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Post by The Captain on Mar 12, 2015 8:08:26 GMT -5
@hickle Do you happen to follow Fashion Grandpas on instagram? Hi, I just googled it. I will start looking at it. I go to www.thesartorialist.com/ and to reddit's www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/ , but not many other places. It kind of bothers me to think that I should be looking at grandpa fashion . I am 53 and last year I lost about 25 pounds, from 205 to low 180's/high 170's and ended up buying a lot of new clothes. I bought a lot of chinos and button up shirts. I really have no place to wear them though. I feel really comfortable in sneakers, jeans and t-shirt. Fit is the key to good looking clothes. I used to buy over size stuff, extra large , now I buy medium for the most part. (Dammit fer real?) Ok - I just googled well dressed men in their 50's and got so many NSFW images I had to back out like NOW! But any how, I wanted to post a picture of a nicely dressed hot dude in his 50's to make a point. Kinda like what I'm trying to work out with my own body type. I lost over 70 lbs over 15 years ago (yea - I'm still chunky) and STILL buy clothes that are two sizes two big for casual wear. You can go with the jeans, t-shirt and sneakers look good on you and be fab. Just make sure it's the right jeans, t-shirt and sneakers for you. Don't take 15+ years to get comfortable enough in your skin to be wear stuff that makes you look as good as you can feel about yourself (says the kettle).
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Post by cael on Mar 12, 2015 8:28:50 GMT -5
I missed a lot. Even though I don't care I don't wear outdated stuff - I mostly keep up with the times. I buy newer styles of jeans as they become a thing and as I decide I like it. And, I do care that I look put together enough for work, but I wear a work issued polo shirt (with khakis or corduroys) every single day, so there's only so much I can do clothing-wise to "look nice" at work. I'm not in a field where I sit at a desk, I am up and down, in and out of the car, in and out of dirty houses and restaurants and everywhere so looking nice is just not worth my time, since I'll look like crap at the end of the day anyway. let's try this photo one more time so I can prove I'm not always a slob.... ah yay it worked! (edited to make smaller)
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Post by yogiii on Mar 12, 2015 8:41:35 GMT -5
It's a little hard to tell but I think the stitching on your jeans looks very 2 days ago ...
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Post by cael on Mar 12, 2015 8:48:13 GMT -5
Thinking about it I've actually had those jeans for (gasp) 4 years maybe? Do I get YM credits at least?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2015 8:49:17 GMT -5
So if I am following correctly if you were clothes that are 10+ years out of date that's fine and is in fact a point of pride because it shows that you are a non-conformist who doesn't care what people think and that you don't care about fashion/style.
If you dare to suggest someone with a wardrobe that old might need an upgrade you are a shallow fashion clown who desperately needs the attention of others and probably cleans out her closet every five minutes spending a small fortune on new stuff unlike the responsible non-fashion caring people. Do I have that right?
I have no clue why it is a sin to say that the clothes I wore at 21 are likely out of date, not fitting my current lifestyle and I am due for a re-evaluation and upgrade.
If it truly makes you happy to wear clothes that are 10+ years old then rock it and more power to you. But don't try to convince me you are doing it b/c your wardrobe is so classic you don't need to buy new clothing.
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Post by yogiii on Mar 12, 2015 8:50:32 GMT -5
Thinking about it I've actually had those jeans for (gasp) 4 years maybe? Do I get YM credits at least? No they either have to be brand new or 20 years old.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 12, 2015 8:51:23 GMT -5
Thinking about it I've actually had those jeans for (gasp) 4 years maybe? Do I get YM credits at least? pfffth. For only 4 years? You must be new here.
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Post by yogiii on Mar 12, 2015 8:54:22 GMT -5
Is that pic from yesterday? We have one day where it's 50 instead of polar vortex and you wear short sleeves? Actually I wore short sleeves yesterday too , it was my big middle finger to winter, oh except it didn't work since it's 30 again today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 8:57:01 GMT -5
I almost wore a tshirt this morning... Melt snow melt...
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Post by cael on Mar 12, 2015 8:58:58 GMT -5
Dammit! Er, I probably have clothes that are 10 years old? Someday I'll earn some YM credits. LOL, that photo was from the late fall when it was still warm-ish and in the 50s! I was outside in short sleeves all day yesterday though I have a sensitive internal thermometer - cold a lot, but get overheated easily. Yesterday was glorious.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 9:10:09 GMT -5
So if I am following correctly if you were clothes that are 10+ years out of date that's fine and is in fact a point of pride because it shows that you are a non-conformist who doesn't care what people think and that you don't care about fashion/style.
If you dare to suggest someone with a wardrobe that old might need an upgrade you are a shallow fashion clown who desperately needs the attention of others and probably cleans out her closet every five minutes spending a small fortune on new stuff unlike the responsible non-fashion caring people. Do I have that right?
I have no clue why it is a sin to say that the clothes I wore at 21 are likely out of date, not fitting my current lifestyle and I am due for a re-evaluation and upgrade.
If it truly makes you happy to wear clothes that are 10+ years old then rock it and more power to you. But don't try to convince me you are doing it b/c your wardrobe is so classic you don't need to buy new clothing.
DQ, Not sure who you are speaking to, but I don't think the views are necessarily that extreme. When we have these fashion discussions it seems jeans from the 80s are always trotted out as examples. Clothes from 35 to 25 years ago. Not sure that the average person has enough closet space that they keep lots of older stuff just because.
I know clothing is different from cars, but on the street now I see current cars back into the 70s on a daily basis. Occasionally I'll see an old truck or older vehicle from the 50s or earlier as well. Just saw an older bigger car(probably 80s or early 90s) likely driven by teen or 20 something. How did I guess that? It was accessorized with massively outsize wheels and very little tire.
Also, how you wear your clothes can make them look dated or current. I saw a pair of jeans from the 80s on a plus size model. They were high waisted and had slight pleats. If someone wore those with a shirt over the jeans instead of tucked in, someone like me wouldn't even notice they were jeans from the 80s in part because it was a blue wash not an acid wash. Also clothes for bigger sizes and certain brands tend to be less fashion oriented and more generic thus easier to use for many years compared to more fashion iconic choices.
I get new clothing when I need to. Some things wear out sooner than others like sneakers. Others I keep because they are good enough and I like them. There's nothing wrong with liking fashion and wanting to be fashionable. I'm not sure why there needs to be something wrong with being less fashionable unless its hideous or really bad style.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2015 9:12:31 GMT -5
Is that pic from yesterday? We have one day where it's 50 instead of polar vortex and you wear short sleeves? Actually I wore short sleeves yesterday too , it was my big middle finger to winter, oh except it didn't work since it's 30 again today. Shoot, the crazies here in Michigan wear short sleeves in sub-zero weather. When it was -4F, I saw a teen walking home from the high school in just a button down shirt with his sleeves rolled up. (What is up with teens not wanting to be reasonably warm in the winter?) It broke 40 last week, and I saw a guy wearing shorts and a T-shirt at the grocery store. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here at my mom's in 72 degree heat freezing in a hoodie. (#Idontbelonghere)
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2015 9:18:52 GMT -5
Also, how you wear your clothes can make them look dated or current. I saw a pair of jeans from the 80s on a plus size model. They were high waisted and had slight pleats. If someone wore those with a shirt over the jeans instead of tucked in, someone like me wouldn't even notice they were jeans from the 80s in part because it was a blue wash not an acid wash. Also clothes for bigger sizes and certain brands tend to be less fashion oriented and more generic thus easier to use for many years compared to more fashion iconic choices.
I get new clothing when I need to. Some things wear out sooner than others like sneakers. Others I keep because they are good enough and I like them. There's nothing wrong with liking fashion and wanting to be fashionable. I'm not sure why there needs to be something wrong with being less fashionable unless its hideous or really bad style.
That's what I've been trying to say. Actually, I've been trying to figure out if I look dorky because I won't wear certain styles any more due to gaining weight and not feeling like it would look good on me, or if I've been saved from looking dorky because I no longer fit into any of the older clothes that I own due to said weight gain.
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Post by yogiii on Mar 12, 2015 9:27:22 GMT -5
Is that pic from yesterday? We have one day where it's 50 instead of polar vortex and you wear short sleeves? Actually I wore short sleeves yesterday too , it was my big middle finger to winter, oh except it didn't work since it's 30 again today. Shoot, the crazies here in Michigan wear short sleeves in sub-zero weather. When it was -4F, I saw a teen walking home from the high school in just a button down shirt with his sleeves rolled up. (What is up with teens not wanting to be reasonably warm in the winter?) It broke 40 last week, and I saw a guy wearing shorts and a T-shirt at the grocery store. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here at my mom's in 72 degree heat freezing in a hoodie. (#Idontbelonghere) Don't worry, I had an appropriately fashionable cardigan at my desk and was forced to put is on after only an hour or so. I don't belong here either. Bring on the 80 deg temps!
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Post by milee on Mar 12, 2015 9:46:19 GMT -5
think the views are necessarily that extreme. When we have these fashion discussions it seems jeans from the 80s are always trotted out as examples. Clothes from 35 to 25 years ago. Not sure that the average person has enough closet space that they keep lots of older stuff just because. ....
I get new clothing when I need to. Some things wear out sooner than others like sneakers. Others I keep because they are good enough and I like them. There's nothing wrong with liking fashion and wanting to be fashionable. I'm not sure why there needs to be something wrong with being less fashionable unless its hideous or really bad style.
No idea what DQ's responding to, but for me - I'm responding because it seems a large portion of the people who talk about "classic" clothes and classics being "timeless" are talking about actual 20+ year old clothes, not a classic style. There were plenty of examples of pictures of actual 20+ year old clothes and posters talking about actual 20+ year old clothes they were wearing... that's not referring to a classic style; that's describing wearing actual 20+ year old clothing.
And although I've posted it before in many different phrasings, let me repeat it again. If you have clothing you love, feel comfy in, keep because you don't want to spend the money, don't really care about clothes - that's fine and I'm not disparaging that. What I'm pointing out is that this is a very different animal than someone buying plain or simple styles clothing and then keeping them for decades because they think that clothing is "classic" and "timeless"... because it's just not. Don't kid yourself or think you look anything other than dated. (And as I keep saying being dated isn't a sin and there are good reasons for choosing to be dated.)
I live in the land of the senior citizens. This thinking (my clothes are timeless classics, no need to replace) seems to be very common among seniors. No idea if it's an eyesight thing, a personal fashion choice thing or they just (understandably) lose their desire or funds to shop any more. But for every person out there who pulls off a crazy outfit because of their 'tude - like many of the pictures posted here in this thread - there are 6 dozen other seniors who just look silly even to the other seniors. And again, if you love that look and don't care or whatever other reason that's no problem. They're your clothes. But don't kid yourself that you look remotely mainstream and that people aren't giggling a little inside when you pass by.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2015 9:54:58 GMT -5
milee is so much more eloquent than I am.
I was saying is that I find it interesting that the defense used when bringing up clothing is "I don't care about clothes, I don't want to wear ::insert insane fashion item here::" like somehow that's the only types of things you can be wearing if you care about your clothes/style.
I don't think anybody said anything about 70 year olds having to wear jeggings*, but that was an example brought as a response. There have also been numerous statements that if you care about style/fashion you must look like a clown or replace your clothes every year.
There is an in-between ground and that's what most people should/do shoot for.
A lot of people tend to hang onto outdated clothing not b/c they love it and want to rock the look but because they figure it'll come back into style eventually or that since it is a "classic" it will never change. The point is even classics change over time and you can end up looking dated. Nobody has said you need to replace your wardrobe every year. But giving it a lookesy at least every 5 years and definitely every decade is probably a smart idea.
ETA: If I have the body at 70 to rock jeggings you bet I am going to wear them, screw age appropriateness.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 10:14:29 GMT -5
When we have these fashion discussions it seems jeans from the 80s are always trotted out as examples. Clothes from 35 to 25 years ago. Not sure that the average person has enough closet space that they keep lots of older stuff just because. ....
I get new clothing when I need to. Some things wear out sooner than others like sneakers. Others I keep because they are good enough and I like them. There's nothing wrong with liking fashion and wanting to be fashionable. I'm not sure why there needs to be something wrong with being less fashionable unless its hideous or really bad style.
No idea what DQ's responding to, but for me - I'm responding because it seems a large portion of the people who talk about "classic" clothes and classics being "timeless" are talking about actual 20+ year old clothes, not a classic style. There were plenty of examples of pictures of actual 20+ year old clothes and posters talking about actual 20+ year old clothes they were wearing... that's not referring to a classic style; that's describing wearing actual 20+ year old clothing.
And although I've posted it before in many different phrasings, let me repeat it again. If you have clothing you love, feel comfy in, keep because you don't want to spend the money, don't really care about clothes - that's fine and I'm not disparaging that. What I'm pointing out is that this is a very different animal than someone buying plain or simple styles clothing and then keeping them for decades because they think that clothing is "classic" and "timeless"... because it's just not. Don't kid yourself or think you look anything other than dated. (And as I keep saying being dated isn't a sin and there are good reasons for choosing to be dated.)
I live in the land of the senior citizens. This thinking (my clothes are timeless classics, no need to replace) seems to be very common among seniors. No idea if it's an eyesight thing, a personal fashion choice thing or they just (understandably) lose their desire or funds to shop any more. But for every person out there who pulls off a crazy outfit because of their 'tude - like many of the pictures posted here in this thread - there are 6 dozen other seniors who just look silly even to the other seniors. And again, if you love that look and don't care or whatever other reason that's no problem. They're your clothes. But don't kid yourself that you look remotely mainstream and that people aren't giggling a little inside when you pass by.
OK. I don't feel I live in the land of seniors but I do see a fair amount of them. Older people and poor people often look out of fashion because of funds. Mocking them doesn't make them any richer nor fashionable so I personally say nothing. They don't look mainstream and they may even know it. If they want to call their look classic, what does it really matter? They aren't fashion icons, probably have no desire or funds to be, so why even care?
Yes many fashion staples do change over the years, but again this is me, if it is a good example of whatever, it often can be used for years even if its obvious it is not current. A good cool looking trench coat. A nice cashmere v-neck sweater in a classic color like gray or navy.
Then there are items of clothing you always need to be concerned about. Skirts of midi length. Plazzo pants. Ponchos. I suppose if you have to laugh at me inside or outside because my sartorial choices aren't current or enough to your taste. Have at it. I can't stop you.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 10:27:45 GMT -5
DQ, I have some pieces I keep because I like them. Not necessarily because I think they will come back into to style, but more that I like them and IMO they will look good enough paired with other stuff. As an example, I have kept some clothes from my thinner days. One is a Patagonia fleece snap tneck. Its warm, its versatile. It will be dated because of the fleece type should I wear it again. It remains partly because of memories and partly because it is more useful and less generic than other fleece pieces that left my closet earlier.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2015 10:58:29 GMT -5
Please keep in mind that I don't mean this in an argumentative way AT ALL, but I'm not always able to put things in a delicate enough way. There seems to be a little bit of an element of skinny folks lecturing fatter folks about keeping up with fashions. The thing is, the larger you get, the harder it is. I'm still in regular sizes, but when I go into a store, it's difficult now to find ANYTHING that I like/fits well. I used to be a size 8-10 for most of my life, and I could go into a store and just buy a medium top, and 9 times out of 10, it would fit fine and look good. Now, I can pick 9 or 10 tops to try on at the store, and NOTHING fits well/looks good. Current trends seem to fit worse because my arms are kind of fat now. But, if tighter fits on the arms are in, what are you to do? Accentuate the fat arms or be out of fashion? Bottoms were hard enough to find when I was skinny, now it's damn near impossible. It is just so frustrating/unrewarding to shop for clothes as a size 12/14.
All that to say you have a double whammy if you're larger. Now, if I see someone who is bigger that can pull off a current look well, I'm all the more impressed (but I betcha it's not a completely current look--no skinny pants, for instance). It's a lot of damn work just finding the stuff, and they probably had to get alterations adding to the cost.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 12, 2015 12:23:55 GMT -5
I have a gorgeous, very fitted, little black jacket from the 1940s that I found in my mother's closet. It fits me like a glove. Is it dated? You bet! Is it mainstream? Not even a little. I love it, and wear it with a pencil skirt and heels. People ask me where I got it and I tell them it's no longer available because it's 70 years old. It's one of my favourite pieces.
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Post by milee on Mar 12, 2015 13:17:50 GMT -5
OK. I don't feel I live in the land of seniors but I do see a fair amount of them. Older people and poor people often look out of fashion because of funds. Mocking them doesn't make them any richer nor fashionable so I personally say nothing. They don't look mainstream and they may even know it. If they want to call their look classic, what does it really matter? They aren't fashion icons, probably have no desire or funds to be, so why even care?
You are responding like you think I personally sit on the corner and critique passersby or that I have a show like "What Not to Wear." I don't and have no desire to do that.
My posts have been in response to a discussion topic posted here where people are talking about their fashion preferences. That's how discussion works - people post differing opinions. Doesn't remotely equate to sitting on a corner judging people's fashion choices.
And as I keep mentioning, there are plenty of good reasons to wear things that are dated or even unflattering. My posts have been specifically responding to the self-delusion that if you only buy "timeless" and "classic" clothes you can wear them for decades and be perfectly fashionable. Disagreeing with that sentiment isn't mocking - you're setting up a straw man.
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Post by milee on Mar 12, 2015 13:19:29 GMT -5
Please keep in mind that I don't mean this in an argumentative way AT ALL, but I'm not always able to put things in a delicate enough way. There seems to be a little bit of an element of skinny folks lecturing fatter folks about keeping up with fashions. Since we're on the internet, it's pretty hard to tell who's skinny and who's not, but the only comments disparaging heavier people have been from people who claim to be heavy themselves.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 13:33:44 GMT -5
OK. I don't feel I live in the land of seniors but I do see a fair amount of them. Older people and poor people often look out of fashion because of funds. Mocking them doesn't make them any richer nor fashionable so I personally say nothing. They don't look mainstream and they may even know it. If they want to call their look classic, what does it really matter? They aren't fashion icons, probably have no desire or funds to be, so why even care?
You are responding like you think I personally sit on the corner and critique passersby or that I have a show like "What Not to Wear." I don't and have no desire to do that.
My posts have been in response to a discussion topic posted here where people are talking about their fashion preferences. That's how discussion works - people post differing opinions. Doesn't remotely equate to sitting on a corner judging people's fashion choices.
And as I keep mentioning, there are plenty of good reasons to wear things that are dated or even unflattering. My posts have been specifically responding to the self-delusion that if you only buy "timeless" and "classic" clothes you can wear them for decades and be perfectly fashionable. Disagreeing with that sentiment isn't mocking - you're setting up a straw man.
Milee, I'm responding to what you wrote. What I love about this board and the Internet in general is we can go back and look at what is said. Figure out what is misinterpreted and what is just someone's incorrect interpretation or belief about what is written.
All I personally think is you must critique people in RL at least sometimes given what you wrote. How often and where? I haven't even thought about it actually. Please don't put words nor opinions you have and attribute them to me.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 12, 2015 13:42:06 GMT -5
I wish I had a picture of DH in the suit his mom foisted off on him.
It was an older suit of FIL's. I am not sure exactly what date it was purchased but it was long enough that I could tell DH has no business wearing it. MIL insisted it was a "perfectly good suit" and DH should wear it for interviews.
I had a cow but DH was cheap and insisted that "men's suits don't change".
He was getting shown the door and couldn't figure out why. I marched him down to the mall to buy his own suit. Suddenly he got interest.
The suit DH was wearing is NOT the same thing as someone on the red carpet rocking a vintage suit/tuxedo.
There is a difference between picking older pieces out on purpose to add to your functioning wardrobe and hanging onto old/outdated stuff b/c "it's still good" like my MIL does.
DH's suit is not super trendy. He's a big man so you won't see him in a skinny suit and I threatened to divorce him if I EVER see him in a shorts suit. But the suit he now owns is current and fits his body so he looks WAY better.
More people are like my MIL than they are people who are hanging onto items b/c they enjoy wearing vintage pieces.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Mar 12, 2015 13:44:12 GMT -5
As a former heavier person (size 14, now 8) it's not impossible to find figure-flattering clothing that is stylish. On the harder side, sure, but if you have an eye for things it's not a terrible endeavor. Even when I was hating how I looked and was frustrated with shopping, I personally still enjoyed shopping. I think that's the key. I have a pretty standard uniform (cardigan, tank top/sleeveless shell, jeans/black pants, flats) that I've stuck no matter my weight. When I was heavier I wore more skirts and now I feel more comfortable in dresses, and I also tend to wear more straight leg pants to work now. Skirts (i wore and still wear pencil skirts) and a sweater hid the fat better. For me. I've always been one to accessorize well. Necklaces have always been my expertise!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 12, 2015 13:45:49 GMT -5
My son had a wedding to go to, and bought a Michael Kors suit for about $20 at a thrift store. It was freaking gorgeous! It had a 3 button jacket in a trendy 2 button world. Oh, the horror!
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 12, 2015 13:46:48 GMT -5
Buying clothes off the rack and trying to look good and stylish is hard work. It takes time, practice and money.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 13:47:24 GMT -5
When we have these fashion discussions it seems jeans from the 80s are always trotted out as examples. Clothes from 35 to 25 years ago. Not sure that the average person has enough closet space that they keep lots of older stuff just because. ....
I get new clothing when I need to. Some things wear out sooner than others like sneakers. Others I keep because they are good enough and I like them. There's nothing wrong with liking fashion and wanting to be fashionable. I'm not sure why there needs to be something wrong with being less fashionable unless its hideous or really bad style.
No idea what DQ's responding to, but for me - I'm responding because it seems a large portion of the people who talk about "classic" clothes and classics being "timeless" are talking about actual 20+ year old clothes, not a classic style. There were plenty of examples of pictures of actual 20+ year old clothes and posters talking about actual 20+ year old clothes they were wearing... that's not referring to a classic style; that's describing wearing actual 20+ year old clothing.
And although I've posted it before in many different phrasings, let me repeat it again. If you have clothing you love, feel comfy in, keep because you don't want to spend the money, don't really care about clothes - that's fine and I'm not disparaging that. What I'm pointing out is that this is a very different animal than someone buying plain or simple styles clothing and then keeping them for decades because they think that clothing is "classic" and "timeless"... because it's just not. Don't kid yourself or think you look anything other than dated. (And as I keep saying being dated isn't a sin and there are good reasons for choosing to be dated.)
I live in the land of the senior citizens. This thinking (my clothes are timeless classics, no need to replace) seems to be very common among seniors. No idea if it's an eyesight thing, a personal fashion choice thing or they just (understandably) lose their desire or funds to shop any more. But for every person out there who pulls off a crazy outfit because of their 'tude - like many of the pictures posted here in this thread - there are 6 dozen other seniors who just look silly even to the other seniors. And again, if you love that look and don't care or whatever other reason that's no problem. They're your clothes. But don't kid yourself that you look remotely mainstream and that people aren't giggling a little inside when you pass by.
You wrote the bolded. I don't think its a huge leap to guess you do that behavior. That's it.
FWIW, things can be twenty years old and classic. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
You have posted about the Target purses you get complimented on. It shouldn't be that hard to believe some of us get compliments on clothing that is 10, 20 years old or older. Not everything old is fugly nor is everything new mainstream or beautiful. Since we aren't posting pics and judging, its pretty theoretical based on what might be assumed we have in our closets or not. I get it. Some people's ideas of classic isn't. And we might agree on that in certain cases. But perhaps not all.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 13:53:17 GMT -5
This might be a straw man argument. Not sure if anyone is saying all older clothing that is classic can be worn for decades and be perfectly fashionable.
One other interesting thing I've noticed on the board is we can all get into our own pet arguments or opinions and not actually respond to what is written. Happens in RL too, just so much easier to spot on line in written form.
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Post by Opti on Mar 12, 2015 13:57:18 GMT -5
As a former heavier person (size 14, now 8) it's not impossible to find figure-flattering clothing that is stylish. On the harder side, sure, but if you have an eye for things it's not a terrible endeavor. Even when I was hating how I looked and was frustrated with shopping, I personally still enjoyed shopping. I think that's the key. I have a pretty standard uniform (cardigan, tank top/sleeveless shell, jeans/black pants, flats) that I've stuck no matter my weight. When I was heavier I wore more skirts and now I feel more comfortable in dresses, and I also tend to wear more straight leg pants to work now. Skirts (i wore and still wear pencil skirts) and a sweater hid the fat better. For me. I've always been one to accessorize well. Necklaces have always been my expertise! I was going to comment to the other post, but I realized we are all different heights and builds. How and where one gains weight is very individual. For my build I could walk into almost anywhere as a size 8 or 6 and look good and presentable in almost anything. At a certain size and weight I had to learn to buy differently and have a different style.
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