weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 24, 2015 0:37:25 GMT -5
Since you have stated this twice, I thought I would ask you to explain by what criteria you are declaring this as true. Almost half of all black males do not graduate. Kids are drugged to stop fidgeting. It costs tens of thousands of dollars per student in some states to educate. Many teachers suspected of bad teaching are paid to just sit and not have anything to do with students. Every week I read about some kid that was suspended from school for doing something that was perfectly ordinary 20 years ago. The biting a pop tart into the shape of a gun, comes to mind. That kid was expelled. Kids are expelled for having aspirin. It is just idiotic and it impacts real people. It teaches against common sense. When students should not have respect for the school they go to, that school is failing, in my opinion, and any school that does some of the things mentioned above does not deserve respect, again imo. You don't seem to know how ADHD meds work. If you give them to kids to "stop fidgeting", they're going to fidget even more. They're amphetamines. They only work to calm down kids who really need them. They have a different kind of brain chemistry.
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EVT1
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 24, 2015 2:06:30 GMT -5
Read any yahoo comments- black people do not have jobs and shoot each other over the steak and lobster welfare packages
Racism is over though
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imanangel
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Post by imanangel on Feb 25, 2015 12:40:11 GMT -5
Also, but a separate issue (so I made it a separate post), in too many cases "graduating" just means "was there for 4 years"... but didn't learn a damn thing. (bolding mine) How many of the 19 percent are LD and on IEPs?
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imanangel
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Post by imanangel on Feb 26, 2015 14:17:09 GMT -5
That accounts for some of them, but LD and IEP kids are a much smaller percentage of the student body than 20%. There are kids capable of learning to read in that 20% who are falling through the cracks. I understand that. I was just wondering what the percentage of the 19% was LD and on IEPs. I am aware that many are falling through the cracks. I was just curious of the breakdown.
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Wisconsin Beth
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 26, 2015 15:17:57 GMT -5
That accounts for some of them, but LD and IEP kids are a much smaller percentage of the student body than 20%. There are kids capable of learning to read in that 20% who are falling through the cracks. I understand that. I was just wondering what the percentage of the 19% was LD and on IEPs. I am aware that many are falling through the cracks. I was just curious of the breakdown. Well IEP is also going to include kids like my son. He's got an IEP for his speech. It has no bearing on anything else. Of course, he's also in K4.
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imanangel
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Post by imanangel on Feb 27, 2015 8:31:50 GMT -5
I understand that. I was just wondering what the percentage of the 19% was LD and on IEPs. I am aware that many are falling through the cracks. I was just curious of the breakdown. Well IEP is also going to include kids like my son. He's got an IEP for his speech. It has no bearing on anything else. Of course, he's also in K4. Yes, I know that there are several different types of IEPs. I am a teacher. I specifically said LD students. I have one student that has a severe LD and can barely read at a 1st grade level. I am just curious if this particular article considered students like this as part of the 19%
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