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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 20:54:57 GMT -5
Awww, Bob Ross, tomorrow IS Valentine's Day. Perfect timing for those tired of the same old missionary position routine. The "techniques" detailed in the book have been around forever. So is a bestselling trash-novel really gonna be the thing that finally convinces John and Jane Q Public to send the kids off to gran's before breaking out the roofing asphalt and sawzall with erotic attachment? Like lemmings headed toward the cliff. Oh man, I take back everything I said. This could get hilarious! Anyone here working in a ER this weekend that might be able to post a few stories come Monday? A lot of first responders are concerned about a spike in activity this weekend. Just sayin..... mashable.com/2015/02/12/london-fire-brigade-fifty-shades-of-grey/
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Post by violagirl on Feb 13, 2015 21:00:17 GMT -5
Forgetting the content of the book - the book in general is poorly written. I couldn't imagine reading the first one and picking up the second. I found the Amazon reviews to be way more entertaining.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Feb 14, 2015 9:28:28 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm pretty surprised by it too. Granted I haven't read the book (and don't plan to) but I did read the plot summary, and I'm amazed BDST soft porn could be so popular and sell so well.
I agree with the OP, it does make one question on some level what women really want. I know the human mind is very intricate, but the books popularity does suggest that deep down, many women find enjoyment in submissive roles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 9:33:58 GMT -5
I haven't read it. My mother said the first one was really poorly written and I had no desire to waste time on poorly written trash. From what I hear though, it's really not an accurate picture of what a submissive relationship, at least a healthy one, is really like.
Its so so fun to have a conversation with teens along that lines, that if this is a subject in which they find an interest, this is not an accurate model... But then they apparently were aware this started as twilight fanfic, where I was not before this thread.... That idea was enough to have already convinced them this had to be junk...
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 14, 2015 9:58:22 GMT -5
Forgetting the content of the book - the book in general is poorly written. I couldn't imagine reading the first one and picking up the second. I found the Amazon reviews to be way more entertaining. So, I went to check out the reviews on Amazon. You're right, they are entertaining. I also read the small excerpt of the book there before reading any of the reviews. I found a lot of the problems people point out are right there in the excerpt, and I noticed them as well! That's bad--really bad, to encounter all these issues in just a couple sample pages. I'm not a literary expert or anything, and don't read much fiction any more. So, I wasn't sure I would notice the issues, but I did. Like I said, that's really bad.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 14, 2015 13:53:52 GMT -5
Forgetting the content of the book - the book in general is poorly written. I couldn't imagine reading the first one and picking up the second. I found the Amazon reviews to be way more entertaining. Poorly written? It was the worst piece of drek I've ever read. I can't imagine how it got past the editor. She bites her lip, says "Oh Sh*t!, Oh F*ck!" and channels her Inner Goddess on every single page. Every bloody page. Most badly-written book since the invention of the printing press.
(Someone gave it to me for my birthday. I couldn't finish it.)
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 14, 2015 14:06:11 GMT -5
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 14, 2015 17:51:22 GMT -5
channels her Inner Goddess on every single page
I'd suggest a 50 Shades of Grey shot game but I don't think hospitals could handle the sudden increase in patients with alcohol poisoning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 20:25:32 GMT -5
Read a review today that called the books "word salad with lite-BDSM dressing."... Lol...
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 14, 2015 20:54:05 GMT -5
Read a review today that called the books "word salad with lite-BDSM dressing."... Lol... Heh. That sounds about right.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 14, 2015 22:02:52 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm pretty surprised by it too. Granted I haven't read the book (and don't plan to) but I did read the plot summary, and I'm amazed BDST soft porn could be so popular and sell so well.
I agree with the OP, it does make one question on some level what women really want. I know the human mind is very intricate, but the books popularity does suggest that deep down, many women find enjoyment in submissive roles. i don't know about that. if i read the lord of the rings does that mean i want to be a hobbit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 22:04:35 GMT -5
You mean you don't want to be a hobbit?
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 14, 2015 22:06:14 GMT -5
You mean you don't want to be a hobbit? d'rather be an elf
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on Feb 14, 2015 22:27:10 GMT -5
I'd totally be a hot elf!!! That would be awesome! We just rented the first installment of the Hobbit in 3D today, we have seen both intsallments before, but I really want to see them in 3D I can't wait for the third installment!!! I was so excited to see the enchanted forest in the movie because it sounded crazy in the book! It was better in the book But the movies are still sweet!
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 15, 2015 0:25:03 GMT -5
Fifty Shades of...MONEY! Fifty Shades of Grey opened Friday with a bang — an impressive $30.2 million haul, according to studio estimates. Box office estimates for the full three-day Valentine's Day weekend from pundits have ventured into the $75-$80 million range and even as high as $100 million. The studio estimates a conservative three-day weekend haul of $67.9 million. Fifty Shades of Grey' whips up $30 million
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Feb 15, 2015 0:49:59 GMT -5
I have to admit, I'm pretty surprised by it too. Granted I haven't read the book (and don't plan to) but I did read the plot summary, and I'm amazed BDST soft porn could be so popular and sell so well.
I agree with the OP, it does make one question on some level what women really want. I know the human mind is very intricate, but the books popularity does suggest that deep down, many women find enjoyment in submissive roles. Or maybe they just find their pleasure in reading erotica like "Fifty Shades".
Reading this thread has been the most entertaining hour I've had in a long time..
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Post by beergut on Feb 15, 2015 3:58:48 GMT -5
My SIL read the whole series, and tried to get me into reading it. I barely made it through a paragraph, said "This was written for a 6th grade audience", and handed the book back to her. It is absolute crap.
The funniest thing was they had sketch artists do a rendering of Grey. People were shocked how much he looked like Robert Pattinson. Well, duh!!! He's Edward Cullen! (Apparently, many of the readers didn't know it was Twilight fanfic.)
My nieces were teenagers when Harry Potter and Twilight came out. I actually read the whole Twilight series so I could have something to talk to them about. It was because of them that I learned what fanfic is, and how prevalent it is.
There is apparently a thriving market for fanfic erotica.
People were writing Harry Potter fan fiction with Harry and Draco in a homosexual relationship.
When people were still waiting for the series to finish, there were tons of fanfics on Hermione and Harry being in a sexual relationship.
There were fanfics where Hermione Granger and Severus Snape are having an affair. The Snape/Granger sexual fanfic genre even has its own descriptor, "snanger fanfic"
There is a whole world out there of fan fiction that you don't know about, and your kids are probably reading about it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 15, 2015 12:49:48 GMT -5
It's a holdover from the times women weren't supposed to enjoy sex, coloured with religious guilt.
If I'm forced into it and tied up, then it's not my fault, and I'm still a good girl.``
Psychology 101
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 16, 2015 13:42:12 GMT -5
Well the movie didn't do too bad at the box office this opening weekend. Took in almost $82 million in the U.S. and $158 million overseas.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 16, 2015 13:45:36 GMT -5
but the books popularity does suggest that deep down, many women find enjoyment in submissive roles
There is submissive and then there is the crap that is Fifty Shades. This is what the author THINKS a submissive would want/be like and Christian is what she thinks a dominate would want/be like.
In reality if she had taken five seconds to do some research via Google or even watch an episode of Real Sex on HBO she would realize no actual submissive would agree to the crap that Anastasia allows and no dominate would EVER behave like Christian.
What she portrays as BDSM isn't even close to what BDSM is.
I'm assuming most people who read the books don't realize that or are able to suspend belief long enough to enjoy the book.
If this is what women actually "want" then I am very concerned for my half of the human race.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 16, 2015 13:46:43 GMT -5
but the books popularity does suggest that deep down, many women find enjoyment in submissive roles
There is submissive and then there is the crap that is Fifty Shades. This is what the author THINKS a submissive would want/be like and Christian is what she thinks a dominate would want/be like.
In reality if she had taken five seconds to do some research via Google or even watch an episode of Real Sex on HBO she would realize no actual submissive would agree to the crap that Anastasia allows and no dominate would EVER behave like Christian.
What she portrays as BDSM isn't even clos to what BDSM and a relationship involving it is. sounds like porn.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 16, 2015 13:47:45 GMT -5
Kinda, but I wouldn't even consider it mediocre porn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 13:48:50 GMT -5
If this is what women actually "want" then I am very concerned for my half of the human race. Well, now I am going to have to read and/or see it, so I know whether or not I'm messed up.
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Post by swamp on Feb 16, 2015 13:51:41 GMT -5
If this is what women actually "want" then I am very concerned for my half of the human race. Well, now I am going to have to read and/or see it, so I know whether or not I'm messed up. you're messed up. trust.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 16, 2015 13:53:22 GMT -5
Kinda, but I wouldn't even consider it mediocre porn. My point is that porn is not a good representation of what actual sex is like just like this movies sounds like it was not a good representation of what BDSM is. The most obvious way is that it is much, much better looking on screen.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 16, 2015 14:00:01 GMT -5
My point is that porn is not a good representation of what actual sex is like just like this movies sounds like it was not a good representation of what BDSM is
True. There is porn I don't like for reasons similar to why I don't like 50 Shades but yet somebody's buying it otherwise they wouldn't make it. Whatever floats your boat it's your bedroom and your business.
I was objecting more to Phoenix's idea that since women buy this book that means they must "want" what is represented in the book. If we're talking a hot sex life with a rich dude I think we can all agree on that.
If you read between the lines though I wouldn't want anyone thinking that the relationship is what I or any woman "wants".
I wish I was back in my Woman's Lit class, this book would have been excellent discussion material.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 14:02:40 GMT -5
Well, now I am going to have to read and/or see it, so I know whether or not I'm messed up. you're messed up. trust.
Yeah, you're probably right.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Feb 16, 2015 14:06:54 GMT -5
My point is that porn is not a good representation of what actual sex is like just like this movies sounds like it was not a good representation of what BDSM is
True. There is porn I don't like for reasons similar to why I don't like 50 Shades but yet somebody's buying it otherwise they wouldn't make it. Whatever floats your boat it's your bedroom and your business.
I was objecting more to Phoenix's idea that since women buy this book that means they must "want" what is represented in the book. If we're talking a hot sex life with a rich dude I think we can all agree on that.
If you read between the lines though I wouldn't want anyone thinking that the relationship is what I or any woman "wants".
I wish I was back in my Woman's Lit class, this book would have been excellent discussion material.
Plenty of people are buying porn, too. I also disagreed with Pheonix's comment. Just because you read a fictional book doesn't mean you aspire to the ideas of that book.
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Post by cael on Feb 16, 2015 14:51:09 GMT -5
Disappointing (not surprising though) that it made so much. And yeah... pretty much any messed up theme of slashing characters together that you could think of, there's fanfic for that. Don't start searching the internet for it, because you will find it and you will never be the same.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 16, 2015 15:33:12 GMT -5
"... no actual submissive would agree to the crap that Anastasia allows and no dominate would EVER behave like Christian."What she portrays as BDSM isn't even close to what BDSM is...."... what actual sex is ..."I find the authoritarian nature of these statements interesting. "... I wouldn't want anyone thinking that the relationship is what I or any woman "wants". ..."Okay, we won't think it is what you want but what if it actually is what some other woman wants. Should we pretend it isn't?
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