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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 1:02:42 GMT -5
If Trump OR Clinton wins... I predict Americans lose. an excellent point. the next question being: who deals with losing better? Between the two candidates? It's a real toss-up. Trump loses his mind... But Hillary quietly seethes and destroys the causes of her loss. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 1:22:13 GMT -5
an excellent point. the next question being: who deals with losing better? Between the two candidates? It's a real toss-up. Trump loses his mind... But Hillary quietly seethes and destroys the causes of her loss. Yeah... I know... I'm quoting myself. Didn't want to make this an "ETA" So... QTA: And in that destruction the "causes" will be the reality of trying to run America. So Hillary, if she follows her pattern when her policies start to fail (which they will), she'll blame America and end up destroying it in her fury over losing. And... Trump's loss of mind will cause him to make stupid and rash decisions... which will result in the, unintentional (I'm sure) but completely predictable, destruction of America. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 1:37:53 GMT -5
Between the two candidates? It's a real toss-up. Trump loses his mind... But Hillary quietly seethes and destroys the causes of her loss. Yeah... I know... I'm quoting myself. Didn't want to make this an "ETA" So... QTA: And in that destruction the "causes" will be the reality of trying to run America. So Hillary, if she follows her pattern when her policies start to fail (which they will), she'll blame America and end up destroying it in her fury over losing. And... Trump's loss of mind will cause him to make stupid and rash decisions... which will result in the, unintentional (I'm sure) but completely predictable, destruction of America. i doubt either candidate will destroy America. i think it is more durable than that. but i certainly have my doubts. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 2:44:05 GMT -5
Yeah... I know... I'm quoting myself. Didn't want to make this an "ETA" So... QTA: And in that destruction the "causes" will be the reality of trying to run America. So Hillary, if she follows her pattern when her policies start to fail (which they will), she'll blame America and end up destroying it in her fury over losing. And... Trump's loss of mind will cause him to make stupid and rash decisions... which will result in the, unintentional (I'm sure) but completely predictable, destruction of America. i doubt either candidate will destroy America. i think it is more durable than that. but i certainly have my doubts. Before Bush II... I would have thought so too... But the last 16 years of incompetent presidents have taken their toll. For the record... when I say "Destruction of America" I don't mean we'll be blasted to atoms. I mean our way of life will be devastated People will be MUCH worse off than they (we) were before. There will be lots of financial chaos. On the bright side... my books, that all start with the line "It's been about 20 years since the collapse of Obamacare, and the financial meltdown that followed it." in the Introduction, should start selling pretty well... |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 26, 2016 7:50:01 GMT -5
it is truly amazing that you could even THINK this is possible with Trump. NOTE: i am not saying that it is possible with Clinton, either, for the record. It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. We're on the cusp of something truly revolutionary. AMERICANS are coming together, the divisions are melting away. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country- those of us who aren't actually deplorable- who are all finally coming together to take our country back. If Trump is such a unifying force, why do so many of us on this board, in a wide range of political leanings, still dislike him and refuse to vote for him?
If you are correct and all of America is suddenly coalescing behind Trump, shouldn't the majority of posters on this board be on the Trump Train with you?
Instead, I see the board, and the country, as nearly evenly divided against two very unpopular candidates. Sadly, I see no unifying forces at all.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 8:00:43 GMT -5
What I'm looking forward to most now is Trump being thrown out of the debate tonight.
I've been thinking about it, and the only way Hillary Clinton makes it through 90 minutes is she doesn't.
It's a HUGE risk, but they have to protect Hillary- and I think they're not only underestimating the backlash-- I don't think they see it. I think they honestly believe that throwing Trump out tonight will destroy his chances and change the momentum for Hillary Clinton. They'll say "rules are rules" and "as President" and "temperament" and "blah, blah, blah"-- they have no idea they're about to not only suffer a massive defeat already-- but I believe there will be a massive shift of "likely voters" into the Trump column nation-wide after tonight's almost inevitable stunt.
I mean what else can they do?
90 minutes.
No coughing breaks.
No "pneumonia" induced "fainting spell" breaks.
It'll go 20 minutes (if they have that long) and they will find a pretext for throwing Trump out.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 8:01:49 GMT -5
If Trump OR Clinton wins... I predict Americans lose. an excellent point. the next question being: who deals with losing better? America lost a long time ago when we permitted the government to levy an income tax and establish a private central bank. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2016 8:24:38 GMT -5
What I'm looking forward to most now is Trump being thrown out of the debate tonight. I've been thinking about it, and the only way Hillary Clinton makes it through 90 minutes is she doesn't. It's a HUGE risk, but they have to protect Hillary- and I think they're not only underestimating the backlash-- I don't think they see it. I think they honestly believe that throwing Trump out tonight will destroy his chances and change the momentum for Hillary Clinton. They'll say "rules are rules" and "as President" and "temperament" and "blah, blah, blah"-- they have no idea they're about to not only suffer a massive defeat already-- but I believe there will be a massive shift of "likely voters" into the Trump column nation-wide after tonight's almost inevitable stunt. I mean what else can they do? 90 minutes. No coughing breaks. No "pneumonia" induced "fainting spell" breaks. It'll go 20 minutes (if they have that long) and they will find a pretext for throwing Trump out. So... do you have it from inside sources Trump doesn't want to debate more than 20 minutes and is looking to get thrown out? Seems like an odd tactic but it would go with his 'the media doesn't like me' stories. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 8:44:12 GMT -5
You are living in Trump's reality. He created this race, he owns it, controls it, and calls all the shots. You're just along for the ride.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 26, 2016 9:10:44 GMT -5
What I'm looking forward to most now is Trump being thrown out of the debate tonight. I've been thinking about it, and the only way Hillary Clinton makes it through 90 minutes is she doesn't. It's a HUGE risk, but they have to protect Hillary- and I think they're not only underestimating the backlash-- I don't think they see it. I think they honestly believe that throwing Trump out tonight will destroy his chances and change the momentum for Hillary Clinton. They'll say "rules are rules" and "as President" and "temperament" and "blah, blah, blah"-- they have no idea they're about to not only suffer a massive defeat already-- but I believe there will be a massive shift of "likely voters" into the Trump column nation-wide after tonight's almost inevitable stunt. I mean what else can they do? 90 minutes. No coughing breaks. No "pneumonia" induced "fainting spell" breaks. It'll go 20 minutes (if they have that long) and they will find a pretext for throwing Trump out. Aren't you the poster that claimed she'd be dead in two weeks - like, three weeks ago?
You realize that Trump started this whole 'weak Hillary' thing because, if he got elected, he would be the oldest POTUS ever elected, and he wanted to get out in front of the whole age thing, so he created the 'Hillary is Dying' PR stunt. Looks like some of his followers took the bait and swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
He's really a consummate marketer. I'll give him that.
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2016 9:17:12 GMT -5
You are living in Trump's reality. He created this race, he owns it, controls it, and calls all the shots. You're just along for the ride. When Reality Turned Inside OutPosted September 15th, 2016 @ 10:49am in #Trump Clinton
blog.dilbert.com/post/150449295541/when-reality-turned-inside-outBy Scott Adams Do you remember way—-way—-way—back in July, when the public thought Trump was the candidate they couldn’t trust with the nuclear arsenal? That was before we realized he could moderate his personality on command, as he is doing now. We’re about to enter our fifth consecutive week of Trump doing more outreach than outrage. It turns out that Trump’s base personality is “winning.” Everything else he does is designed to get that result. He needed to be loud and outrageous in the primaries, so he was. He needs to be presidential in this phase of the election cycle, so he is.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has revealed herself to be frail, medicated, and probably duplicitous about her health. We also hear reports that she’s a drinker with a bad temper. Suddenly, Clinton looks like the unstable personality in this race. Who do you want controlling the nuclear arsenal now? You probably thought Trump was the bigot in this contest, until Clinton called half of Trump’s supporters a “basket of deplorables.” That’s the point at which observers started to see a pattern. Trump has been consistently supportive of American citizens of all types – with the exception of the press and his political opponents. The main targets of Trump’s rhetoric are the nations that compete against us. In stark contrast, Clinton turned her hate on American citizens. That’s the real kind of hate. Trump is more about keeping America safe and competing effectively in the world. That is literally the job of president. I like Scott Adams as a cartoonist, but I think he is fairly off-base in his political views. If Trump's base personality was so winning, he wouldn't be the most disliked Presidential candidate in recent memory. Did Trump need to be loud and obnoxious to win, or is that just what he chose to be? There is no way unfortunately of running alternate scenarios to check that.
Trump is duplicitous about his health. We know nothing. Trump has a bad temper sober, so I'm not sure what RW crap he's reading but I figure I don't want to know. Trump IMO is still the unstable personality in this race and acting nice for even the rest of the race won't change that for me. Even in this supposed more stable Trump time, the guy loves his immediate gratification tweet storms.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bigot, but I am convinced he figured out early on that appealing to nativists was his path to winning. Clinton's "basket" comment IMO was a mistake, however according to Scott Adams I have to ignore the comment about Mexicans because apparently that isn't saying anything bad about Mexican Americans. Or how he is so supportive of American citizens of all types that he is willing to pay legal fees of his supporters when they beat up American citizens who don't support him. So big fail on the rhetoric.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 26, 2016 9:52:02 GMT -5
It's ONLY possible with Trump. Trump is an amazing unifying force. We're on the cusp of something truly revolutionary. AMERICANS are coming together, the divisions are melting away. There will always be that 20% of crazed socialists / communists on the left that won't be happy until they burn the whole thing down but the rest of the country- those of us who aren't actually deplorable- who are all finally coming together to take our country back. If Trump is such a unifying force, why do so many of us on this board, in a wide range of political leanings, still dislike him and refuse to vote for him?
If you are correct and all of America is suddenly coalescing behind Trump, shouldn't the majority of posters on this board be on the Trump Train with you?
Instead, I see the board, and the country, as nearly evenly divided against two very unpopular candidates. Sadly, I see no unifying forces at all.
Happyhixs, Oppps miss spelled that, Sorry I can't resist the temptation to leave it know you live in a small town in the "Hixs"  ( I am jealous) I will start over, Happyhoix, you know that the majority of poster here or leaning or falling off the left, Most of the right have picked out their marbles, quit the game! |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 26, 2016 10:36:17 GMT -5
If Trump is such a unifying force, why do so many of us on this board, in a wide range of political leanings, still dislike him and refuse to vote for him?
If you are correct and all of America is suddenly coalescing behind Trump, shouldn't the majority of posters on this board be on the Trump Train with you?
Instead, I see the board, and the country, as nearly evenly divided against two very unpopular candidates. Sadly, I see no unifying forces at all.
Happyhixs, Oppps miss spelled that, Sorry I can't resist the temptation to leave it know you live in a small town in the "Hixs" ( I am jealous) I will start over, Happyhoix, you know that the majority of poster here or leaning or falling off the left, Most of the right have picked out their marbles, quit the game! We have posters from both ends of the political scale, and a lot from the moderate middle.
My point is that Paul keeps talking about how Trump is some great unifying force and all Americans are rallying around him to this historic sweep on election day. If that is actually the case, there should be lots - or even one - poster on this board that used to be pro-Hillary and is now pro-Trump.
It's very possible I'm wrong, and maybe there are some that did not announce their switch publically on this board, but I'm pretty sure that those posters who were pro-Hillary are still pro-Hillary, and those that are Pro-Trump are still pro-Trump - I haven't noticed any big shifts from one side to the other. No unification at all. In fact, I would call this the most divisive election ever - at least in my recollection - and neither candidate has done well at pulling voters from the other side of the political spectrum.
And yes, I do live in a small town, so HappyHick is probably appropriate (although I do wear shoes)
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 11:43:05 GMT -5
What I'm looking forward to most now is Trump being thrown out of the debate tonight. I've been thinking about it, and the only way Hillary Clinton makes it through 90 minutes is she doesn't.. is this the night she dies from Parkinson's? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 11:43:28 GMT -5
Here's a list of some very good reasons Hillary Clinton is going to lose. It is by no means comprehensive:
1. Modern history doesn't bode well for a non-incumbent seeking a third term for their party. Since WWII, it's only happened once- George H.W. Bush in 1992. However, the exception was very unique- Ronald Reagan won re-election four years earlier in an unprecedented 49-state landslide. It was extremely unlikely the Democrats would successfully unwind the powerful Reagan coalition in four years- and they didn't.
2. The myth of the success and popularity of the Clintons. Outside of the roughly 40% of Democratic party partisans- nobody likes, and nobody has ever really liked the Clintons. Clinton won in 1992 in a three-way race where Ross Perot took 18% of the vote. The final numbers were Clinton 43%, Bush 38%, and Ross Perot 18%. Clinton won again in 1996 with a plurality- he never did win a majority- in 1996 with the results: Clinton 49%, Dole 41%, Perot 8% and Green and Libertarian picking up the crumbs. Clinton fatigue was real- nobody ever really liked the man (or his wife) and he presided over the Republican Revolution of 1994 which began the GOP dominance of Congress. ALL of Clinton's most popular policies were driven by Newt Gingrich & the GOP's "Contract With America"-- the crime bill, welfare reform, capital gains tax cut, and other policies that worked were all conservative GOP policies.
3. The public perception that Hillary got away with a crime. In 1976, Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford because the public perceived (probably correctly) that Richard Nixon got away with crimes because of Ford's pardon, and they decided to punish Ford. The public currently overwhelmingly agrees that Hillary Clinton got away with a crime, and enough Americans view November as not merely an election, but as in 1976- a jury vote. And they will vote to convict Hillary Clinton.
4. Hillary Clinton is running a far left campaign, and liberal campaigns lose 100% of the time. The old "centrist" Hillary that believed in marriage, supported middle class tax cuts, could be trusted not to be a complete Democrat on foreign policy has given way to Trillion-dollar tax increase, compulsory wedding cakes, Jimmy Carter foreign policy Hillary.
5. Hillary Clinton has no compelling vision for the future. Hillary's argument can be summed up as simply as "vote for me, I have a vagina- and plus, it's my turn"- which brings me to:
6. When has it ever gone well for the "it's my turn" candidate? Bob Dole? John McCain? Mitt Romney? and they tried Jeb! who had to be Jeb! instead of Jeb BUSH because America has such disdain for even the appearance of a line of succession.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 11:43:50 GMT -5
an excellent point. the next question being: who deals with losing better? America lost a long time ago when we permitted the government to levy an income tax and establish a private central bank. nice non-answer. want to try again? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 11:47:59 GMT -5
What I'm looking forward to most now is Trump being thrown out of the debate tonight. I've been thinking about it, and the only way Hillary Clinton makes it through 90 minutes is she doesn't.. is this the night she dies from Parkinson's? It could well be. What a horror show. I can't even imagine what they think is at a stake to roll the dice this big? They must have such an incredible cover up going, the corruption must be so deep and so wide that they've got to pull out all the stops for the candidate that knows.... |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 11:49:02 GMT -5
You are living in Trump's reality. He created this race, he owns it, controls it, and calls all the shots. You're just along for the ride. When Reality Turned Inside OutPosted September 15th, 2016 @ 10:49am in #Trump Clinton
blog.dilbert.com/post/150449295541/when-reality-turned-inside-outBy Scott Adams Do you remember way—-way—-way—back in July, when the public thought Trump was the candidate they couldn’t trust with the nuclear arsenal? That was before we realized he could moderate his personality on command, as he is doing now. We’re about to enter our fifth consecutive week of Trump doing more outreach than outrage. It turns out that Trump’s base personality is “winning.” Everything else he does is designed to get that result. He needed to be loud and outrageous in the primaries, so he was. He needs to be presidential in this phase of the election cycle, so he is.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton has revealed herself to be frail, medicated, and probably duplicitous about her health. We also hear reports that she’s a drinker with a bad temper. Suddenly, Clinton looks like the unstable personality in this race. Who do you want controlling the nuclear arsenal now? You probably thought Trump was the bigot in this contest, until Clinton called half of Trump’s supporters a “basket of deplorables.” That’s the point at which observers started to see a pattern. Trump has been consistently supportive of American citizens of all types – with the exception of the press and his political opponents. The main targets of Trump’s rhetoric are the nations that compete against us. In stark contrast, Clinton turned her hate on American citizens. That’s the real kind of hate. Trump is more about keeping America safe and competing effectively in the world. That is literally the job of president. I like Scott Adams as a cartoonist, but I think he is fairly off-base in his political views. If Trump's base personality was so winning, he wouldn't be the most disliked Presidential candidate in recent memory. Did Trump need to be loud and obnoxious to win, or is that just what he chose to be? There is no way unfortunately of running alternate scenarios to check that.
Trump is duplicitous about his health. We know nothing. Trump has a bad temper sober, so I'm not sure what RW crap he's reading but I figure I don't want to know. Trump IMO is still the unstable personality in this race and acting nice for even the rest of the race won't change that for me. Even in this supposed more stable Trump time, the guy loves his immediate gratification tweet storms.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bigot, but I am convinced he figured out early on that appealing to nativists was his path to winning. Clinton's "basket" comment IMO was a mistake, however according to Scott Adams I have to ignore the comment about Mexicans because apparently that isn't saying anything bad about Mexican Americans. Or how he is so supportive of American citizens of all types that he is willing to pay legal fees of his supporters when they beat up American citizens who don't support him. So big fail on the rhetoric.
Scott Adams is a liberal. He is not writing about his views. This is what used to be done often: objective analysis. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 26, 2016 11:51:14 GMT -5
Donald Trump, noted nativist, racist, bigot, and xenophobe, being given the Ellis Island Award in 1989 for contributing to the conditions of inner city black youths, standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks.  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 11:54:53 GMT -5
I like Scott Adams as a cartoonist, but I think he is fairly off-base in his political views. If Trump's base personality was so winning, he wouldn't be the most disliked Presidential candidate in recent memory. Did Trump need to be loud and obnoxious to win, or is that just what he chose to be? There is no way unfortunately of running alternate scenarios to check that.
Trump is duplicitous about his health. We know nothing. Trump has a bad temper sober, so I'm not sure what RW crap he's reading but I figure I don't want to know. Trump IMO is still the unstable personality in this race and acting nice for even the rest of the race won't change that for me. Even in this supposed more stable Trump time, the guy loves his immediate gratification tweet storms.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bigot, but I am convinced he figured out early on that appealing to nativists was his path to winning. Clinton's "basket" comment IMO was a mistake, however according to Scott Adams I have to ignore the comment about Mexicans because apparently that isn't saying anything bad about Mexican Americans. Or how he is so supportive of American citizens of all types that he is willing to pay legal fees of his supporters when they beat up American citizens who don't support him. So big fail on the rhetoric.
Scott Adams is a liberal. He is not writing about his views. This is what used to be done often: objective analysis. i'll go along with analysis, but he is hardly objective, Paul. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 26, 2016 11:55:42 GMT -5
Donald Trump, noted nativist, racist, bigot, and xenophobe, being given the Ellis Island Award in 1989 for contributing to the conditions of inner city black youths, standing alongside Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks. i don't remember him being terribly offensive in 1989. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2016 12:00:06 GMT -5
I like Scott Adams as a cartoonist, but I think he is fairly off-base in his political views. If Trump's base personality was so winning, he wouldn't be the most disliked Presidential candidate in recent memory. Did Trump need to be loud and obnoxious to win, or is that just what he chose to be? There is no way unfortunately of running alternate scenarios to check that.
Trump is duplicitous about his health. We know nothing. Trump has a bad temper sober, so I'm not sure what RW crap he's reading but I figure I don't want to know. Trump IMO is still the unstable personality in this race and acting nice for even the rest of the race won't change that for me. Even in this supposed more stable Trump time, the guy loves his immediate gratification tweet storms.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bigot, but I am convinced he figured out early on that appealing to nativists was his path to winning. Clinton's "basket" comment IMO was a mistake, however according to Scott Adams I have to ignore the comment about Mexicans because apparently that isn't saying anything bad about Mexican Americans. Or how he is so supportive of American citizens of all types that he is willing to pay legal fees of his supporters when they beat up American citizens who don't support him. So big fail on the rhetoric.
Scott Adams is a liberal. He is not writing about his views. This is what used to be done often: objective analysis. He is writing about his views, he officially endorsed Trump this month, but he has apparently been behind him for probably a year or more. He calls himself closest to libertarian.
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In 2007, he suggested that Michael Bloomberg would make a good presidential candidate.[20]
Before the 2008 presidential election he said, "On social issues, I lean Libertarian, minus the crazy stuff",[21] but said in December 2011 that, if he were president, he would do whatever Bill Clinton advised him to do because that "would lead to policies that are a sensible middle ground".[22] On October 17, 2012, he wrote "while I don't agree with Romney's positions on most topics, I'm endorsing him for president".[23]
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2016 12:04:53 GMT -5
I would certainly NOT classify Scott Adams as a liberal. It was eye opening when I started reading Scott Adams on Trump prior to today. The below however is worrying and may explain why he rarely gave Dilbert a good relationship with a female character.
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In March 2011, Adams posted a controversial, widely-discussed blog post where he wrote, "The reality is that women are treated differently by society for exactly the same reason that children and the mentally handicapped are treated differently." He did, however follow that comment with the clarification "I realize I might take some heat for lumping women, children and the mentally handicapped in the same group. So I want to be perfectly clear. I'm not saying women are similar to either group. I'm saying that a man's best strategy for dealing with each group is disturbingly similar".[35][36][37][38]
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 26, 2016 12:22:29 GMT -5
I like Scott Adams as a cartoonist, but I think he is fairly off-base in his political views. If Trump's base personality was so winning, he wouldn't be the most disliked Presidential candidate in recent memory. Did Trump need to be loud and obnoxious to win, or is that just what he chose to be? There is no way unfortunately of running alternate scenarios to check that.
Trump is duplicitous about his health. We know nothing. Trump has a bad temper sober, so I'm not sure what RW crap he's reading but I figure I don't want to know. Trump IMO is still the unstable personality in this race and acting nice for even the rest of the race won't change that for me. Even in this supposed more stable Trump time, the guy loves his immediate gratification tweet storms.
I'm not convinced Trump is a bigot, but I am convinced he figured out early on that appealing to nativists was his path to winning. Clinton's "basket" comment IMO was a mistake, however according to Scott Adams I have to ignore the comment about Mexicans because apparently that isn't saying anything bad about Mexican Americans. Or how he is so supportive of American citizens of all types that he is willing to pay legal fees of his supporters when they beat up American citizens who don't support him. So big fail on the rhetoric.
Scott Adams is a liberal. He is not writing about his views. This is what used to be done often: objective analysis. By what definition of the term 'liberal' is Scott Adams liberal?
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Post by Opti on Sept 26, 2016 14:00:07 GMT -5
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tallguy
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Post by tallguy on Sept 26, 2016 16:24:51 GMT -5
"...ethically compromised to an almost unprecedented degree." Yeah, sounds about right. I had phrased it here earlier along the lines of, "Quite possibly the most fundamentally dishonest person in the country." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 19:43:27 GMT -5
" ...ethically compromised to an almost unprecedented degree." Yeah, sounds about right. I had phrased it here earlier along the lines of, " Quite possibly the most fundamentally dishonest person in the country." Both of those describe both Hillary Clinton AND Donald Trump pretty equally... |
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Post by tallguy on Sept 26, 2016 19:45:58 GMT -5
No they don't. It's not even close.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 19:54:18 GMT -5
No they don't. It's not even close. Yes they do... and yes it is. with Trump being just a SMIDGEON less slimy than Hillary for one simple fact. He's never been an elected official, so all of his sliminess has been on his own personal behalf. Hillary has been a "public servant" for decades now... all of her slime is on our behalf AND with our (well... "the majority", anyway) blessing. |
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