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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2015 15:41:54 GMT -5
Un-freaking-believable! It's a piece of art - abstract art at that.
Do you really think a kid is going to look at the painting and their first thought is going to be "Oooh look at the dirty picture with Boobies!" (teehee)
The white in the center of the painting looks like a set of buttocks if you want to see it as a set of buttocks, that is.
Heaven forbid a kid is ever exposed to a picture or replica copy of Michelangelo's "Statue of David" - or other great masterpieces
Can't go corrupting their little minds with culture.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 15:53:24 GMT -5
Un-freaking-believable! It's a piece of art - abstract art at that.
Do you really think a kid is going to look at the painting and their first thought is going to be "Oooh look at the dirty picture with Boobies!" (teehee)
The white in the center of the painting looks like a set of buttocks if you want to see it as a set of buttocks, that is.
Heaven forbid a kid is ever exposed to a picture or replica copy of Michelangelo's "Statue of David" - or other great masterpieces
Can't go corrupting their little minds with culture. Very believable. One culture says its culture, another culture says it's porn. I believe both are right. Do you have a problem with parents worldwide raising their own kids how they want to ? Me thinks someone has control issues here. Are you able to wrap your mind around the fact that your cultural acceptance of things, might not be the "right way" for someone else ?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 15:55:21 GMT -5
Lmao Picasso as porn.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2015 16:05:44 GMT -5
Of course I don't have a problem with parents worldwide raising their kids how they want to - or teaching them their values and what's decent or isn't decent (for them).
BUT - since the network that blurred-out that portion of the painting on their evening news is FOX, it's safe to say it was aired on one of FOX's local channels within the USA, so it has nothing to do with other cultures. I assume someone from another culture living in the US & watching TV has a remote-control to change the channel if something that's "culturally offensive" to them appears on TV.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 15, 2015 16:07:15 GMT -5
I once wrote a sarcastic letter to the editor stating I thought art books sold at Borders which contained pictures of Marcel Duchamp's Nude Descending a Staircase, No. 2 should only be sold from behind the cashier's counter because of the painting's nudity. In addition to some negative comments about me on the newspaper's website, I received a few anonymous letters to my home explaining to me freedom of the press. Some readers got my sarcasm-others did not.
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Post by billisonboard on May 15, 2015 16:10:36 GMT -5
... Do you have a problem with parents worldwide raising their own kids how they want to ? Me thinks someone has control issues here. ... I do have a problem with parents having carte blanche over how they raise their children. But I do agree that someone has control issues in regards to having sole control over other human beings.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 16:11:49 GMT -5
Love Duchamp!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 18:33:39 GMT -5
From the linked article: "On Thursday morning, Fox 5 addressed the controversy, saying the blurring was done by a producer on the night crew. In response to the ridicule on Twitter, the channel showed the full, unblurred version." It's their preference on what to show. I wouldn't of been swayed by "twitter". I've also thought Picasso's work was weird and goofy, but that's my preference. I wouldn't give $10 for that painting.I would... but only so I could turn around and re-sell it for ^$150Million!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 18:39:26 GMT -5
LOL... NO kidding. Picasso is the absolute LAST "Great Master" I would ever think of if someone said "Hey, did you hear, Jim was spanking his monkey while looking at a painting by one of the Great Masters!"
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 18:45:04 GMT -5
I actually did a search after that for Picasso Porn because I wanted to see if anyone else was actually suggesting this. Turns out the phrase makes the urban dictionary, as scrambled porn that people try to watch without paying for, because everything looks distorted like a Picasso ... Nothing else popped. Couldn't find any effirts to equate Picasso works with porn.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 15, 2015 21:05:46 GMT -5
Fox Channel Blurs Out Breasts on Picasso Painting The Women of Algiers (Version “O”), a painting by Pablo Picasso, became the most expensive work to ever sell at an auction this week. Sadly, some TV viewers of a New York affiliate of Fox were treated to a blurry, G-rated version. The painting, which sold for $179.4 million at Christie’s auction house in New York on Monday night, shows several female figures in the Cubist style, including several pairs of breasts and a couple of errant nipples. Fox 5, the Fox affiliate in New York City, obscured three pairs of breasts and covered up two nipples with a news banner at the bottom of the screen. A man pauses to look at Picasso’s “Women of Algiers (Version ‘O’)” at a media preview for a Christie’s art sale in New York on May 1, 2015. The decision by Fox 5 to blur part of the female anatomy was blasted by Jerry Saltz, senior art critic for New York magazine, who took to Twitter on Wednesday night. “How sexually sick are conservatives & Fox News? They blurred parts of the Picasso painting,” he tweeted, adding the hashtag #SickMinds. Rest of article below. Fox Channel Blurs Out Breasts on Picasso Painting
Hopefully, Fox never shows a picture of the Venus De Milo. Not only does she have exposed breasts but she is also a double amputee. Too much to 'bare' for a Fox audience. OMG! That's absolutely hysterical!! We have childrens' cartoons with nudity in them.
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Post by jkapp on May 15, 2015 21:32:06 GMT -5
SO what? I see crap blurred all the time when they show movies on regular TV, as well as idiotic censorship of words...since when is this new to TV?
My favorite censorship was a movie where the word motherf'er was changed to "mammajamma". Seriously?! (and ironically, I could not spell out the prior abbreviated word without being CENSORED on this very forum!!)
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Post by jkapp on May 15, 2015 21:34:18 GMT -5
Of course I don't have a problem with parents worldwide raising their kids how they want to - or teaching them their values and what's decent or isn't decent (for them).
BUT - since the network that blurred-out that portion of the painting on their evening news is FOX, it's safe to say it was aired on one of FOX's local channels within the USA, so it has nothing to do with other cultures. I assume someone from another culture living in the US & watching TV has a remote-control to change the channel if something that's "culturally offensive" to them appears on TV. Every TV has a remote and every radio has a tuner...so why do we have censorship at all? TV and radio have been massively censored for decades, so why is it all of sudden a shock to some people?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 21:36:00 GMT -5
Of course I don't have a problem with parents worldwide raising their kids how they want to - or teaching them their values and what's decent or isn't decent (for them).
BUT - since the network that blurred-out that portion of the painting on their evening news is FOX, it's safe to say it was aired on one of FOX's local channels within the USA, so it has nothing to do with other cultures. I assume someone from another culture living in the US & watching TV has a remote-control to change the channel if something that's "culturally offensive" to them appears on TV. Every TV has a remote and every radio has a tuner...so why do we have censorship at all? TV and radio have been massively censored for decades, so why is it all of sudden a shock to some people? Because some people are finally understanding how stupid it is?
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Post by jkapp on May 15, 2015 21:38:49 GMT -5
LOL... NO kidding. Picasso is the absolute LAST "Great Master" I would ever think of if someone said "Hey, did you hear, Jim was spanking his monkey while looking at a painting by one of the Great Masters!" And I doubt any sane person would be spanking it to a nude Kathy Bates in the movie ABout Schmidt but they would still blur it out.
And why didn't anyone warn me about that movie?! I was shock-blinded for a week!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 15, 2015 21:59:53 GMT -5
I don't think it's "all of a sudden".
There will always be someone offended by something. The best solution for Puritans or Prudes, is to avoid exposing themselves to things they find offensive to their sensitivities (or culture).
Television and movies have rating systems for content G, PG, A, Etc.
Some people may be offended at stories that involve gore or blood or murder or violence - but that alone is all covered in local and national news.
If you don't want to see bared breasts or men's genitalia, don't visit a museum or art gallery.
There are many shows on TV or movies in the theater that I have no desire to watch - I can choose what I view, and when it comes to other arts & entertainment, I can self-censor on my own without expecting the rest of the country to be censored because of something "I" might not approve of.
Blurring out a piece of priceless art on television because a pair of boobs was in the painting is beyond ridiculous.
Heaven forbid they ever go to a gallery and see a display of Peter Paul Rubens' works:link - Rubens Works
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Post by OldCoyote on May 15, 2015 22:44:23 GMT -5
$174,400,000.00 Now that was obscene! that should have been blurred.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2015 11:49:54 GMT -5
Un-freaking-believable! It's a piece of art - abstract art at that.
Do you really think a kid is going to look at the painting and their first thought is going to be "Oooh look at the dirty picture with Boobies!" (teehee)
The white in the center of the painting looks like a set of buttocks if you want to see it as a set of buttocks, that is.
Heaven forbid a kid is ever exposed to a picture or replica copy of Michelangelo's "Statue of David" - or other great masterpieces
Can't go corrupting their little minds with culture. Very believable. One culture says its culture thanks for admitting that FOX is outside of our culture. very big of you.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2015 11:50:52 GMT -5
has nothing to do with parenting, imo. has to do with shaming. and it sucks. It's the chicken and egg thing for me. Are the people uncomfortable with their deteriorating bodies and looks, and shame the better physical specimens ? Or do they think they look bad because they were shamed by the better lookers ?. Then pass it on to their kids either way. people are responsible for their own feelings. i don't want the state looking out for them. do you?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2015 11:53:55 GMT -5
because this nation is full of puritanical idiots. duh. PS- where i live it is like 50F today, so maybe not the best example. A little obsessed with the boobs being covered are we ? imo, yes. that is precisely it. our attitude toward breasts is approximately where Iran's is, and we don't seem embarrassed by it.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 16, 2015 11:59:31 GMT -5
Of course I don't have a problem with parents worldwide raising their kids how they want to - or teaching them their values and what's decent or isn't decent (for them).
BUT - since the network that blurred-out that portion of the painting on their evening news is FOX, it's safe to say it was aired on one of FOX's local channels within the USA, so it has nothing to do with other cultures. I assume someone from another culture living in the US & watching TV has a remote-control to change the channel if something that's "culturally offensive" to them appears on TV. Every TV has a remote and every radio has a tuner...so why do we have censorship at all? TV and radio have been massively censored for decades, so why is it all of sudden a shock to some people? probably because it is f-ing Picasso. i mean....seriously. i am not angry. i am incredulous. THIS censorship is mindblowing. the attempt to ban Naked Lunch by WS Burroughs is not shocking in the slightest (yet eventually Burroughs and his publisher prevailed. edit: NEARLY 60 YEARS AGO).
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Post by zibazinski on May 17, 2015 4:45:21 GMT -5
So what? If those that actually watch FOX as opposed to bitching about it all the time, complained about it being censored, then FOX should listen. For those who just like to bitch but don't actually watch FOX, do you think FOX gives a shit? That's as dumb an idea as the liberal news or FOX giving a shit what I think about them because I think they're all full of shit and crazy ass liars. Notice they don't give a damn what I think, either. Not a whit. As it should be.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on May 17, 2015 15:42:42 GMT -5
Interesting that a lot of the same posters blasting the news network have also complained that people should change what they do or say for political correctness (or politeness). I'm sure the news networks political affiliation has absolutely nothing to do with their criticisms.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 18:53:32 GMT -5
Define "a lot".
I'm "blasting" them... and I've never been one for "political correctness".
I do say "please" and "thank you"... and "yes/no sir" and "yes/no ma'am"... but I'm not sure what politeness has to do with anything regarding this issue.
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Post by billisonboard on May 17, 2015 19:01:10 GMT -5
... the news networks political affiliation ... Shouldn't it just be "the network's political affiliation"?
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Post by tallguy on May 17, 2015 19:33:33 GMT -5
I'm curious what the general view is. Did FOX blur the painting because:
a. they (the person or group making the decision) actually considered it pornographic b. their viewers would consider it pornographic c. they don't think their viewers are mature enough to handle seeing it
Personally, I would bet on a combination of all three, with the disrespect for the intelligence of their viewers being higher on the graph than the other two.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 19:40:03 GMT -5
I'm curious what the general view is. Did FOX blur the painting because:
a. they (the person or group making the decision) actually considered it pornographic b. their viewers would consider it pornographic c. they don't think their viewers are mature enough to handle seeing it
Personally, I would bet on a combination of all three, with the disrespect for the intelligence of their viewers being higher on the graph than the other two. If you are going with "d. all of the above", I'll take "e. both a and c". Since they did the blurring, it all comes down to what they think... which only applies to "a" and "c", but possibly applies equally to both and not exclusively to one or the other.
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Post by tallguy on May 17, 2015 19:47:25 GMT -5
But there is also the chance that they were right about their viewers considering it so. Certainly a subset of them anyway. That's why I have to leave that answer in there. But yeah, there is not a doubt in my mind that they have little respect for their viewers. That is why they can get away with spoon-feeding them nonsense. Because the viewers accept it.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 17, 2015 19:55:47 GMT -5
So this news piece was on Fox in the late evening-I thought maybe the dinner-time news. I just noticed the time and temperature in the lower left hand corner: 10:20 (p.m.). I would imagine impressionable little tots would be/should be in bed at that hour.
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Post by tallguy on May 17, 2015 19:56:19 GMT -5
From the movie The American President:
Not at all sure why that particular exchange occurred to me here....
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