I was right: President Elect Trump

[djAdvocate]

Aug 30, 2015 18:40:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Aug 30, 2015 13:46:02 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

The voter that Trump isn't going to get is the legal citizen of parents that came here illegally. Or the now legal citizen that originally came here illegally. Does he need those people to win, that's the question. You'd have to do a lot of state by state analysis to figure that out. California has a huge immigrant population, both legal and illegal. He can totally afford to write the state off though. It's going Dem, and it awards electorates on a winner take all system. He could piss on the California flag and talk about selling the state back to Mexico and it wouldn't cost him a single electoral vote.

Arizona and Texas, two other states with huge immigrant populations are going Pub. I believe they're also winner take all states. He doesn't have to worry about a Dem taking them even if he angers their immigrants. Not sure on New Mexico. What I'm saying is, if you go state by state he might be fine even if he's unpopular with immigrants. Most of the states are going to go one way or the other. He just has to win the nomination in order to lock up those electoral votes. The swing states are where it matters, particularly Florida, but my sense is most Floridians care more about Cuban immigration than issues on the US/Mexico border.

They used to worry about the Cubans.  They are pretty much assimilated into the state, even through marriage of second generation, etc.

most Cubans that live here are anti-Castro and reliably REPUBLICAN.  who was "worried"?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

As it turns out, RedState banned the two GOP front runners from their event.  Talk about egg on your face- it really is bad because Trump didn't lose points in the polling, Carson gained them.  With 23% each, that's two of the 17 candidates polling 56%.  Little Jebby is tied for 5th with Rubio-- www.saintpetersblog.com/archives/238948


video.foxnews.com/v/4454732964001/trump-carson-tied-for-lead-in-new-gop-iowa-poll/?#sp=show-clips

[djAdvocate]

Aug 31, 2015 15:44:38 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

As it turns out, RedState banned the two GOP front runners from their event.  Talk about egg on your face- it really is bad because Trump didn't lose points in the polling, Carson gained them.  With 23% each, that's two of the 17 candidates polling 56%. 

46%

[marvholly]

At least Trump & Fiorina have management experience (good or bad-your personal opinion). Carson has NOTHING.

[Shooby]

Except a giant brain.

[Shooby]

Trump and Fiorina scream COMPETENCE. Something that has been sorely lacking the White House for 6 yrs.

[Deleted]

Trump screams competence? Do you mean like literally screams the word ? Because otherwise...

[Shooby]

He's gets schit done.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Aug 31, 2015 17:02:03 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Aug 31, 2015 15:44:38 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

As it turns out, RedState banned the two GOP front runners from their event.  Talk about egg on your face- it really is bad because Trump didn't lose points in the polling, Carson gained them.  With 23% each, that's two of the 17 candidates polling 56%. 

46%

That's what I meant. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 1, 2015 6:47:30 GMT -5 marvholly said:

At least Trump & Fiorina have management experience (good or bad-your personal opinion). Carson has NOTHING.

Yeah, I mean Dr. Carson only served as the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Children's Center for 29 years.  I mean, what kind of a slouch has career highlights such as the first successful separation of craniopagus (Siamese) twins joined at the back of the head in 1987, the first completely successful separation of type-2 vertical craniopagus twins in 1997 in South Africa, and the first successful placement of an intrauterine shunt for a hydrocephalic twin.

In 2001, Dr. Carson was named by CNN and TIME Magazine as one of the nation’s 20 foremost physicians and scientists. That same year, he was selected by the Library of Congress as one of 89 “Living Legends.”

He is also the recipient of the 2006 Spingarn Medal, the highest honor bestowed by the NAACP. In June, 2008, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bush, the highest civilian honor in the land.

Dr. Carson holds 67 honorary doctorate degrees. He is a member of the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society, the Institute of Medicine/National Academy of Science, the Horatio Alger Society of Distinguished Americans, and many other organizations.

He sat on the board of directors of numerous entities, including Kellogg Company, Costco Wholesale Corporation, the Academy of Achievement, and is an Emeritus Fellow of the Yale Corporation, the governing body of Yale University.

I would have liked him better, I will grant you, if he'd had some truly private sector executive level experience-- but NOTHING Bit of a stretch.

[Deleted]

I would have given Carson kudos for bring a competent medical professional... However I'm not sure how he made it through Biology forwarding the notion that evolution teaches someone came from a monkey... I have no fath in leadership that rejects and misrepresents science, science integral to his work, in that manner.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 1, 2015 7:23:09 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 1, 2015 6:47:30 GMT -5 marvholly said:

At least Trump & Fiorina have management experience (good or bad-your personal opinion). Carson has NOTHING.

Yeah, I mean Dr. Carson only served as the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Children's Center for 29 years.  I mean, what kind of a slouch has career highlights such as the first successful separation of craniopagus (Siamese) twins joined at the back of the head in 1987, the first completely successful separation of type-2 vertical craniopagus twins in 1997 in South Africa, and the first successful placement of an intrauterine shunt for a hydrocephalic twin.

In 2001, Dr. Carson was named by CNN and TIME Magazine as one of the nation’s 20 foremost physicians and scientists. That same year, he was selected by the Library of Congress as one of 89 “Living Legends.”

He is also the recipient of the 2006 Spingarn Medal, the highest honor bestowed by the NAACP. In June, 2008, he was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bush, the highest civilian honor in the land.

Dr. Carson holds 67 honorary doctorate degrees. He is a member of the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society, the Institute of Medicine/National Academy of Science, the Horatio Alger Society of Distinguished Americans, and many other organizations.

He sat on the board of directors of numerous entities, including Kellogg Company, Costco Wholesale Corporation, the Academy of Achievement, and is an Emeritus Fellow of the Yale Corporation, the governing body of Yale University.

I would have liked him better, I will grant you, if he'd had some truly private sector executive level experience-- but NOTHING Bit of a stretch.

Someone is posting word-for-word information without giving credit to his source. Here is one site with some of the same word-for-word, sentence-for-sentence information.

Bio-Ben Carson

[Value Buy]

Sept 1, 2015 6:47:30 GMT -5 marvholly said:

At least Trump & Fiorina have management experience (good or bad-your personal opinion). Carson has NOTHING.

WOW.
This from you?
Carson was a brain surgeon.
Why is he so liked by people who hear him in person?
He knows how to talk intelligently to you, in a very human way.

He makes you a believer, and I imagine it comes from pre-surgery talk to his patient and family where he explains what he and his team are about to do in the operating room.
We elected a community organizer who organized rallies and was a swift talker too.
Now that we have an actual brain surgeon running, who organized his team and accomplished some miracles, but that is not good enough.

IMO, like Trump, he is not even a Republican, but has no where else to state his case other than within this party. He certainly could not do it as a Democrat.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 1, 2015 7:30:40 GMT -5 oped said:

I would have given Carson kudos for bring a competent medical professional... However I'm not sure how he made it through Biology forwarding the notion that evolution teaches someone came from a monkey... I have no fath in leadership that rejects and misrepresents science, science integral to his work, in that manner.

I love the "we never said that" defense.  It's my favorite secular humanist deflection.  Charles Darwin, the author and finisher of the theory of evolution, and his pivotal work, "The Origin of Species" for your review- you don't have to get beyond the cover art.

[Deleted]

6th edition.

Now I understand better Paul's love of the sensationalist headline... He never really gets past the cover.

[tallguy]

Trump and Fiorina scream COMPETENCE. Something that has been sorely lacking the White House for 6 yrs.

He's gets schit done.

First, you cannot be seriously suggesting that competence existed during the eight years previous, can you?

And second, how can you think that the man is a financial or business wizard?  Even if his net worth is what he claims (at the probably inflated value) it is still far less than he would have if he had just taken the money from his father and stuck it in an index fund.  And he STILL could have funded a playboy lifestyle and gone around divorcing models.  He just would have avoided the multiple bankruptcies....

[djAdvocate]

Sept 1, 2015 7:00:01 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Except a giant brain.

and a wee wee.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 1, 2015 9:16:51 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Trump and Fiorina scream COMPETENCE. Something that has been sorely lacking the White House for 6 yrs.

He's gets schit done.

First, you cannot be seriously suggesting that competence existed during the eight years previous, can you?

And second, how can you think that the man is a financial or business wizard?  Even if his net worth is what he claims (at the probably inflated value) it is still far less than he would have if he had just taken the money from his father and stuck it in an index fund.  And he STILL could have funded a playboy lifestyle and gone around divorcing models.  He just would have avoided the multiple bankruptcies....

Interesting. I've often wondered if I should just cash out of my houses and put the money in the market? I don't know what I'd actually DO if I did. I like the real estate game- I suspect Trump does, too. Sometimes people simply prefer what they know. There may be a lot of better, easier, etc ways to make money or increase wealth- but a person is going to do what they know. I don't fault him for choosing real estate investments.

I'll leave Trump and the experts to fight about how to value his assets. I happen to thing Forbes underestimated "Trump" as a brand, but whatever.

Trump is definitely competent, he definitely gets things done. The only question holding Trump back from 60% in the polls right now is one word: Trust. The minute people think they can trust Trump to be reliably conservative, the primary is over. I think there are some reasons to think he may be a good president, but that question of whether or not he'll flip flop on important issues is concerning to me- and probably every other Republican primary watcher right now. If I thought Trump would follow through on any two of the things he has outlined- I'd consider voting for him.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 1, 2015 8:47:56 GMT -5 oped said:

6th edition.

Now I understand better Paul's love of the sensationalist headline... He never really gets past the cover.

Did Carson make his comments before or after the publication of the 6th edition?  Look, this is another one of those idiotic, going nowhere arguments.  The idea that the theory of evolution does not assume that man evolved from ape-like creatures is not credible.  

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Trump hits Jeb with what I like to call a "non-retractable"-- one of those ads that is so hard-hitting that the candidate that ran it can never go back and "support the nominee" later.  It's a nuclear strike:

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Another non-controversial, fairly obvious observation blown up by the kooks on the left as a major offense- because it's against the "rules" to discuss it. You know what the real outrage is? The real outrage is that we have a secretary of state with a private email server kept in a bathroom in Colorado whose closest confidant is an Iranian married to a totally morally compromised pervert.  I think we've reached the point where obvious truth is a novelty.  People find it refreshing.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Sept 1, 2015 13:17:37 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Sept 1, 2015 13:04:25 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Interesting. I've often wondered if I should just cash out of my houses and put the money in the market? I don't know what I'd actually DO if I did. I like the real estate game- I suspect Trump does, too. Sometimes people simply prefer what they know. There may be a lot of better, easier, etc ways to make money or increase wealth- but a person is going to do what they know. I don't fault him for choosing real estate investments.

I'll leave Trump and the experts to fight about how to value his assets. I happen to thing Forbes underestimated "Trump" as a brand, but whatever.

Trump is definitely competent, he definitely gets things done. The only question holding Trump back from 60% in the polls right now is one word: Trust. The minute people think they can trust Trump to be reliably conservative, the primary is over. I think there are some reasons to think he may be a good president, but that question of whether or not he'll flip flop on important issues is concerning to me- and probably every other Republican primary watcher right now. If I thought Trump would follow through on any two of the things he has outlined- I'd consider voting for him.

Just responding to the first part of your post- I think people should concentrate on what they do well.  I don't think the markets are necessarily easier.  You don't work, the money does- yeah, I know.  But you do work.  You study all of those stacks, funds, market trends, etc., etc.  Zzzzz

Not only is it boring, but you don't know it.  Unlike what you do know, be it real estate, restaurants or widgets. 

I have some money in the market, and I have a competent advisor.  It has done OK through a couple of tough period, but I am not overly impressed.  I have certainly done better with both RE and my business.  Which makes sense, really.

My problem is that I worry about it.  Granted, real estate is not without risk.  Odds are probably a lot better that one of my houses will burn to the ground, but for some reason I don't worry about that as much as I do the relatively low risk that the market will implode.  I'm totally irrational on this, I know.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 1, 2015 13:04:25 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 1, 2015 9:16:51 GMT -5 tallguy said:

First, you cannot be seriously suggesting that competence existed during the eight years previous, can you?

And second, how can you think that the man is a financial or business wizard?  Even if his net worth is what he claims (at the probably inflated value) it is still far less than he would have if he had just taken the money from his father and stuck it in an index fund.  And he STILL could have funded a playboy lifestyle and gone around divorcing models.  He just would have avoided the multiple bankruptcies....

Interesting. I've often wondered if I should just cash out of my houses and put the money in the market? I don't know what I'd actually DO if I did. I like the real estate game- I suspect Trump does, too. Sometimes people simply prefer what they know. There may be a lot of better, easier, etc ways to make money or increase wealth- but a person is going to do what they know. I don't fault him for choosing real estate investments.

I'll leave Trump and the experts to fight about how to value his assets. I happen to thing Forbes underestimated "Trump" as a brand, but whatever.

Trump is definitely competent, he definitely gets things done. The only question holding Trump back from 60% in the polls right now is one word: Trust. The minute people think they can trust Trump to be reliably conservative, the primary is over. I think there are some reasons to think he may be a good president, but that question of whether or not he'll flip flop on important issues is concerning to me- and probably every other Republican primary watcher right now. If I thought Trump would follow through on any two of the things he has outlined- I'd consider voting for him.

i think that Trump proving that he is RELIABLE is the key.  RELIABLY ANYTHING, other than loud, self aggrandizing, and confident.

[djAdvocate]

Sept 1, 2015 13:13:35 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Another non-controversial, fairly obvious observation blown up by the kooks on the left as a major offense- because it's against the "rules" to discuss it. You know what the real outrage is? The real outrage is that we have a secretary of state with a private email server kept in a bathroom in Colorado whose closest confidant is an Iranian married to a totally morally compromised pervert.  I think we've reached the point where obvious truth is a novelty.  People find it refreshing.

the truth was a novelty when Bush's daddy was cuddling up to the Bin Laden family prior to 911, as well.

Democrats do not have a monopoly on sleaze and corruption.

[Deleted]

Sept 1, 2015 13:06:04 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Sept 1, 2015 8:47:56 GMT -5 oped said:

6th edition.

Now I understand better Paul's love of the sensationalist headline... He never really gets past the cover.

Did Carson make his comments before or after the publication of the 6th edition?  Look, this is another one of those idiotic, going nowhere arguments.  The idea that the theory of evolution does not assume that man evolved from ape-like creatures is not credible.  

You have never actually read it

[weltschmerz]

Sept 1, 2015 8:10:31 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sept 1, 2015 6:47:30 GMT -5 marvholly said:

At least Trump & Fiorina have management experience (good or bad-your personal opinion). Carson has NOTHING.

WOW.
This from you?
Carson was a brain surgeon.
Why is he so liked by people who hear him in person?
He knows how to talk intelligently to you, in a very human way.

He makes you a believer, and I imagine it comes from pre-surgery talk to his patient and family where he explains what he and his team are about to do in the operating room.
We elected a community organizer who organized rallies and was a swift talker too.
Now that we have an actual brain surgeon running, who organized his team and accomplished some miracles, but that is not good enough.

IMO, like Trump, he is not even a Republican, but has no where else to state his case other than within this party. He certainly could not do it as a Democrat.

My niece is a pediatric brain surgeon. It doesn't mean she'd make a good POTUS.

[tallguy]

Our new poll finds that Trump is benefiting from a GOP electorate that thinks Barack Obama is a Muslim and was born in another country, and that immigrant children should be deported. 66% of Trump's supporters believe that Obama is a Muslim to just 12% that grant he's a Christian. 61% think Obama was not born in the United States to only 21% who accept that he was. And 63% want to amend the Constitution to eliminate birthright citizenship, to only 20% who want to keep things the way they are.

Trump's beliefs represent the consensus among the GOP electorate. 51% overall want to eliminate birthright citizenship. 54% think President Obama is a Muslim. And only 29% grant that President Obama was born in the United States. That's less than the 40% who think Canadian born Ted Cruz was born in the United States.

publicpolicypolling

I wonder what the numbers would look like for the candidates if those polled had to pass an IQ test to have their opinions registered.  

[marvholly]

Sept 1, 2015 7:00:15 GMT -5 Shooby said:

Trump and Fiorina scream COMPETENCE. Something that has been sorely lacking the White House for 6 yrs.

Not so sure about that. both have TONS of bad business decisions & outcomes on their resumes.

[Shooby]

Oh, as compared to Hillary! LMAO!!!!!!!!

[djAdvocate]

Sept 2, 2015 1:27:48 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Our new poll finds that Trump is benefiting from a GOP electorate that thinks Barack Obama is a Muslim and was born in another country, and that immigrant children should be deported. 66% of Trump's supporters believe that Obama is a Muslim to just 12% that grant he's a Christian. 61% think Obama was not born in the United States to only 21% who accept that he was. And 63% want to amend the Constitution to eliminate birthright citizenship, to only 20% who want to keep things the way they are.

Trump's beliefs represent the consensus among the GOP electorate. 51% overall want to eliminate birthright citizenship. 54% think President Obama is a Muslim. And only 29% grant that President Obama was born in the United States. That's less than the 40% who think Canadian born Ted Cruz was born in the United States.

publicpolicypolling

I wonder what the numbers would look like for the candidates if those polled had to pass an IQ test to have their opinions registered.  

i wonder how these questions would poll outside of the FOX/GOP continuum.  actually, i don't wonder.  i know: pretty much the opposite.