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Post by b2r on Feb 5, 2015 17:03:03 GMT -5
You could blame it on the teleprompter, but for the fact that the story has changed over the years. 2003 2013 2015 The apology. NBC’s Brian Williams recants Iraq story after soldiers protestWilliams repeated the claim Friday during NBC’s coverage of a public tribute at a New York Rangers hockey game for a retired soldier that had provided ground security for the grounded helicopters, a game to which Williams accompanied him. In an interview with Stars and Stripes, he said he had misremembered the events and was sorry. The admission came after crew members on the 159th Aviation Regiment’s Chinook that was hit by two rockets and small arms fire told Stars and Stripes that the NBC anchor was nowhere near that aircraft or two other Chinooks flying in the formation that took fire. Williams arrived in the area about an hour later on another helicopter after the other three had made an emergency landing, the crew members said. www.stripes.com/news/us/nbc-s-brian-williams-recants-iraq-story-after-soldiers-protest-1.327792
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 5, 2015 17:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by b2r on Feb 5, 2015 17:09:09 GMT -5
Maybe he's planning a Whitehouse run!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2015 19:49:45 GMT -5
not the first time this has happened. won't be the last.
unforgivable, but not really unique.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 6, 2015 7:37:39 GMT -5
What an ass.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 6, 2015 9:38:31 GMT -5
Well, I am a little mixed on this.
I know I look back at my military service, and probably played it up a little after I got back. Especially while in a bar after a few brews. Then again, I was in the military.
I think I was anyway. Maybe I made it up!
OK, I was in the military. And I said not a big deal when I got back, but I do believe we all can sort of blow the actual details in our minds beyond what they actually were, unless you were in actual combat, then I say go for it. If you want to enlarge the story you earned it. Just do not write a book or become a talking head. And definitely a politician!
I am surprised it was Stars and Stripes that blew the story. NBC is in bed with the Administration, so I am surprised the story was debunked.
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Post by OldCoyote on Feb 6, 2015 9:50:20 GMT -5
It is sad that we hold reporters to be more honest than our law enforcement.
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Post by Opti on Feb 6, 2015 10:27:42 GMT -5
Well, I am a little mixed on this.
I know I look back at my military service, and probably played it up a little after I got back. Especially while in a bar after a few brews. Then again, I was in the military.
I think I was anyway. Maybe I made it up!
OK, I was in the military. And I said not a big deal when I got back, but I do believe we all can sort of blow the actual details in our minds beyond what they actually were, unless you were in actual combat, then I say go for it. If you want to enlarge the story you earned it. Just do not write a book or become a talking head. And definitely a politician!
I am surprised it was Stars and Stripes that blew the story. NBC is in bed with the Administration, so I am surprised the story was debunked. I'm closest to VB on this one. I'm not sure if Brian Williams started remembering it in his mind incorrectly or he stupidly did it to be more dramatic.
I'm glad a retraction was issued and wish he hadn't screwed it up in the Rangers video clip. Makes it too much about him instead of a simple we met in Iraq ... story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 20:28:31 GMT -5
He could redeem himself reporting from Syria.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 6, 2015 20:41:36 GMT -5
At the end of tonight's broadcast, I believe he said someone else would be on the nightly news tomorrow. I really was not paying too much attention, as it was the very end of the newscast
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 6, 2015 20:48:48 GMT -5
At the end of tonight's broadcast, I believe he said someone else would be on the nightly news tomorrow. I really was not paying too much attention, as it was the very end of the newscast Lester Holt anchors NBC's Weekend Edition (tomorrow is Saturday). Williams anchors the NBC Nightly News Monday through Friday.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 6, 2015 20:50:26 GMT -5
At the end of tonight's broadcast, I believe he said someone else would be on the nightly news tomorrow. I really was not paying too much attention, as it was the very end of the newscast Lester Holt anchors NBC's Weekend Edition (tomorrow is Saturday). Williams anchors the NBC Nightly News Monday through Friday. yes, today is Friday............. Darn, should have caught that.
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Post by Opti on Feb 6, 2015 22:12:19 GMT -5
Lester Holt anchors NBC's Weekend Edition (tomorrow is Saturday). Williams anchors the NBC Nightly News Monday through Friday. yes, today is Friday............. Darn, should have caught that.
Nevertheless, probably good timing for NBC and Brian Williams.
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Post by zibazinski on Feb 7, 2015 13:48:48 GMT -5
No one ever being shot down ever forgets it. Every last second of it.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Feb 7, 2015 16:07:23 GMT -5
Maybe he took fire near that body he saw floating by in the French Quarter during Katrina
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 7, 2015 17:45:30 GMT -5
Considering all of the outright liars in the media why is Williams taking all the heat? Because he lied about personal experiences rather than lie about shit in general?
There are entire organizations that lie as a function of their business model. I guess maybe because he was held up as a neutral source of reporting. And the question there is did he make shit up when it came to the actual news or just embellishing his persona. IMO if you lie about the news you are gone- but not in this country.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Feb 7, 2015 18:29:34 GMT -5
Personally I hold newscasters in the same light as politicians - not to be trusted whatsoever. I am so jaded in my old age
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Feb 7, 2015 21:53:31 GMT -5
It's forgivable. Too much daily stress. Just forget it and go on. Chalk it up to misreporting like the Chinese airline pilot's names.
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 8, 2015 4:27:31 GMT -5
Well, I am a little mixed on this.
I know I look back at my military service, and probably played it up a little after I got back. Especially while in a bar after a few brews. Then again, I was in the military.
I think I was anyway. Maybe I made it up!
OK, I was in the military. And I said not a big deal when I got back, but I do believe we all can sort of blow the actual details in our minds beyond what they actually were, unless you were in actual combat, then I say go for it. If you want to enlarge the story you earned it. Just do not write a book or become a talking head. And definitely a politician!
I am surprised it was Stars and Stripes that blew the story. NBC is in bed with the Administration, so I am surprised the story was debunked. Actually.... "unless you were in actual combat, then I say go for it. If you want to enlarge the story you earned it." If so , there really is no need to enlarge it or puff it up...
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Post by deziloooooo on Feb 8, 2015 4:31:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that....I like him and enjoy his work....I'm thinking the embellishment was more to build up the story for the man himself not himself {Williams..}...he forgot the cardinal rule ..there are folks out there always looking to discredit and zing others where ever possible..looking for every and any variation that might bring discredit on ...and he got caught in that...
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 8, 2015 9:10:52 GMT -5
We can only imagine what a coffee table chat between Mr. Williams and Ms. Clinton would sound like. "You think that's bad? Let me tell you about the time I was killed in Vietnam."
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Post by Blonde Granny on Feb 8, 2015 9:27:22 GMT -5
For whatever reason, Brian Williams decided that HE wanted to be the story instead of just reporting the events as they were.
Too bad Mr. Williams, your mouth and your imagination were running wild. This while those who actually were in those situations remained quiet and just did their jobs.
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 8, 2015 17:05:29 GMT -5
We can only imagine what a coffee table chat between Mr. Williams and Ms. Clinton would sound like. "You think that's bad? Let me tell you about the time I was killed in Vietnam." I think you meant to say John Kerry.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Feb 9, 2015 23:11:16 GMT -5
Incidentally, when did people start calling lying "misremembering"?
If I claim I haven't eaten a single sweet all week and my wife points out that I picked up a muffin at Starbucks on Monday, that's misremembering.
If I'm not in the middle of a group of helicopters taking rocket fire and I impress my buddies with tales of being in a group of helicopters taking rocket fire, that's a lie.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 10, 2015 0:38:56 GMT -5
We can only imagine what a coffee table chat between Mr. Williams and Ms. Clinton would sound like. "You think that's bad? Let me tell you about the time I was killed in Vietnam." I think you meant to say John Kerry. Kerry was in Vietnam- were you? I call that offensive.
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Post by EVT1 on Feb 10, 2015 0:40:53 GMT -5
Incidentally, when did people start calling lying "misremembering"? Iraq
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Post by Value Buy on Feb 10, 2015 8:32:01 GMT -5
I think you meant to say John Kerry. Kerry was in Vietnam- were you? I call that offensive. Since you asked, yes I was. December 1969 to February 1971 Fourteen months. Unlike Kerry, I was drafted and sent over there, and was proud of my service to my country.
Offensive? Kerry totally blew his time in country out of the water on what he actually did while there. And to this day I sincerely believe he is a liar and blowhard.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 10, 2015 8:36:36 GMT -5
Kerry was in Vietnam- were you? I call that offensive. Since you asked, yes I was. December 1969 to February 1971 Fourteen months. Unlike Kerry, I was draftedand sent over there, and was proud of my service to my country.
Offensive? Kerry totally blew his time in country out of the water on what he actually did while there. And to this day I sincerely believe he is a liar and blowhard.
Yes, you are different from Kerry. Kerry enlisted.
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