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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 3, 2016 8:54:27 GMT -5
Paul Ryan will fight tooth and nail to undermine everything President Trump wants to do- especially enforcement of our immigration laws. His challenger is a loyal man who has given Trump his full-throated endorsement. It would be a disgrace for Trump not to reward that kind of loyalty. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 3, 2016 9:01:00 GMT -5
I hope to find an article on Trump I thought was especially insightful regarding how his mind works. I accidently closed the window and haven't found it again yet. I did find something not as good, but summarizes well.
talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/understanding-the-trump-khan-war
As I've noted in so many contexts, the need to assert dominance is at the root of all of Trump's actions. His whole way of understanding the world is one made up of dominators and the dominated. There's no infinite grey middle ground, where most of us live the vast majority of our human relationships. Trump simply had no choice but to lash out, to rebalance the equation of dominance in his favor.
I really like the other article because it explains how he became this way over time due to exchanges with his father, etc. Liberals seek to subjugate all people. When they are weak, they use manipulation, extortion, arguments, and protests appealing to the law. When they're in power, they use raw force. Anyone that doesn't understand the danger of liberalism we already face while they project liberalism's worst impulses onto Trump need to open their eyes and take a look around. It's understandable that people who operate by force, by bullying, and by censorship would fear a strong leader with whom they have differences. Rest assured, though, you're just projecting. |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Aug 3, 2016 9:01:02 GMT -5
You will fall for anything the fraudulent media puts out. I think you probably know the truth intuitively, don't you?  It was a JOKE. After Trump says something inappropriate and his staff tells him it becomes a joke. The media didn't have to put it out there. I heard it from his mouth in the recording of the event. He's the only one making jokes about babies, Purple Hearts etc. The joke I see is Trump. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 3, 2016 9:06:07 GMT -5
Kansas just replaced hard right conservatives with moderates... A step back to sanity? From what I have read, the far right conservatives pretty much killed the Kansas economy with their insane tax cuts. Conservative states are outperforming liberal states so well that in spite of the fact that Obama has had the worst post recession recovery record since the 1930's, it's only this "good" because of so-called "red states" which data mask the true scope of the Obama mess. Trump is right. We can't afford a third Obama term under Hillary: www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-worst-economic-recovery-since-1930s-salaries-fall-17000-short/article/2598311 |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 3, 2016 9:07:19 GMT -5
You will fall for anything the fraudulent media puts out. I think you probably know the truth intuitively, don't you? It was a JOKE. After Trump says something inappropriate and his staff tells him it becomes a joke. The media didn't have to put it out there. I heard it from his mouth in the recording of the event. He's the only one making jokes about babies, Purple Hearts etc. The joke I see is Trump. OK. You go ahead and cling to the silly idea that Trump ejected a baby from one of his events. Yep. That's what happened. |
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Aug 3, 2016 9:28:19 GMT -5
Looks like it to me Paul. After saying he likes crying babies he said this:
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Post by movingforward on Aug 3, 2016 9:39:04 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Aug 3, 2016 9:44:38 GMT -5
I hope to find an article on Trump I thought was especially insightful regarding how his mind works. I accidently closed the window and haven't found it again yet. I did find something not as good, but summarizes well.
talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/understanding-the-trump-khan-war
As I've noted in so many contexts, the need to assert dominance is at the root of all of Trump's actions. His whole way of understanding the world is one made up of dominators and the dominated. There's no infinite grey middle ground, where most of us live the vast majority of our human relationships. Trump simply had no choice but to lash out, to rebalance the equation of dominance in his favor.
I really like the other article because it explains how he became this way over time due to exchanges with his father, etc. Liberals seek to subjugate all people. When they are weak, they use manipulation, extortion, arguments, and protests appealing to the law. When they're in power, they use raw force. Anyone that doesn't understand the danger of liberalism we already face while they project liberalism's worst impulses onto Trump need to open their eyes and take a look around. It's understandable that people who operate by force, by bullying, and by censorship would fear a strong leader with whom they have differences. Rest assured, though, you're just projecting. Huh. I don't think its liberals or even conservatives overall who desire to subjugate people. Revealing word choice. So, take up the way of the narcissist, follow the great Donald Trump.? Get yourself into a life where only being dominant matters? Sex and beautiful women second, then money, and then well nothing?
There is no real strength in someone who always has to retaliate. That's someone fighting constantly for position, unable to be secure in their own self and values. Someone who needs social dominance and approval. Beware false idols. Do you want to worship Trump or Christ? You know that guy who wanted to save people more than be on top or keep his own life?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 3, 2016 10:23:18 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't great. He's better than McCain or Romney who are basically Democrats. But he's definitely a weak candidate with some progressive impulses. He's socially liberal. But he's fiscally conservative, for a strong national defense, and for the first time in a very long time-- we have a candidate that's overtly pro-American / nationalistic / patriotic -- and it is telling that this drives the UniParty establishment up the wall. They thrive on division, and there's a candidate that wants to make America Great for ALL Americans and they can't deal with it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 3, 2016 10:24:28 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 3, 2016 10:28:54 GMT -5
Paul Ryan will fight tooth and nail to undermine everything President Trump wants to do- especially enforcement of our immigration laws. His challenger is a loyal man who has given Trump his full-throated endorsement. It would be a disgrace for Trump not to reward that kind of loyalty. In 2012 Ryan won but not in a landslide - 55 vs 43%.
In this current cycle, assuming the Palin and Trump toady Neland wins in the August 9th primary, are you so certain that Wisconsin will vote for Neland in the general election? Or will this seat fall to the Dems?
Is it worthwhile to let the Dems get this seat just to see Ryan lose?
See - historically, in our universe, the GOP would back the candidate who had the best chance of defeating the opponent from the opposite party in the general election, in order to gain the majority of seats in the House and Senate. This is because a POTUS who has his own party members controlling the house and senate has a much better chance of getting his agenda through Congress.
Publically calling a powerful incumbent party member 'weak' and choosing to back a challenger because you have a personal grudge with the incumbent party member is considered, in our universe, disloyal to the party.
Apparently in your parallel universe, you have a different definition of 'loyalty' - politicians must have loyalty for a specific candidate, and not the party. Interesting. In your universe, should Trump win, does the GOP then become the Trump party? Are party members obligated to display his photograph and hail him as the supreme leader? Because in our universe, that kind of sounds like a different flavor of political system.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 3, 2016 10:33:38 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't great. He's better than McCain or Romney who are basically Democrats. But he's definitely a weak candidate with some progressive impulses. He's socially liberal. But he's fiscally conservative, for a strong national defense, and for the first time in a very long time-- we have a candidate that's overtly pro-American / nationalistic / patriotic -- and it is telling that this drives the UniParty establishment up the wall. They thrive on division, and there's a candidate that wants to make America Great for ALL Americans and they can't deal with it. Completely backwards.
Trump has gotten to where he is by creating divisions, making this an US verses the Muslims, the brown people, the gays, the liberals, etc. He has his loyal voters convinced that if he is elected POTUS, he will cleanse the country of the non Christians, non whites, and all those idiots who like to be PC. We'll reset the clock to 1950 and all will be good and safe again.
If you had watched the DNC, you would have seen them hit hard on the idea that it's WE the people, not 'white Christians are the people.'
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 3, 2016 10:36:45 GMT -5
My mother was already showing early signs of Alzheimer's dementia at Trump's current age. I don't think this is a new thing. I think he has some kind of personality disorder. But you could be right, Alzheimers could be amplifying it. For both my Mom and Dad, as the disease progressed, it robbed them of their empathy and the ability to judge the impact their words might make, to someone else. |
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 3, 2016 10:57:47 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't great. He's better than McCain or Romney who are basically Democrats. But he's definitely a weak candidate with some progressive impulses. He's socially liberal. But he's fiscally conservative, for a strong national defense, and for the first time in a very long time-- we have a candidate that's overtly pro-American / nationalistic / patriotic -- and it is telling that this drives the UniParty establishment up the wall. They thrive on division, and there's a candidate that wants to make America Great for ALL Americans and they can't deal with it. Well here is a video from 2007 where Trump endorses Hillary, and calls himself a likely Democrat: www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1157587814334271/Oops! I think that was also back when he was pro abortion, which he was, for his whole life, up until he decided to run for president, and then he decided women who have abortions should be locked up.
He's nothing if not politically flexible.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:10:57 GMT -5
The problem as I see it is... when Trump seems the most reasonable candidate of the ones that are running. That's proof that there's a problem, right there. The problem is even as nutty as Trump he's more sane that the rest of the candidates were. Now that we've moved into "The General Election"... it's a question of Nutty Trump, or Crooked Hillary. Both of which are HORRENDOUS choices. If there is life after death... I can don't even want to imagine the conversation going on amongst the Founding Fathers... Kasich IMHO was the sane one of the bunch but couldn't get anywhere. While I don't agree with all of his policies, he at least seems to be a halfway logical person. The fact that Cruz and Trump were the front runners demonstrates to me just how crazy the party has actually become. I do agree with you that as nutty as Trump is I would take him over Cruz. While I am not crazy over Hilary, she seems like the best and most logical choice to me. Kasich could have given her a run for her money but he obviously was way too normal. Kasich was not willing to call Obama the worst president in history, so he is out with the TP wing. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:12:23 GMT -5
I hope to find an article on Trump I thought was especially insightful regarding how his mind works. I accidently closed the window and haven't found it again yet. I did find something not as good, but summarizes well.
talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/understanding-the-trump-khan-war
As I've noted in so many contexts, the need to assert dominance is at the root of all of Trump's actions. His whole way of understanding the world is one made up of dominators and the dominated. There's no infinite grey middle ground, where most of us live the vast majority of our human relationships. Trump simply had no choice but to lash out, to rebalance the equation of dominance in his favor.
I really like the other article because it explains how he became this way over time due to exchanges with his father, etc. Liberals seek to subjugate all people. When they are weak, they use manipulation, extortion, arguments, and protests appealing to the law. When they're in power, they use raw force. Anyone that doesn't understand the danger of liberalism we already face while they project liberalism's worst impulses onto Trump need to open their eyes and take a look around. It's understandable that people who operate by force, by bullying, and by censorship would fear a strong leader with whom they have differences. Rest assured, though, you're just projecting. sorry, Paul, but this is insane. even Buckley knew this wasn't true, and he was about as conservative as they come. the reason i am POSITIVE that this will end badly for the GOP is because you guys no longer see liberals as natural allies. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:19:20 GMT -5
From what I have read, the far right conservatives pretty much killed the Kansas economy with their insane tax cuts. Conservative states are outperforming liberal states really? let's examine that claim. here are the (8) LOWEST UE STATES: South Dakota 2.7 Negative increase 0.2%- RED New Hampshire 2.8 Negative increase 0.1%- BLUE Nebraska 3.0 Steady 0.0%- RED Vermont 3.2 Negative increase 0.1%- BLUE North Dakota 3.2 Steady 0.0%- RED Hawaii 3.3 Negative increase 0.1% -BLUE Colorado 3.7 Negative increase 0.3% - BLUE Maine 3.7 Negative increase 0.2% -BLUE you are welcome to re categorize Maine if you want. after all, that nutsack LePaige is no Democrat. if you do, i am still not seeing your claim. here are the (8) HIGHEST UE STATES: Mississippi 5.9 Negative increase 0.1% - RED Alabama 6.0 0.1% - RED West Virginia 6.0 0.2% - RED New Mexico 6.2 Steady 0.0% - BLUE Louisiana 6.2 0.1% - RED Illinois 6.2 0.2% - BLUE Nevada 6.4 Negative increase 0.3% - BLUE Alaska 6.7 Steady 0.0% - RED again, 5/8 of the worst states are RED STATES. so, by what measure are you judging "outperforming"? literacy? obesity? insanity? what? |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:20:26 GMT -5
Trump is right. We can't afford a third Obama term under Hillary: no, we can't afford a third BUSH term under TRUMP, imo. and that is precisely what we would get. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:25:31 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't great. He's better than McCain or Romney who are basically Democrats. But he's definitely a weak candidate with some progressive impulses. He's socially liberal. But he's fiscally conservative, for a strong national defense, and for the first time in a very long time-- we have a candidate that's overtly pro-American / nationalistic / patriotic -- and it is telling that this drives the UniParty establishment up the wall. They thrive on division, and there's a candidate that wants to make America Great for ALL Americans and they can't deal with it. i don't think he is socially liberal. social liberals look out for the rights of all people, even when it is not in the interests of "security". and it is not fiscally conservative to promote a tax policy that will balloon the deficit $18T (going off memory, here). other than that, i agree with you. which means that Trump basically advocates nothing that i want or care about, and a great deal that i fear. |
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 3, 2016 11:26:58 GMT -5
It sounds like someone with virtually no medical knowledge whatsoever wrote it. Did it mention his heel spurs that allowed him to skip serving in Vietnam?
No, of course not. His labs were awesome, his BP was awesome and his overall health was the best he has ever seen. BS. Sounds like a 10 year old wrote it. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 3, 2016 11:27:01 GMT -5
My mother was already showing early signs of Alzheimer's dementia at Trump's current age. I don't think this is a new thing. I think he has some kind of personality disorder. But you could be right, Alzheimers could be amplifying it. For both my Mom and Dad, as the disease progressed, it robbed them of their empathy and the ability to judge the impact their words might make, to someone else. he is almost without a doubt NPD. he might be a sociopath. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 0:08:12 GMT -5
Trump is right. We can't afford a third Obama term under Hillary: no, we can't afford a third BUSH term under TRUMP, imo. and that is precisely what we would get. You are both right... and both wrong. We can't afford another Obama term under Hillary NOR another Bush term under Trump. The solution is simple... unfortunately it's too simple for most people to see: Elect Johnson instead of either Trump OR Hillary. |
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 4, 2016 6:44:30 GMT -5
no, we can't afford a third BUSH term under TRUMP, imo. and that is precisely what we would get. You are both right... and both wrong. We can't afford another Obama term under Hillary NOR another Bush term under Trump. The solution is simple... unfortunately it's too simple for most people to see: Elect Johnson instead of either Trump OR Hillary. I was reading the New Yorker review of Johnson last night and he said he did one of those on line 'who is the right candidate for me' polls and, after himself, Bernie Sanders was the closest match to him.
He said other than on fiscal issues, he agreed with Sanders - pot decriminalization, no foreign military conflicts, etc.
I wonder, once the dust settles on this election cycle from hell, if we could get a GOP/libertarian party? I could vote for that. My main problem with Sanders was his spending.
The unhappy Trumpettes could align themselves with the evangelical right wing to make their own anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-Muslim party, and good luck to them. They could be the God Loves Us but None of You party.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 6:47:39 GMT -5
Or, elect Stein instead of either Trump or Hillary......  I could go for that as well. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 4, 2016 9:36:08 GMT -5
Donald Trump isn't great. He's better than McCain or Romney who are basically Democrats. But he's definitely a weak candidate with some progressive impulses. He's socially liberal. But he's fiscally conservative, for a strong national defense, and for the first time in a very long time-- we have a candidate that's overtly pro-American / nationalistic / patriotic -- and it is telling that this drives the UniParty establishment up the wall. They thrive on division, and there's a candidate that wants to make America Great for ALL Americans and they can't deal with it. i don't think he is socially liberal. social liberals look out for the rights of all people, even when it is not in the interests of "security". and it is not fiscally conservative to promote a tax policy that will balloon the deficit $18T (going off memory, here). other than that, i agree with you. which means that Trump basically advocates nothing that i want or care about, and a great deal that i fear. We didn't import Germans and Japanese during WWII, we weren't itching to load up on Russians, or eastern Europeans during the cold war. Sorry, but there's no universal human "right" to immigrate to the United States. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 4, 2016 9:36:57 GMT -5
Is Trump trying to lose? I'm surprised no one brought up his fire fighter lies yet. Sorry for using a blog, there are better articles out there.
www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/01/trump_has_now_accused_two_fire_marshals_of_being_conspiring_against_him.html
So I have to tell you this. This is why our country doesn’t work. We have plenty of space here. We have thousands of people outside trying to get in. And we have a fire marshal that said, ‘Oh we can’t allow more people.’ ... And the reason they won’t let them in is because they don’t know what the hell they’re doing. Hey, maybe they’re a Hillary person. Could that be possible? Probably.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 4, 2016 9:38:15 GMT -5
Or, elect Stein instead of either Trump or Hillary...... I could go for that as well. Well, I'm a Christian. Using this absurd premise, I should just write in Jesus since there's about the same possibility of Him being elected and coming back to take the oath of office. There are two candidates, and only two candidates. You have to pick the one you like least and vote for the other against that candidate. If you don't want Trump more than you don't want Hillary- you'd better vote for Hillary, and vice versa. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 4, 2016 9:41:03 GMT -5
Is Trump trying to lose? I'm surprised no one brought up his fire fighter lies yet. Sorry for using a blog, there are better articles out there.
www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/08/01/trump_has_now_accused_two_fire_marshals_of_being_conspiring_against_him.html
So I have to tell you this. This is why our country doesn’t work. We have plenty of space here. We have thousands of people outside trying to get in. And we have a fire marshal that said, ‘Oh we can’t allow more people.’ ... And the reason they won’t let them in is because they don’t know what the hell they’re doing. Hey, maybe they’re a Hillary person. Could that be possible? Probably.
The Columbus FD says Trump's campaign agreed to the 1,000-person limit four days ago. Then they should have no problem documenting this. I used to host events, so I'm well aware of all the paperwork that has to be completed. I'd like to see proof. I've seen the venue- Trump is correct about capacity. If they agreed to a limit (which is highly unusual) such as contracting only portion of the space- that'll be in the contract. Otherwise, when you rent a venue- capacity is the limit. |
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Post by Opti on Aug 4, 2016 9:42:05 GMT -5
i don't think he is socially liberal. social liberals look out for the rights of all people, even when it is not in the interests of "security". and it is not fiscally conservative to promote a tax policy that will balloon the deficit $18T (going off memory, here). other than that, i agree with you. which means that Trump basically advocates nothing that i want or care about, and a great deal that i fear. We didn't import Germans and Japanese during WWII, we weren't itching to load up on Russians, or eastern Europeans during the cold war. Sorry, but there's no universal human "right" to immigrate to the United States. OK. But ISIS is not a country, it is not even a religion by itself. No one wants to let them come, but restricting Muslims affects places all over the world including Morocco.
What if instead of restricting Russians, we had chosen all Catholics and all Jews just to be safe?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 4, 2016 9:45:36 GMT -5
Oh, and btw- if you exceed the limit of the portion of the space you rented- then unless additional space is already reserved then expanded capacity is almost always granted for an additional fee. Trump PACKED the house in Daytona and Jacksonville yesterday- YUGE crowds. It's questionable why a campaign notorious for drawing capacity crowds would limit the space. I know two people with the campaign- the challenge has been getting a large enough venue. Note that the argument is not that the crowd didn't hit capacity, but that the Trump campaign supposedly agreed to a 1,000 person limit? Interesting, don't you think?
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