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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 14:39:24 GMT -5
I can't believe I have to explain this, but if the Chicago Tribune publishes an interview with Mr. X and Mr. X says such and such, but the Tribune decides to EDIT that interview in a deceptive way as CNN and CBS did in the cases I cited above and SpaceCoastNews catches them in the act and shows the full, unedited video, or provides a transcript-- the SOURCE is the Tribune and Mr. X, SpaceCoastNews is simply pointing it out. The media omits Bill Clinton's comments about how sick Hillary has been...but adds incendiary words to Trump's statements. They've also been caught Photoshopping Hillary's rallies to make the crowds appear bigger. You're being lied to and misled...and the idea that the "corporate media" isn't in the tank for Democrats is a joke. Oh I get it completely.
Some posters rely heavily on their favorite media sources to make the case for their candidate.
Truly, we should all be omnivores when it comes to media consumption, and avoid reading only the blogs and websites of those media sources that only tell us what we want to hear.
Right?
BULLSHIT. What is the underlying presupposition of throwing out the "but the source!!!" complaint? Is it not that the story is likely not accurate because the source is unreliable? OF course it is, but that flies here ALL THE TIME without a moderator requesting a link. IF you believe this did not happen EXACTLY AS I POSTED IT, you must refute it-- and provide links. Not imply it and slink off. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 14:42:00 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 14:42:51 GMT -5
I disagree. The source is SpaceCoastNews. The reference materials are from the Chicago Tribune. If you have been paying attention the media has also edited out things on Trump's behalf like the creepy comment about Ivanka on Dr. Oz. They edit for their own reasons.
ETA: How does SpaceCoastNews in this example end up with a full unedited video?
moreover, you will forgive us for questioning a source with a reputation for omitting important details. the list of such places are long, but roughly equivalent to the sources used by certain posters here. IF you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 14:44:49 GMT -5
The heart of the matter is this: if you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. Implying a story is inaccurate by implying a source is inaccurate is not a legitimate argument.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2016 15:34:34 GMT -5
The heart of the matter is this: if you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. Implying a story is inaccurate by implying a source is inaccurate is not a legitimate argument. neither is implying a liberal media bias, but you do it all the time. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2016 15:36:09 GMT -5
moreover, you will forgive us for questioning a source with a reputation for omitting important details. the list of such places are long, but roughly equivalent to the sources used by certain posters here. IF you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. i, and others, already have, on MANY occasions. NOTE: i wasn't referring to any specific story, in this case. please stop wasting my time with this rabbit chase. we have been well fed on rabbit stew for the last 5 years. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 21:15:08 GMT -5
IF you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. i, and others, already have, on MANY occasions. NOTE: i wasn't referring to any specific story, in this case. please stop wasting my time with this rabbit chase. we have been well fed on rabbit stew for the last 5 years. Everything I posted about CNN and CBS deliberately editing interviews in a deceptive way is 100% true. There's no innocent explanation for ADDING "RACIAL" to Trump's statement on profiling ala Israel. I'm right, you're all wrong until one of you proves otherwise, it happened exactly as reported. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 21:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 20, 2016 21:30:24 GMT -5
The heart of the matter is this: if you believe the story to be inaccurate, prove it. Implying a story is inaccurate by implying a source is inaccurate is not a legitimate argument. neither is implying a liberal media bias, but you do it all the time. No. I DEMONSTRATE it regularly. As I just did. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 20, 2016 21:59:14 GMT -5
i, and others, already have, on MANY occasions. NOTE: i wasn't referring to any specific story, in this case. please stop wasting my time with this rabbit chase. we have been well fed on rabbit stew for the last 5 years. Everything I posted about CNN and CBS deliberately editing interviews in a deceptive way is 100% true. There's no innocent explanation for ADDING "RACIAL" to Trump's statement on profiling ala Israel. I'm right, you're all wrong until one of you proves otherwise, it happened exactly as reported.   I don't know whether you are right or not, but you need to step away from whatever you are drinking or listening to. We all haven't spoken on this. Therefore you do not know whether we are right, wrong, or somewhere in between.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2016 23:05:52 GMT -5
i, and others, already have, on MANY occasions. NOTE: i wasn't referring to any specific story, in this case. please stop wasting my time with this rabbit chase. we have been well fed on rabbit stew for the last 5 years. Everything I posted about CNN and CBS deliberately editing interviews in a deceptive way is 100% true. There's no innocent explanation for ADDING "RACIAL" to Trump's statement on profiling ala Israel. I'm right, you're all wrong until one of you proves otherwise, it happened exactly as reported. i gave you one counterexample of political bias on this thread already. i could give you many more, but if you won't even acknowledge ONE, what is the point? let's just call your last (bolded) statement a brazen lie for now, and move on to the next one.  |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 21, 2016 7:39:48 GMT -5
Oh I get it completely.
Some posters rely heavily on their favorite media sources to make the case for their candidate.
Truly, we should all be omnivores when it comes to media consumption, and avoid reading only the blogs and websites of those media sources that only tell us what we want to hear.
Right?
BULLSHIT. What is the underlying presupposition of throwing out the "but the source!!!" complaint? Is it not that the story is likely not accurate because the source is unreliable? OF course it is, but that flies here ALL THE TIME without a moderator requesting a link. IF you believe this did not happen EXACTLY AS I POSTED IT, you must refute it-- and provide links. Not imply it and slink off. The media never quotes the entire context of a politician's speech. Obviously. The media summarizes what was said and usually throws in some quotes. This means a lot of stuff gets left out. Or the summary can get biased by the writer. And I don't need to point out to you that both sides photoshop or use pictures from different events - didn't one media source try to post a crowd picture supposedly from a Trump rally that was actually from a sporting event?
That was the point of my post. Other media sources probably left out Clinton's comments about his wife being sick because they didn't see it as any kind of red flag statement - not like Brietbart or Fox would. They summarized Trumps words in another speech as racial because that's how they perceived them - although Fox or Brietbart would not.
This goes on all.the.time from all types of media. This is why it's so very important not to restrict yourself to just a few outlets. You started to get a really warped view of reality. You have to be smart enough to recognize that Mother Jones or Salon will spin the same story (or ignore a story completely) that Fox will spin a completely different way.
You act like we don't know we're being lied to. I am willing to bet everyone on this board is aware of that, but I'm not sure you know that. The places you regularly post links to are very biased media sources. Just because they are biased in a way that you like doesn't make them somehow trustworthy or valid. They are spinning just as hard as Salon and Mother Jones are.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2016 10:10:01 GMT -5
Trump's surging millenial support is no more coincidental than his growing African American support: He is appealing to them and asking for their votes. You would be surprised how many "yes's" you can get when you ASK.
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Post by Opti on Sept 21, 2016 13:07:43 GMT -5
This meme is really tacky. And? It should not have been posted. Taking a less attractive pic of a 92 year old former President and implying things Trump actually thinks about when it comes to his daughter, is below respectful discourse. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2016 14:35:10 GMT -5
It should not have been posted. Taking a less attractive pic of a 92 year old former President and implying things Trump actually thinks about when it comes to his daughter, is below respectful discourse. Your post is a little disjointed. This election must be stressing you out. Come to my kegger on November 8 - 9th.  |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 21, 2016 14:42:04 GMT -5
It was completely irresponsible of Donald Trump to call the explosion in NYC was a bomb over the weekend, and to immediately assume a link to international terrorism before he had all the facts. But you know, it's "steady leadership" to instantly throw the cops under the bus...  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 21, 2016 18:39:43 GMT -5
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I can't believe I have to explain this, but if the Chicago Tribune publishes an interview with Mr. X and Mr. X says such and such, but the Tribune decides to EDIT that interview in a deceptive way as CNN and CBS did in the cases I cited above and SpaceCoastNews catches them in the act and shows the full, unedited video, or provides a transcript-- the SOURCE is the Tribune and Mr. X, SpaceCoastNews is simply pointing it out. The media omits Bill Clinton's comments about how sick Hillary has been...but adds incendiary words to Trump's statements. They've also been caught Photoshopping Hillary's rallies to make the crowds appear bigger. You're being lied to and misled...and the idea that the "corporate media" isn't in the tank for Democrats is a joke. "If you have to explain yourself, you already lost." Your worlds. |
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 21, 2016 19:16:23 GMT -5
It was completely irresponsible of Donald Trump to call the explosion in NYC was a bomb over the weekend, and to immediately assume a link to international terrorism before he had all the facts. But you know, it's "steady leadership" to instantly throw the cops under the bus... Full quote: "There is still much we don’t know about what happened in both incidents, but we do know we have two more names to add to a list of African-Americans killed by police officers in these encounters," she said. "It’s unbearable and it needs to become intolerable."
"We also saw the targeting of police officers last week in Philadelphia," she also said. "And last night in Charlotte, 12 officers were injured during demonstrations."
"Every day police officers across our country are serving with extraordinary courage, honor and skill."
"Our police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right, and they likely saved a lot of lives," she continued. "I’ve spoken to many police chiefs and law enforcement leaders who are as deeply concerned as I am and deeply committed as I am to [police] reform. Why? Because they know it is essential for the safety of our communities and our officers. We are safer when communities respect the police and the police respect the communities." www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/21/hillary_clinton_we_have_two_names_to_add_to_the_long_list_of_african_americans_killed_by_police_unbearable.html |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 21, 2016 21:56:54 GMT -5
It was completely irresponsible of Donald Trump to call the explosion in NYC was a bomb over the weekend, and to immediately assume a link to international terrorism before he had all the facts. But you know, it's "steady leadership" to instantly throw the cops under the bus... Full quote: "There is still much we don’t know about what happened in both incidents, but we do know we have two more names to add to a list of African-Americans killed by police officers in these encounters," she said. "It’s unbearable and it needs to become intolerable."
"We also saw the targeting of police officers last week in Philadelphia," she also said. "And last night in Charlotte, 12 officers were injured during demonstrations."
"Every day police officers across our country are serving with extraordinary courage, honor and skill."
"Our police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right, and they likely saved a lot of lives," she continued. "I’ve spoken to many police chiefs and law enforcement leaders who are as deeply concerned as I am and deeply committed as I am to [police] reform. Why? Because they know it is essential for the safety of our communities and our officers. We are safer when communities respect the police and the police respect the communities." www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/21/hillary_clinton_we_have_two_names_to_add_to_the_long_list_of_african_americans_killed_by_police_unbearable.html LIV's are not interested in context. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 8:32:18 GMT -5
So, this is the Democrat's strategy. Interesting.
Obama, Hillary and the rest of their ilk are willing to let Charlotte burn in hopes that the anger and rage will result in black voter turnout for Hillary.
In the meantime, Donald Trump calls for unity in the heart of the black communities all across the country.
I have made some pretty crazy predictions over the years, but I never would have predicted that the first black President's second term would end with the liberation of the black community from the Democratic party's iron grip by any Republican, let alone Donald J. Trump.
We are witnessing a historic shift.
We are about to be ONE America united under ONE flag-- it is truly amazing.
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Post by Pants on Sept 23, 2016 8:34:20 GMT -5
Well that is certainly an interesting interpretation.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2016 9:18:37 GMT -5
Well that is certainly an interesting interpretation. One must always consider the source. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 23, 2016 13:45:05 GMT -5
It was completely irresponsible of Donald Trump to call the explosion in NYC was a bomb over the weekend, and to immediately assume a link to international terrorism before he had all the facts. But you know, it's "steady leadership" to instantly throw the cops under the bus... Full quote: "There is still much we don’t know about what happened in both incidents, but we do know we have two more names to add to a list of African-Americans killed by police officers in these encounters," she said. "It’s unbearable and it needs to become intolerable."
"We also saw the targeting of police officers last week in Philadelphia," she also said. "And last night in Charlotte, 12 officers were injured during demonstrations."
"Every day police officers across our country are serving with extraordinary courage, honor and skill."
"Our police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right, and they likely saved a lot of lives," she continued. "I’ve spoken to many police chiefs and law enforcement leaders who are as deeply concerned as I am and deeply committed as I am to [police] reform. Why? Because they know it is essential for the safety of our communities and our officers. We are safer when communities respect the police and the police respect the communities." www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/21/hillary_clinton_we_have_two_names_to_add_to_the_long_list_of_african_americans_killed_by_police_unbearable.html You're implying I clipped her quote to make it sound worse?  Didn't we JUST talk about this? Are you now going to make the opposite argument and say that Twitter's limit of 140 characters is a vast right wing conspiracy?  |
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