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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2015 11:44:53 GMT -5
Another recent massacre by Islamic terrorists that we haven't heard much about in the shadow of the Paris attacks.
2,000 feared killed in 'deadliest' Boko Haram attack in Nigeria Kano, Nigeria (CNN)—Boko Haram militants opened fire on northern Nigerian villages, leaving bodies scattered everywhere and as many as 2,000 people feared dead, officials said. "The attack on Baga and surrounding towns looks as if it could be Boko Haram's deadliest act," Amnesty International said in a statement. When they arrived, they unloaded motorcycles and pursued residents who fled into the bush, firing indiscriminately, said Baba Abba Hassan, a local district head. Local officials reported death tolls ranging from hundreds to as many as 2,000 people. "Dead bodies litter the bushes in the area and it is still not safe to go and pick them (up) for burial," said Musa Bukar, the chairman of the local government where Baga is located. "Some people who hid in their homes were burned alive." Raid lasted for days. www.cnn.com/2015/01/09/africa/boko-haram-violence/
Boko Haram is an offshoot of the same Wahabbist school system that spawned practically all Islamic terrorism. anyone here read "Sleeping With The Devil"?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2015 11:50:35 GMT -5
i think we are all going to be in a world of trouble in the middle east (and northeast africa) if we keep feeding this fire.
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Post by Ombud on Jan 11, 2015 12:14:56 GMT -5
I have no idea what the Boston Bomber was, but being from Russia probably not Muslim. Yes, they were / are Muslim but no, they are NOT from Russia, they are Chechan from Kyrgyzstan. Although Putin wants to expand Russia back to the territorial boundaries of the disbanded USSR, it has not happened .... yet
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 11, 2015 12:23:08 GMT -5
Russia is a huge country and many of its ex-Russian satellite countries are most certainly Muslim.
There are quite a few Muslims in Russia.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 11, 2015 13:16:02 GMT -5
I have no idea what the Boston Bomber was, but being from Russia probably not Muslim. Yes, they were / are Muslim but no, they are NOT from Russia, they are Chechan from Kyrgyzstan. Although Putin wants to expand Russia back to the territorial boundaries of the disbanded USSR, it has not happened .... yet moreover, there is enough that has happened in Afghanistan to make a world's worth of hate for Russia and the US among Muslims in general, and the radical element in particular. we did that country no favors.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 11, 2015 14:58:07 GMT -5
Yes, they were / are Muslim but no, they are NOT from Russia, they are Chechan from Kyrgyzstan. Although Putin wants to expand Russia back to the territorial boundaries of the disbanded USSR, it has not happened .... yet moreover, there is enough that has happened in Afghanistan to make a world's worth of hate for Russia and the US among Muslims in general, and the radical element in particular. we did that country no favors. The enemy of my enemy is my frien.....what?...my enemy.
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Post by Opti on Jan 11, 2015 19:34:37 GMT -5
Russia is a huge country and many of its ex-Russian satellite countries are most certainly Muslim.
There are quite a few Muslims in Russia. Thanks Welts, that's what I should have said. I'm not good at remembering former parts of Russia nor similar countries that surround Russia. And I sit corrected that there are Muslims there. I guess I am more familiar with Russian Orthodox, etc.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 8:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 8:52:47 GMT -5
I knew someone would make the erroneous connection to the holocaust- but the Jews weren't lining up and volunteering to be slaughtered. We would not kill anyone that did not ask, in writing, and confirm by their signature and a video-taped sworn oath that they wanted to be martyred for allah.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:00:53 GMT -5
Seriously? I mean...really? You can't actually support & believe in this. There's bantering and baiting to get your jollies and then there's just crazy & offensive. Oh, I can. And from the bottom of my heart. If there are people who we can get to willingly commit to murdering infidels at the expense of their own lives because they believe so strongly in their religious right to murder people who do not share the same beliefs, and they are convinced that if they kill themselves doing so they will go to heaven and get their 70 virgins or whatever-- then those people deserve to die immediately and ridding the world of them in a systematic way, is the best way to make sure they don't fall into the hands of people who can manipulate them to carry out their beliefs, and conduct murderous operations to kill innocent people. We're in WWIII. It's radical islam vs. civilization, and the best way to win the war is to kill those already irretrievably committed to radical islam's jihadist murder scheme. I think it should be a multi-pronged campaign, too-- very sophisticated. We should get their best and brightest by enticing them with the prospect of obtaining or developing nuclear, biological, and/or chemical weapons and then killing them. We should be quite systematic, and utterly ruthless about this. The key finding of the 9/11 report was this: they were at war with us, we weren't at war with them. It's time to wake up, accept what must be done, and get on with the job.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:02:55 GMT -5
I read free speak and debate being reported in that article.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:03:21 GMT -5
Russia is a huge country and many of its ex-Russian satellite countries are most certainly Muslim.
There are quite a few Muslims in Russia. They were islamist radicals. Beyond a doubt. And they shouldn't be on trial because what they did was an act of war- and they did it outside the bounds of the Geneva convention, not fighting in the uniform of any country, but rather as illegal combatants who are eligible to be tried by a military tribunal, and executed. These trials make a spectacle of the United States, they show weakness, and they invite further aggression.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:04:21 GMT -5
I read free speak and debate being reported in that article. Oh, I do, too. I just don't accept that free speech is up for debate. Especially among "journalists". Reveals a HUGE problem at Al Jazeera.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:09:39 GMT -5
Russia is a huge country and many of its ex-Russian satellite countries are most certainly Muslim.
There are quite a few Muslims in Russia. They were islamist radicals. Beyond a doubt. And they shouldn't be on trial because what they did was an act of war- and they did it outside the bounds of the Geneva convention, not fighting in the uniform of any country, but rather as illegal combatants who are eligible to be tried by a military tribunal, and executed. These trials make a spectacle of the United States, they show weakness, and they invite further aggression. I believe it is a mistake to elevate their status above that of common criminal. It shows strength that we will not allow them to declare "war".
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:14:16 GMT -5
Speaking of censorship and political correctness (which is just a nice way of saying censorship), I watched CNN at a local hotel I was at for a conference on January 9th in the morning-- and at least twice, CNN's Chris Cuomo called one of the hostage takers in France an "African American" trying to avoid calling him Black... Not that the race of the man is even important, but after that he kept calling him "The man of African decent" (While his picture is on the screen, of course)... Pathetic.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:15:49 GMT -5
I read free speak and debate being reported in that article. Oh, I do, too. I just don't accept that free speech is up for debate. Especially among "journalists". Reveals a HUGE problem at Al Jazeera. I think it is legitimate question of how far one can push without reasonable expectation of a push back.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:21:36 GMT -5
They were islamist radicals. Beyond a doubt. And they shouldn't be on trial because what they did was an act of war- and they did it outside the bounds of the Geneva convention, not fighting in the uniform of any country, but rather as illegal combatants who are eligible to be tried by a military tribunal, and executed. These trials make a spectacle of the United States, they show weakness, and they invite further aggression. I believe it is a mistake to elevate their status above that of common criminal. It shows strength that we will not allow them to declare "war". They're part of an international movement and a geopolitical force. It doesn't matter that they are "lone wolves" or that these radicals "self-activate". We need to accept we're at war, clearly define our enemy, and start to move as a united international front against radical islam. THEY should fear US. And nations that promote their ideology, fund their efforts- to include Saudi Arabia- should be prepared for a visit. Not an invasion mind you- just some carefully planned assassinations. From heads of state, to lowly "instructors" at a school of islamist hate and indoctrination in Gaza, or Riyadh-- you should know that on any random Tuesday, you might wake up dead, or you might ingest some poison at a local restaurant. Basically, radical islamists everywhere should know that they can never be safe, they can never rest, and no cave is to deep or dark for them to hide in. The world must declare openly that the objective of the entire family of nations is to exterminate-- to utterly destroy, and completely eradicate radical islam. Say a word- and you're marked for death.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:24:19 GMT -5
Oh, I do, too. I just don't accept that free speech is up for debate. Especially among "journalists". Reveals a HUGE problem at Al Jazeera. I think it is legitimate question of how far one can push without reasonable expectation of a push back. Is murder "push back"? Should we expect to be murdered if we make fun of someone's religious beliefs? Did Christians murder people for the crucifix in a jar of urine? Did the establishment media run articles about how those murders were somehow to be "expected"? It's time to STOP apologizing for radical islam, and start facing it down.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:29:27 GMT -5
Speaking of censorship and political correctness (which is just a nice way of saying censorship), I watched CNN at a local hotel I was at for a conference on January 9th in the morning-- and at least twice, CNN's Chris Cuomo called one of the hostage takers in France an "African American" trying to avoid calling him Black... Not that the race of the man is even important, but after that he kept calling him "The man of African decent" (While his picture is on the screen, of course)... Pathetic. At least he stopped calling a Frenchman an American. Why is it important or significant to refer to a person of African decent as "Black"? I know that is a term that was generally acceptable for a period of time but was not prior and seems to be fading out currently. I get that it is cool with you, but you are being a square holding onto it. Can you dig what I am laying down man?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:34:38 GMT -5
Speaking of censorship and political correctness (which is just a nice way of saying censorship), I watched CNN at a local hotel I was at for a conference on January 9th in the morning-- and at least twice, CNN's Chris Cuomo called one of the hostage takers in France an "African American" trying to avoid calling him Black... Not that the race of the man is even important, but after that he kept calling him "The man of African decent" (While his picture is on the screen, of course)... Pathetic. At least he stopped calling a Frenchman an American. Why is it important or significant to refer to a person of African decent as "Black"? I know that is a term that was generally acceptable for a period of time but was not prior and seems to be fading out currently. I get that it is cool with you, but you are being a square holding onto it. Can you dig what I am laying down man? Actually, this illustrates the problem with identifying black people as "African-American". We call white people white. I really don't see the problem with it. Are you offended by it? I'm not.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:36:49 GMT -5
... Say a word- and you're marked for death. ... Is murder "push back"? ...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:41:15 GMT -5
You're getting the idea. It's time to flip the script. The difference of course is that one person is drawing cartoons, and the other is making death threats, and even threats of wiping entire nations, and entire groups of people off the planet in the name of allah.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:41:39 GMT -5
At least he stopped calling a Frenchman an American. Why is it important or significant to refer to a person of African decent as "Black"? I know that is a term that was generally acceptable for a period of time but was not prior and seems to be fading out currently. I get that it is cool with you, but you are being a square holding onto it. Can you dig what I am laying down man? Actually, this illustrates the problem with identifying black people as "African-American". We call white people white. I really don't see the problem with it. Are you offended by it? I'm not. I don't have a problem with any term not used to denigrate. It seems like you are the one that has the problem with how others choose to identify a person.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:44:26 GMT -5
Actually, this illustrates the problem with identifying black people as "African-American". We call white people white. I really don't see the problem with it. Are you offended by it? I'm not. I don't have a problem with any term not used to denigrate. It seems like you are the one that has the problem with how others choose to identify a person. Does black, or if you prefer brown, or how about ISLAMIC RADICALS of Algerian decent (which is the proper description of these two) seem offensive? I don't know anyone other than stuffy white liberals who can even manage to feign offense at the term 'black' used to describe black people. I'm white. Some people are black. No biggie.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 12, 2015 9:45:19 GMT -5
Speaking of censorship and political correctness (which is just a nice way of saying censorship), I watched CNN at a local hotel I was at for a conference on January 9th in the morning-- and at least twice, CNN's Chris Cuomo called one of the hostage takers in France an "African American" trying to avoid calling him Black... Not that the race of the man is even important, but after that he kept calling him "The man of African decent" (While his picture is on the screen, of course)... Pathetic. And the sheep howled. "It was small error that was quickly corrected on air, but that didn’t stop conservatives on Twitter from using the moment to highlight CNN’s alleged “political correctness,” led by TheBlaze’s Dana Loesch." Anderson Cooper Corrects Cuomo’s Description of French Terrorist as ‘African-American’
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:45:47 GMT -5
You're getting the idea. It's time to flip the script. The difference of course is that one person is drawing cartoons, and the other is making death threats, and even threats of wiping entire nations, and entire groups of people off the planet in the name of allah. I had the understanding to start: you are saying that we need to tell them that they are correct in their acts by adopting them ourselves.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 9:52:45 GMT -5
... calling him Black... ... Are you "white" or are you White?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 9:54:32 GMT -5
You're getting the idea. It's time to flip the script. The difference of course is that one person is drawing cartoons, and the other is making death threats, and even threats of wiping entire nations, and entire groups of people off the planet in the name of allah. I had the understanding to start: you are saying that we need to tell them that they are correct in their acts by adopting them ourselves. No. We do not kill people for drawing cartoons, or disagreeing with us. We kill people who are part of a faction engaged in war with the United States. We confirm their commitment to the cause of war against us first. We give them the ability to "opt out". Upon their refusal, however, to renounce their islamic jihad and intent to murder Americans and inspire others to do so, we respond without mercy, and we simply kill them.
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Post by billisonboard on Jan 12, 2015 10:04:03 GMT -5
I had the understanding to start: you are saying that we need to tell them that they are correct in their acts by adopting them ourselves. No. We do not kill people for drawing cartoons, or disagreeing with us. ... Half true.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 12, 2015 10:12:18 GMT -5
... calling him Black... ... Are you "white" or are you White? You're really gonna split this hair?
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