Three Muslim students shot dead N Carolina..little media

[deziloooooo]

reports on the incident. In reading the article, report..it seems not a hate crime but just horrible tragic event based on neighborly disagreement over , of all things , a parking space. As tragic a event as it is, three young people dead . early 20's, man, wife and sister of one...should it garner more media attention then it did just because the three victims are Muslim?

www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/students-murdered-university-north-carolina-campus-150211093231033.html

[Ryan]

Only so much time in the day...

[zibazinski]

Really? People die every day. Even in Canada.

[ArchietheDragon]

Just heard the news story on my local radio news. 

[mmhmm]

This has been being discussed in the media around here. Maybe it's because the incident happened in a neighboring state.

[haapai]

I think that the alleged perpetrator turned himself in so quickly that the story didn't have much time to grow.  The shootings occurred yesterday around 5 PM and the suspect turned himself in later that night.  I can't get a bead on when exactly he turned himself in but it appears to have been within hours. 

There was no whodunnit angle to use.  The identity of the shooter appears to have been known immediately.
There was no "where is he angle?" to use.  The suspect was already in custody. 

The "why?" part of the story will probably continue to grow. 

[EVT1]

Just another nut with a gun- probably wouldn't make the national news if the victims weren't Muslim. Sad.

[EVT1]

Feb 11, 2015 10:56:54 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Really? People die every day. Even in Canada.

Not in multiple shooting incidents.

[zibazinski]

Bull. A family was shot dead last night. In paper today. But they were white And probably Christian so who cares, right?

[Deleted]

Feb 11, 2015 12:38:00 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Bull. A family was shot dead last night. In paper today. But they were white And probably Christian so who cares, right?

Ya think?

[billisonboard]

Feb 11, 2015 12:38:00 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

... In paper today. ... so who cares, ..?

The people who put it in the paper?

[Tennesseer]

Feb 11, 2015 12:33:28 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Just another nut with a gun- probably wouldn't make the national news if the victims weren't Muslim. Sad.

Multiple death shootings always make the news regardless of race, religion, gender, etc.

[zibazinski]

Yes, but not with as much emphasis and gusto. 

[deziloooooo]

From reading some of the comments found on the original article.., and there have been many believe  me..there is a good chance that their religion played a part in the action taken against them...who the perp is, posts on social media forums etc...more will come out..If any at all are true I would hope for the ultimate penalty personally...even if it took 15/20 years...usually those people are separated in confinement ,  23 out of 24 hours or so just look at bare walls...

In looking at the photos of victims shown...just very good looking , happy looking young adults just starting out on their young careers, lives...children soon to come I am sure ..one already on a professional career path, two others just ready to start..so two like to wear a head covering...big deal.

Over a parking spot..like to hear more about that. I am in a condo living arrangement..many autos here..each unit has at least one assigned spot and if second vehicle ,  one picks a non assigned guest spot...Usually after a time that spot belongs , unofficially to you, though with guests , new arrivals sometimes it is taken..At times a bit of annoyance if one comes home late and finds it is taken...If often done  one would pick a different spot or possible have a talk with one who is taking the "unofficial your own in your mind spot"  but never such a result contemplated...

Also in my mind..why such a quick surrender by perp so soon after the deed..As if he knew what he was doing , little thought of regret and now willing to suffer the consequences , martre  to the end in his own mind.. little concerns of the pain and suffering he inflicted on family let alone the victims them selves ..for what..

[Tennesseer]

Feb 11, 2015 14:58:39 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes, but not with as much emphasis and gusto. 

Killing one person, let alone three, over a parking spot is a little bit unusual, no? Unusual reasons for killing someone/multiple people always gets more attention.

[mmhmm]

This story has more than one "hook", I'd say. There were multiple victims. The victims were Muslim. The killings took place on a University campus (or very nearby - not sure). The guy killed three people and then turned himself in. The killings were over a parking space. Those are some pretty juicy tidbits for our media.

[zibazinski]

Have you been reading the comments?

[mmhmm]

Feb 11, 2015 17:19:58 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Have you been reading the comments?

Who, me? Nah. I don't read comments on news stories. I'm interested in the news, not in the opinion of every idiot with a computer. 

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Feb 11, 2015 10:40:06 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

reports on the incident. In reading the article, report..it seems not a hate crime but just horrible tragic event based on neighborly disagreement over , of all things , a parking space. As tragic a event as it is, three young people dead . early 20's, man, wife and sister of one...should it garner more media attention then it did just because the three victims are Muslim?

www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/02/students-murdered-university-north-carolina-campus-150211093231033.html

They can't seem to link the shooter to the TEA Party, so don't look for much coverage.  By the accounts so far, the man who is charged with executing the three muslim students is a "vehement atheist" whose facebook page indicates he's a leftwing kook:

His Facebook Likes included the Huffington Post, Rachel Maddow, the Southern Poverty Law Center, Freedom from Religion Foundation, Bill Nye “The Science Guy,” Neil deGrasse Tyson, Gay Marriage groups and similar progressive pages.


Hicks is a vehement atheist, according to his Facebook page, where he frequently posts anti-religion musings.

Hicks frequently posted quotes of prominent comedians and atheists, including the prominent British atheist, professor and author Richard Dawkins.

www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/11/vehement-atheist-charged-with-executing-3-muslims-students/

Yet another murderous rampage by an unstable leftist.  Scary stuff.

[zibazinski]

The comments are all over the place. Pretty interesting.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

It will be especially interesting to follow this story in light of the fact that thanks to Rush, the concept that there is a "narrative" is out there now having been acknowledged, and it is being discussed.

The coverage of these kinds of stories is always intriguing because this certainly does NOT fit the narrative.  There's nowhere in the narrative to pigeon-hole this one.  What's worse (for the purveyors of the narrative) is that it's the exact OPPOSITE of the narrative.  If we had more atheists, according to the narrative, we could all light candles and sing along to John Lennon's "Imagine" and world peace would break out.  According to the narrative, it's those angry white men clinging to their guns and their Bibles that do this stuff-- left wingers don't execute people with firearms, they don't even OWN firearms.  According to the narrative.

To familiarize yourself with the concept of the narrative, I invite you to read:  www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/02/10/the_news_narrative_is_everywhere

You will get more out of this discussion if you know what you're talking about if and when you decide to respond to this post.

[Tennesseer]

Well at least the gunman didn't blast the three with a boat horn before he murdered them.  The shooter was quite the gun rights advocate.

[EVT1]

Too bad nobody with a carry permit was around to save these folks- oh wait, the shooter had one

So forgetting about whatever the hell Rush is yammering about- what is the take here?

Was atheism to blame?  Politics?  Science?  Sounds to me like 'they' are rushing to blame 'the left'-  so I guess people are not responsible for their actions.

I think the only 'narrative' out there is in Rush's head.

[Value Buy]

The article I read about him talked about his anti religious stance and being an avowed atheist.

Some of his quotes were hard to decipher if it was about a particular religion.

He was not going to take anything from any religion that did not acknowledge his rights to being an atheist and felt he  could dish out acceptable punishment for anyone disliking his views.

Definitly not a stable person, but darn, if it does not feel to be more than that.

[mmhmm]

Feb 11, 2015 18:46:29 GMT -5 EVT1 said:

Too bad nobody with a carry permit was around to save these folks- oh wait, the shooter had one

So forgetting about whatever the hell Rush is yammering about- what is the take here?

Was atheism to blame?  Politics?  Science?  Sounds to me like 'they' are rushing to blame 'the left'-  so I guess people are not responsible for their actions.

I think the only 'narrative' out there is in Rush's head.

Personally, I'd put it down to nuttiness on the part of the shooter. Pretty simple, really.

[deziloooooo]

Feb 11, 2015 17:43:50 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

It will be especially interesting to follow this story in light of the fact that thanks to Rush, the concept that there is a "narrative" is out there now having been acknowledged, and it is being discussed.

The coverage of these kinds of stories is always intriguing because this certainly does NOT fit the narrative.  There's nowhere in the narrative to pigeon-hole this one.  What's worse (for the purveyors of the narrative) is that it's the exact OPPOSITE of the narrative.  If we had more atheists, according to the narrative, we could all light candles and sing along to John Lennon's "Imagine" and world peace would break out.  According to the narrative, it's those angry white men clinging to their guns and their Bibles that do this stuff-- left wingers don't execute people with firearms, they don't even OWN firearms.  According to the narrative.

To familiarize yourself with the concept of the narrative, I invite you to read:  www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/02/10/the_news_narrative_is_everywhere

You will get more out of this discussion if you know what you're talking about if and when you decide to respond to this post.

OK Paul , thanks for the invite and I did..read the Limbough blurb..first a skim and then a bit deeper...I guess I am a bit dense..I admit it but don't follow your feeling that one needs to read it to get more out of this discussion...concept of the narrative....Possible you can explain it for me, what I am missing.. in your eyes  probably one of the less bright ...but please, no more of Rushes links..one was enough...Thank you..

[Opti]

I second or third the narrative is Rush's creation more than anything else.

Whatever it is, it is. But if you are talking biases in search of story, yep they

exist for many people left, right, center, etc. Rush seems to breed bias.

[Opti]

There's a Wikipedia entry already. I can see it just being a parking issue.

Shooting them in their home though, that's real angry or something.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chapel_Hill_shooting

[deziloooooo]

Feb 11, 2015 19:52:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

There's a Wikipedia entry already. I can see it just being a parking issue.

Shooting them in their home though, that's real angry or something.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chapel_Hill_shooting

After reading the wicki account you can get confused as to what may have gone down and the reason for it all..In this case, the only good thing is the perp did not do away with himself so possible , though it won't bring back the three victims, we'll get a answer to the why..?  There are more victims too as you can see..parents, siblings..wife of the perp..not sure if kids involved ...who are all going to be affected for the rest of their lives..

[Tennesseer]

Feb 11, 2015 20:52:13 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Feb 11, 2015 19:52:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

There's a Wikipedia entry already. I can see it just being a parking issue.

Shooting them in their home though, that's real angry or something.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Chapel_Hill_shooting

After reading the wicki account you can get confused as to what may have gone down and the reason for it all..In this case, the only good thing is the perp did not do away with himself so possible , though it won't bring back the three victims, we'll get a answer to the why..?  There are more victims too as you can see..parents, siblings..wife of the perp..not sure if kids involved ...who are all going to be affected for the rest of their lives..

All because he could not control his anger.