says who?' fame. They are probably blaming his problems with the press on Satan.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 23, 2016 14:45:48 GMT -5
So, this is the Democrat's strategy. Interesting. Obama, Hillary and the rest of their ilk are willing to let Charlotte burn in hopes that the anger and rage will result in black voter turnout for Hillary. In the meantime, Donald Trump calls for unity in the heart of the black communities all across the country. I have made some pretty crazy predictions over the years, but I never would have predicted that the first black President's second term would end with the liberation of the black community from the Democratic party's iron grip by any Republican, let alone Donald J. Trump. We are witnessing a historic shift. We are about to be ONE America united under ONE flag-- it is truly amazing. Doe that church lose its tax-exempt status now?
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Post by Opti on Sept 23, 2016 14:52:03 GMT -5
OT, but I am curious. Is the below common for Evangelical churches?
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 23, 2016 15:13:08 GMT -5
... You're implying I clipped her quote ... My post had nothing to do with you. I had read the quote and commentary about it which insignificantly I see was your commentary. Then I saw a video which included the quote in the middle of much more of her thoughts on the situation. I thought that larger context added a dimension to her views that the shorter didn't show so I found and posted the transcript of what she said. It is what I do. I am not sure what you are referencing with "Didn't we JUST talk about this? Are you now going to make the opposite argument ...". I don't recall making any argument on any side in regards to Twitter.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 15:50:26 GMT -5
Obama, Hillary and the rest of their ilk are willing to let Charlotte burn in hopes that the anger and rage will result in black voter turnout for Hillary.. that makes no sense whatsoever, as a strategy. Trump is the fear candidate. the more afraid we are, the more likely he wins. Clinton HAS to know that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 15:52:49 GMT -5
So, this is the Democrat's strategy. Interesting. We are witnessing a historic shift. We are about to be ONE America united under ONE flag-- it is truly amazing. it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2016 15:55:02 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter is kumbayaing with Donald Trump.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:01:20 GMT -5
Obama, Hillary and the rest of their ilk are willing to let Charlotte burn in hopes that the anger and rage will result in black voter turnout for Hillary.. that makes no sense whatsoever, as a strategy. Trump is the fear candidate. the more afraid we are, the more likely he wins. Clinton HAS to know that. You don't need a tin foil hat to see it. In Charlotte, North Carolina black police officer shoots a black suspect- riots. In Tulsa, Oklahoma a white police officer shoots a black suspect- no riots. The explanation could not be simpler: North Carolina being in play politically for Democrats, Oklahoma is not. So, they send the rent-a-mob to North Carolina for the best return on investment.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:03:47 GMT -5
So, this is the Democrat's strategy. Interesting. We are witnessing a historic shift. We are about to be ONE America united under ONE flag-- it is truly amazing. it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record. It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. We're on the cusp of something truly revolutionary. AMERICANS are coming together, the divisions are melting away. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country- those of us who aren't actually deplorable- who are all finally coming together to take our country back.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 16:03:47 GMT -5
that makes no sense whatsoever, as a strategy. Trump is the fear candidate. the more afraid we are, the more likely he wins. Clinton HAS to know that. You don't need a tin foil hat to see it. In Charlotte, North Carolina black police officer shoots a black suspect- riots. In Tulsa, Oklahoma a white police officer shoots a black suspect- no riots. The explanation could not be simpler: North Carolina being in play politically for Democrats, Oklahoma is not. So, they send the rent-a-mob to North Carolina for the best return on investment. well, that is certainly AN explanation.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 16:04:34 GMT -5
it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record. It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. . well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 23, 2016 16:04:34 GMT -5
... The explanation could not be simpler: ... Video release.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Sept 23, 2016 16:06:02 GMT -5
It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. . well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before. POTD!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:07:44 GMT -5
OT, but I am curious. Is the below common for Evangelical churches?
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No, and it's pretty much why I don't go to any church with "Center" in the name, lol. I mean the doctrine itself is not that far off, but it is not common for it to be an emphasis.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 16:07:58 GMT -5
it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country...... and there will always be 20% on the neo-fascist right, as well (who are, in fact, deplorable). it is up to the sensible 60% in the middle to govern. are you with us?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:10:46 GMT -5
So, this is the Democrat's strategy. Interesting. Obama, Hillary and the rest of their ilk are willing to let Charlotte burn in hopes that the anger and rage will result in black voter turnout for Hillary. In the meantime, Donald Trump calls for unity in the heart of the black communities all across the country. I have made some pretty crazy predictions over the years, but I never would have predicted that the first black President's second term would end with the liberation of the black community from the Democratic party's iron grip by any Republican, let alone Donald J. Trump. We are witnessing a historic shift. We are about to be ONE America united under ONE flag-- it is truly amazing. Doe that church lose its tax-exempt status now? It's not a church service. It's a leadership conference. They probably leased the facilities to the National Diversity Coalition For Trump- note that it's Dr. Scott, not Pastor Scott-- Democrats have been doing this for YEARS; someone finally wised up on the right (not to be stereotypical, but it's a black church so maybe they "converted" and carried the practice over?). It does state that it's a NON-PARTISAN event- the scam there is they probably invited Hillary Clinton and she declined-- that's all you need to do.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:14:04 GMT -5
It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. . well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before. Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 23, 2016 16:18:57 GMT -5
well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before. Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win.we agree on this, as well. (we just disagree about what the contest is)
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Post by Opti on Sept 23, 2016 16:29:56 GMT -5
well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before. Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win. Which is why Priebus, the rnc chair, keeps making excuses for Trump.
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Doe that church lose its tax-exempt status now? It's not a church service. It's a leadership conference. They probably leased the facilities to the National Diversity Coalition For Trump- note that it's Dr. Scott, not Pastor Scott-- Democrats have been doing this for YEARS; someone finally wised up on the right (not to be stereotypical, but it's a black church so maybe they "converted" and carried the practice over?). It does state that it's a NON-PARTISAN event- the scam there is they probably invited Hillary Clinton and she declined-- that's all you need to do. My guess is Clinton wasn't invited as Darrell Scott was a speaker at the RNC. Donald Trump will appear at supporter's Cleveland Heights church for 'town hall' event with Sean Hannity WednesdayCLEVELAND, Ohio -- Donald Trump is slated make yet another trip to Cleveland, and is scheduled to film a "town hall" style event on Wednesday with Fox News personality Sean Hannity at the Cleveland Heights church of a local pastor who has been a visible Trump supporter. The website for the New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, 3130 Mayfield Road, advertises a "Midwest Values and Vision Pastors Leadership Conference" with Trump, hosted by the church's pastor, Rev. Darrell Scott, that will begin at 9 a.m. on Sept. 21. Scott has not returned a message, but he told WKYC's Tom Beres that Trump "will meet with a large statewide group of pastors from 9 a.m. to 10 a.m." The website also advertises a "town hall meeting on African-American concerns" that is scheduled to begin at 10:30 a.m. A Fox News spokeswoman said the meeting will air on Hannity's 10 p.m. show on Wednesday night. While she said the town hall meeting will be closed to other media, the spokeswoman did not immediately know whether members of the general public could attend. Officials with the Trump campaign declined to share additional details about the event. link
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 16:47:35 GMT -5
Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win. Which is why Priebus, the rnc chair, keeps making excuses for Trump.
The GOPe must maintain the illusion of support because their plan is for Trump to lose, but it can't be pinned on them. The plan is for Trump to lose, and for them to say, "See, we tried it your way and it didn't work. We're smart, we're sophisticated, and we know how all of this works. We tried to warn you. Now, we'll be listening to us". You have to recognize what's at stake here: If Trump, the billionaire comes along and successfully self-funds his campaign-- or runs it on small donations-- and ends up winning while spending less than any candidate in recent memory-- a whole bunch of smarty pants six figure consultants suddenly have to go get honest work. They are scared out of their ever lovin' minds.
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Post by Opti on Sept 23, 2016 17:50:41 GMT -5
Which is why Priebus, the rnc chair, keeps making excuses for Trump.
The GOPe must maintain the illusion of support because their plan is for Trump to lose, but it can't be pinned on them. The plan is for Trump to lose, and for them to say, "See, we tried it your way and it didn't work. We're smart, we're sophisticated, and we know how all of this works. We tried to warn you. Now, we'll be listening to us". You have to recognize what's at stake here: If Trump, the billionaire comes along and successfully self-funds his campaign-- or runs it on small donations-- and ends up winning while spending less than any candidate in recent memory-- a whole bunch of smarty pants six figure consultants suddenly have to go get honest work. They are scared out of their ever lovin' minds. We all know the GOP would prefer Trump not be the candidate. I'd need some leaked RNC emails to believe the theory that they are planning for him to lose and more importantly that it would mean more than 'we are glad Trump lost'.
I doubt political consultants are all that worried about losing future income, heck even Trump hired a few to run analytics for him. I'm not sure how repeatable Trump's success in the campaign is. You are basically saying it will take someone with elite $$$ to run a primary campaign lending himself money, etc. ... plus combine that with a way to get the media to give them lots of free press. Its like saying the elite of the elites can spend less money, but how does that help most of the people who run for office?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:55:40 GMT -5
There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country...... and there will always be 20% on the neo-fascist right, as well (who are, in fact, deplorable). it is up to the sensible 60% in the middle to govern.are you with us? What happens when there are only about 3% of "the sensible" "in the middle"... what then?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:57:26 GMT -5
well that is certainly true. i don't ever recall so many GOP members siding with Democrats against a candidate before. Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win. If Trump OR Clinton wins... I predict Americans lose.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 23, 2016 19:43:15 GMT -5
Doe that church lose its tax-exempt status now? It's not a church service. It's a leadership conference. They probably leased the facilities to the National Diversity Coalition For Trump- note that it's Dr. Scott, not Pastor Scott-- Democrats have been doing this for YEARS; someone finally wised up on the right (not to be stereotypical, but it's a black church so maybe they "converted" and carried the practice over?). It does state that it's a NON-PARTISAN event- the scam there is they probably invited Hillary Clinton and she declined-- that's all you need to do. Doubtful. They're fawning all over the orange candidate.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 23, 2016 19:45:29 GMT -5
it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record. It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. We're on the cusp of something truly revolutionary. AMERICANS are coming together, the divisions are melting away. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country- those of us who aren't actually deplorable- who are all finally coming together to take our country back. Lol! Unifying? Half of America loathes Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 20:03:31 GMT -5
It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. We're on the cusp of something truly revolutionary. AMERICANS are coming together, the divisions are melting away. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country- those of us who aren't actually deplorable- who are all finally coming together to take our country back. Lol! Unifying? Half of America loathes Trump. The other half loathes Hillary... Unification in loathing of our candidates!. (and most of us actually loathe BOTH of them)
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 25, 2016 23:58:28 GMT -5
Ha ha. The truth is that the UniParty is out in the open now- exposed by Trump. The election is America vs. the UniParty. I predict Americans win. If Trump OR Clinton wins... I predict Americans lose. an excellent point. the next question being: who deals with losing better?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 0:06:16 GMT -5
i'd be very surprised if he is right. not that i actually care. i don't.
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