I was right: President Elect Trump

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

I love the silly argument that having to produce ID in order to vote is "voter suppression". Fraud suppression: yes. Voter suppression? Hardly.

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2016 17:44:02 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 11, 2016 13:25:57 GMT -5 Opti said:

What really won Trump the election, Republican backed voter ID laws that went into effect for a Presidential election for the first time in 14 states.

www.thenation.com/article/the-gops-attack-on-voting-rights-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/

Monster vote no.

Widespread voter suppression yes.

At least a monster vote would have been the actual will of the voters.

Hillary did suppress the vote. Kind of a natural result of letting her steal the nomination. Honestly- if you needed proof Hillary isn't qualified- who the hell has to cheat in a debate with Bernie Sanders?

How did she cheat? Was it like this?

Then, the day before the first presidential debate, Mr. Trump was in a lather again, Ms. Kelly writes. He called Fox executives, saying he’d heard that her first question “was a very pointed question directed at him.” This disconcerted her, because it was true: It was about his history of using disparaging language about women.

She doesn’t speculate where the leak came from. (She reports. You decide.) But that’s another unambiguous takeaway from this book: Parts of Fox — or, at the very least, Roger Ailes, the network’s chairman until July, when he was given the boot after several allegations of sexual harassment were made against him — seemed to be nakedly colluding with the Republican presidential nominee.

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/books/review-megyn-kelly-tells-tales-out-of-fox-news-in-her-memoir-settle-for-more.html?_r=0

I think we the public are going to find that the party leadership has always been about encouraging the candidate they wanted to win and trying to weed out the others. That there has been for a long time media that cozies up to candidates and their campaign. That it happens in both parties.

Perhaps the wise thing to do is just release the questions to the campaign and the public a week before the debate. Field lots of questions from audience members. Publish them. The open the vote to the public during the debate. After a half an hour pick the top ones, and let those be asked.

[toshmanta]

I think Trump's effectiveness is going to stun the politicians in Washington. His energy and work ethic are beyond anyone in politics ability to comprehend. 
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I agree, are you a Young Earth Creationist like me?

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2016 17:47:29 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 11, 2016 14:08:32 GMT -5 Opti said:

Pay very close attention to these next two years. You hopefully will learn what I learned from the W to Obama transition. What the President can affect is much smaller than you'd expect. Congress, the Senate, and the Pentagon have all been existing without the President elect and have their own POVs. And for someone who usually is all about state's rights really how do you envision any President Trump or mythical super Prez to have any meaningful impact on cities at all?

If he wanted to make an inner city better, he should have become a mayor or a governor. The President can only shepherd federal law changes and redistribute some taxpayer wealth to inner cities for policing. Like Obama. Making stop and frisk legal won't make us safer.

I think Trump's effectiveness is going to stun the politicians in Washington. His energy and work ethic are beyond anyone in politics ability to comprehend. Obama, by contrast is a lazy little bitch who never had a job, let alone run a business, where his pay was remotely connected to his performance, productivity, or the success of the project.

I think Trump's lack of effectiveness is going to stun you. This is the federal government. Not a corporate fiefdom. He will need people to agree to work with him to accomplish things. He will be hampered by the fact he will not be able to pick or fire most of them.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

By the way, I have decided to dedicate myself to the cause of zero tolerance for vote fraud. My organization (which I have not decided if we're a PAC or a non-profit yet) aims to ensure the only votes that count are the legal votes of eligible United States citizens. Specifically, we wish to:

1. Ensure that manufactured, or otherwise fraudulent votes are not counted.
2. Ensure that the voter rolls are audited and only contain the names of living persons who reside in the precinct and who are eligible to vote are on the rolls.
3. Restrict the opportunities for voter fraud by:

• Restricting voting to election day
• Drastically curtailing early voting, and making it available ONLY to those persons who are, or who reasonably expect to be absent, working, or otherwise unavailable to vote on election day
• Keeping the absentee ballot in place only for those who swear under penalty of perjury that they will actually be absent on election day, but eliminating "vote by mail" altogether and
• Ending ALL government issued forms of ID to illegal aliens
• REQUIRING government issued ID be presented which contains the voter's name, address which matches that on the voter rolls, and a FINGERPRINT, NOT a "signature" verification and 
• Innovating ways for the public to audit / double check election officials in all precincts-- for example, electronically counting the number of people who enter a polling place with the grand total of the vote count and making the vote totals publicly available and searchable in real time in any precinct. And I say this because it bothers me that it's 11/11 and we don't have votes in how many precincts counted? Bullshit. They're manufacturing votes. They're finding ballots in the trunk of Al Franken's car. They're counting the dead. It is absolute and complete horseshit that we don't have a count right now.

3. Enact harsh penalties for involvement in disenfranchising eligible voters through fraud. We would like to see convicted felons like the DNC / Hillary Clinton systematic vote fraud coordinator Robert Creamer do at least 10 years in prison followed by a lifetime of ineligibility to vote; and the penalties doubled for any illegal alien, or persons aiding and abetting illegal aliens to vote.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Nov 11, 2016 18:16:15 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 11, 2016 17:47:29 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

I think Trump's effectiveness is going to stun the politicians in Washington. His energy and work ethic are beyond anyone in politics ability to comprehend. Obama, by contrast is a lazy little bitch who never had a job, let alone run a business, where his pay was remotely connected to his performance, productivity, or the success of the project.

I think Trump's lack of effectiveness is going to stun you. This is the federal government. Not a corporate fiefdom. He will need people to agree to work with him to accomplish things. He will be hampered by the fact he will not be able to pick or fire most of them.

Watch and learn.

[Tennesseer]

Nov 11, 2016 18:17:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

By the way, I have decided to dedicate myself to the cause of zero tolerance for vote fraud. My organization (which I have not decided if we're a PAC or a non-profit yet) aims to ensure the only votes that count are the legal votes of eligible United States citizens. Specifically, we wish to:

1. Ensure that manufactured, or otherwise fraudulent votes are not counted.
2. Ensure that the voter rolls are audited and only contain the names of living persons who reside in the precinct and who are eligible to vote are on the rolls.
3. Restrict the opportunities for voter fraud by:

• Restricting voting to election day
• Drastically curtailing early voting, and making it available ONLY to those persons who are, or who reasonably expect to be absent, working, or otherwise unavailable to vote on election day
• Keeping the absentee ballot in place only for those who swear under penalty of perjury that they will actually be absent on election day, but eliminating "vote by mail" altogether and
• Ending ALL government issued forms of ID to illegal aliens
• REQUIRING government issued ID be presented which contains the voter's name, address which matches that on the voter rolls, and a FINGERPRINT, NOT a "signature" verification and 
• Innovating ways for the public to audit / double check election officials in all precincts-- for example, electronically counting the number of people who enter a polling place with the grand total of the vote count and making the vote totals publicly available and searchable in real time in any precinct. And I say this because it bothers me that it's 11/11 and we don't have votes in how many precincts counted? Bullshit. They're manufacturing votes. They're finding ballots in the trunk of Al Franken's car. They're counting the dead. It is absolute and complete horseshit that we don't have a count right now.

3. Enact harsh penalties for involvement in disenfranchising eligible voters through fraud. We would like to see convicted felons like the DNC / Hillary Clinton systematic vote fraud coordinator Robert Creamer do at least 10 years in prison followed by a lifetime of ineligibility to vote; and the penalties doubled for any illegal alien, or persons aiding and abetting illegal aliens to vote.

Good friggin luck. I am sure it will be as successful as your blog was where you predicted Trump would win all 50 states.

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2016 18:17:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

By the way, I have decided to dedicate myself to the cause of zero tolerance for vote fraud. My organization (which I have not decided if we're a PAC or a non-profit yet) aims to ensure the only votes that count are the legal votes of eligible United States citizens. Specifically, we wish to:

1. Ensure that manufactured, or otherwise fraudulent votes are not counted.
2. Ensure that the voter rolls are audited and only contain the names of living persons who reside in the precinct and who are eligible to vote are on the rolls.
3. Restrict the opportunities for voter fraud by:

• Restricting voting to election day
• Drastically curtailing early voting, and making it available ONLY to those persons who are, or who reasonably expect to be absent, working, or otherwise unavailable to vote on election day
• Keeping the absentee ballot in place only for those who swear under penalty of perjury that they will actually be absent on election day, but eliminating "vote by mail" altogether and
• Ending ALL government issued forms of ID to illegal aliens
• REQUIRING government issued ID be presented which contains the voter's name, address which matches that on the voter rolls, and a FINGERPRINT, NOT a "signature" verification and 
• Innovating ways for the public to audit / double check election officials in all precincts-- for example, electronically counting the number of people who enter a polling place with the grand total of the vote count and making the vote totals publicly available and searchable in real time in any precinct. And I say this because it bothers me that it's 11/11 and we don't have votes in how many precincts counted? Bullshit. They're manufacturing votes. They're finding ballots in the trunk of Al Franken's car. They're counting the dead. It is absolute and complete horseshit that we don't have a count right now.

3. Enact harsh penalties for involvement in disenfranchising eligible voters through fraud. We would like to see convicted felons like the DNC / Hillary Clinton systematic vote fraud coordinator Robert Creamer do at least 10 years in prison followed by a lifetime of ineligibility to vote; and the penalties doubled for any illegal alien, or persons aiding and abetting illegal aliens to vote.

Such a waste of money for such a small problem. There are however problems with illegal voters in Florida.

Those you might want to go after.

If Creamer can be proved to have committed fraud by all means convict using the laws on the books. OKeefe is a shyster with a camera. I don't trust anything he puts out.

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2016 18:32:11 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Nov 11, 2016 18:17:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

By the way, I have decided to dedicate myself to the cause of zero tolerance for vote fraud. My organization (which I have not decided if we're a PAC or a non-profit yet) aims to ensure the only votes that count are the legal votes of eligible United States citizens. Specifically, we wish to:

1. Ensure that manufactured, or otherwise fraudulent votes are not counted.
2. Ensure that the voter rolls are audited and only contain the names of living persons who reside in the precinct and who are eligible to vote are on the rolls.
3. Restrict the opportunities for voter fraud by:

• Restricting voting to election day
• Drastically curtailing early voting, and making it available ONLY to those persons who are, or who reasonably expect to be absent, working, or otherwise unavailable to vote on election day
• Keeping the absentee ballot in place only for those who swear under penalty of perjury that they will actually be absent on election day, but eliminating "vote by mail" altogether and
• Ending ALL government issued forms of ID to illegal aliens
• REQUIRING government issued ID be presented which contains the voter's name, address which matches that on the voter rolls, and a FINGERPRINT, NOT a "signature" verification and 
• Innovating ways for the public to audit / double check election officials in all precincts-- for example, electronically counting the number of people who enter a polling place with the grand total of the vote count and making the vote totals publicly available and searchable in real time in any precinct. And I say this because it bothers me that it's 11/11 and we don't have votes in how many precincts counted? Bullshit. They're manufacturing votes. They're finding ballots in the trunk of Al Franken's car. They're counting the dead. It is absolute and complete horseshit that we don't have a count right now.

3. Enact harsh penalties for involvement in disenfranchising eligible voters through fraud. We would like to see convicted felons like the DNC / Hillary Clinton systematic vote fraud coordinator Robert Creamer do at least 10 years in prison followed by a lifetime of ineligibility to vote; and the penalties doubled for any illegal alien, or persons aiding and abetting illegal aliens to vote.

Good friggin luck. I am sure it will be as successful as your blog was where you predicted Trump would win all 50 states.

I'm hoping he starts in Florida. In one thread it was shown that there is a problem of illegal voters in Florida. If he really cared to fix the problem he'd go for saner and more cost effective measures. Currently no state anywhere stores citizenship information with its voter rolls.

Electronically counting people who enter and leave is a low value idea IMO. That number is not going to map easily to the voter number. Parents come in the children, patients from the rehab had their family take them in wheelchairs to vote. And then there's the numerous errors from people dancing around the sensor.

Bummer. Tried to find a story on notalwaysright.com It was about a guy he danced in front of a sensor counting customers basically making the store appear unprofitable that month.

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2016 18:19:52 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Nov 11, 2016 18:16:15 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think Trump's lack of effectiveness is going to stun you. This is the federal government. Not a corporate fiefdom. He will need people to agree to work with him to accomplish things. He will be hampered by the fact he will not be able to pick or fire most of them.

Watch and learn.

Ditto.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Prebus & Bannon- there's an odd couple. This is going to be more fun than I thought.