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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 2, 2015 10:12:34 GMT -5
Trump and Fiorina scream COMPETENCE. Something that has been sorely lacking the White House for 6 yrs. Not so sure about that. both have TONS of bad business decisions & outcomes on their resumes. moreover, they have tons of things on their resume which undermine their populist cred. it is going to be tough for them to hide that. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 9, 2015 8:24:14 GMT -5
As usual, you don't post the full article title. I won't bother with the first part of the article title but your bolded 'Every Democrat Trails Trump' is missing the rest of the sentence which reads Every Democrat Trails Trump, Though Narrowly: Do you really think posters are not going to open your links and not notice your intentional omissions? |
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 9, 2015 8:27:24 GMT -5
As usual, you don't post the full article title. I won't bother with the first part of the article title but your bolded 'Every Democrat Trails Trump' is missing the rest of the sentence which reads Every Democrat Trails Trump, Though Narrowly: Do you really think posters are not going to open your links and not notice your intentional omissions? Still, they trailed........ I am more concerned about the 25% African American claim. No time to open a link, but gosh darn, that is what is hard to believe, imo |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 9, 2015 8:38:15 GMT -5
As usual, you don't post the full article title. I won't bother with the first part of the article title but your bolded 'Every Democrat Trails Trump' is missing the rest of the sentence which reads Every Democrat Trails Trump, Though Narrowly: Do you really think posters are not going to open your links and not notice your intentional omissions? Still, they trailed........ I am more concerned about the 25% African American claim. No time to open a link, but gosh darn, that is what is hard to believe, imo Feel free to hang your star on a poster known for not telling the truth countless times, omits information to make a baseless point, and makes up facts that cannot be supported with the truth. Some African-Americans are no different than some white people. Both can be attracted to shiny pennies. It maybe be currency but it doesn't by a thing by itself today. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 9, 2015 10:15:57 GMT -5
two things: 1) this survey had an unusual amount of undecided vote (about 15%). neither Trump NOR the other candidates got anywhere near 50% 2) Trump hasn't said anything stupid about blacks yet. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 9, 2015 11:14:01 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why the press likes him so much. I wonder how easy it is going to be to top Bing Bing Bong Bong.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 9, 2015 11:18:02 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why the press likes him so much. I wonder how easy it is going to be to top Bing Bing Bong Bong. here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? |
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 9, 2015 11:24:31 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why the press likes him so much. I wonder how easy it is going to be to top Bing Bing Bong Bong. here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? Nah. I get bored pretty quickly when the grandfather clock does it. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 9, 2015 11:31:09 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why the press likes him so much. I wonder how easy it is going to be to top Bing Bing Bong Bong. here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? No. But it is remarkably odd. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 9, 2015 11:32:06 GMT -5
here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? No. But it is remarkably odd. and entertaining. |
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Post by Opti on Sept 9, 2015 11:33:41 GMT -5
here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? Nah. I get bored pretty quickly when the grandfather clock does it. But that does not come with the robotic hand motions.   |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 9, 2015 13:44:04 GMT -5
i agree with the analysis, but i FERVENTLY disagree with THIS conclusion:
The bottom line is to ignore all polling. Be vocal in your opinions, and get out and vote. If you do, then without a question we will once again have a Democrat as President of the United States. NO! don't ignore the polling! this is a warning shot. this poll says that a Trump presidency is POSSIBLE without activism, without thoughtful analysis, and without informing the voters. take heed. ignoring this is WAY more of a danger than celebrating it. after all, the only people celebrating are those that really want it to happen. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 9, 2015 15:35:41 GMT -5
i agree with the analysis, but i FERVENTLY disagree with THIS conclusion:
The bottom line is to ignore all polling. Be vocal in your opinions, and get out and vote. If you do, then without a question we will once again have a Democrat as President of the United States. NO! don't ignore the polling! this is a warning shot. this poll says that a Trump presidency is POSSIBLE without activism, without thoughtful analysis, and without informing the voters. take heed. ignoring this is WAY more of a danger than celebrating it. after all, the only people celebrating are those that really want it to happen. Unfortunately, I am not the author of the article so I couldn't edit out the last line. I agree with you about not ignoring polls. Just ignore this one. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 9, 2015 21:46:41 GMT -5
What you cannot argue with is that Trump's turnaround in the polls is absolutely stunning. It is not something you see happen that often. In fact, the last time I can remember even hearing about a national candidate doing it was when Reagan's people met with the Christian coalition and Reagan went from 5 points down to 5 points up in 30 days. Interestingly-- the Cruz people are doing the same thing-- meeting with pastors. Cruz of course (I know- maybe I'll start a thread on it) already upset an entrenched establishment candidate-- Dewhurst. He beat the crap out of that m'f'er from nowhere. I'm wondering if he can do something similar on the national stage?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 10, 2015 9:55:19 GMT -5
What you cannot argue with is that Trump's turnaround in the polls is absolutely stunning. It is not something you see happen that often. In fact, the last time I can remember even hearing about a national candidate doing it was when Reagan's people met with the Christian coalition and Reagan went from 5 points down to 5 points up in 30 days. Interestingly-- the Cruz people are doing the same thing-- meeting with pastors. Cruz of course (I know- maybe I'll start a thread on it) already upset an entrenched establishment candidate-- Dewhurst. He beat the crap out of that m'f'er from nowhere. I'm wondering if he can do something similar on the national stage? given that he is not a "natural born" citizen, by your standards (he has one more strike against him than Obama), he can't even run, right? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 10, 2015 10:26:22 GMT -5
What you cannot argue with is that Trump's turnaround in the polls is absolutely stunning. It is not something you see happen that often. In fact, the last time I can remember even hearing about a national candidate doing it was when Reagan's people met with the Christian coalition and Reagan went from 5 points down to 5 points up in 30 days. Interestingly-- the Cruz people are doing the same thing-- meeting with pastors. Cruz of course (I know- maybe I'll start a thread on it) already upset an entrenched establishment candidate-- Dewhurst. He beat the crap out of that m'f'er from nowhere. I'm wondering if he can do something similar on the national stage? given that he is not a "natural born" citizen, by your standards (he has one more strike against him than Obama), he can't even run, right? I've never argued that Obama was not a citizen. In my opinion, if Obama was born in Kenya he is still a citizen because his mother's citizenship has never been in dispute, and the status of the mother is the status of the child. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 10, 2015 10:42:07 GMT -5
given that he is not a "natural born" citizen, by your standards (he has one more strike against him than Obama), he can't even run, right? I've never argued that Obama was not a citizen. In my opinion, if Obama was born in Kenya he is still a citizen because his mother's citizenship has never been in dispute, and the status of the mother is the status of the child. really? you were not the guy that argued that BOTH parents had to be US citizens? |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 10, 2015 12:49:44 GMT -5
More and more I believe Trump has lost touch with reality. The attention he's getting for his outrageous attacks on people is going to his head. From the WP Oh Trump reminds us he went to the Wharton School of Business. But bankrupted how many businesses?  |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 10, 2015 12:52:37 GMT -5
latest poll has Trump up 13%, but both Bush and Carson were also up. i will post on the Bush thread later today.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 10, 2015 12:55:14 GMT -5
I don't know who they are polling, but I wonder if they will actually vote for him. Maybe the polls are asking if he'd be good on SNL? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 10, 2015 13:38:13 GMT -5
I've never argued that Obama was not a citizen. In my opinion, if Obama was born in Kenya he is still a citizen because his mother's citizenship has never been in dispute, and the status of the mother is the status of the child. really? you were not the guy that argued that BOTH parents had to be US citizens? Maybe I said that. I can't remember. I think the birth mother's status is the most important deal. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 10, 2015 14:52:15 GMT -5
really? you were not the guy that argued that BOTH parents had to be US citizens? Maybe I said that. I can't remember. I think the birth mother's status is the most important deal. ok. would you agree that birth FATHER is also acceptable? |
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 10, 2015 18:06:01 GMT -5
The more Trump insults women, the more Conservative women like him. Idiots. |
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The more Trump insults women, the more Conservative women like him. Idiots. it blows my mind, honestly. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 10, 2015 22:08:00 GMT -5
I'm beginning to understand why the press likes him so much. I wonder how easy it is going to be to top Bing Bing Bong Bong. here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? That's a fair point- what I pay attention to are the trends. I'm seeing things in the polls I've never seen before-- wild swings. For example, today I saw that Bernie is basically tied with Hilldebeast 41% - 40% in New Hampshire. Margin of error stuff- no biggie. IF this were a normal poll. It's not. The trend line is Hill is DOWN 12% in a month, and Bernie is up 8%. You don't typically see movement that dramatic in a month, and especially this early. The numbers for Trump show a similar about face-- from nearly 60% disapproval to almost the opposite now. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 10, 2015 23:56:19 GMT -5
here is what i think. it is FOURTEEN MONTHS before the election. do you really think that Bing Bing Bong Bong is going to sound the same, even SEVEN months from now? That's a fair point- what I pay attention to are the trends. I'm seeing things in the polls I've never seen before-- wild swings. For example, today I saw that Bernie is basically tied with Hilldebeast 41% - 40% in New Hampshire. Margin of error stuff- no biggie. IF this were a normal poll. It's not. The trend line is Hill is DOWN 12% in a month, and Bernie is up 8%. You don't typically see movement that dramatic in a month, and especially this early. The numbers for Trump show a similar about face-- from nearly 60% disapproval to almost the opposite now. what i saw is that Bernie is losing to BIDEN, who is not even running. |
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