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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 17:33:53 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016 Tweet tweet! Don't be too quick to call Bush a winner and definitely don't post poll stats. You know what happened to that other poster who went on and on about how it was in the bag for Romney and the polls supported his prediction in 2012. This is why I prefer a Romney Bush ticket. I would vote for Jeb, but I am not sure about the rest of America. I do not see a Romney Bush ticket getting beat by any Democratic ticket combination right now. Hillary might be a strong candidate, but who do you put on the ticket with her? Right now the Dems are facing slim pickings at the top of the ticket. There is possibly a Democratic Governor out there that MIGHT HELP, but I am not sure it would be enough to get Hilary in.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 16, 2014 17:53:05 GMT -5
Don't be too quick to call Bush a winner and definitely don't post poll stats. You know what happened to that other poster who went on and on about how it was in the bag for Romney and the polls supported his prediction in 2012. This is why I prefer a Romney Bush ticket. I would vote for Jeb, but I am not sure about the rest of America. I do not see a Romney Bush ticket getting beat by any Democratic ticket combination right now. Hilary might be a strong candidate, but who do you put on the ticket with her? Right now the Dems are facing slim pickings at the top of the ticket. There is possibly a Democratic Governor out there that MIGHT HELP, but I am not sure it would be enough to get Hilary in.
Romney's track record running for president isn't so hot. The third time is not always a charm.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 18:10:13 GMT -5
Hey, I repeat, I love the idea!
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Post by dondub on Dec 16, 2014 18:10:29 GMT -5
Currently enjoying Ben Shapiro KTTH 770am trashing Jeb Bush.
He just went through a stretch where he used the word vomit a lot.
And he followed that with the claim the Hillary caused the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood all across the globe.
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Post by b2r on Dec 16, 2014 19:13:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 20:06:22 GMT -5
Romney could win this time... because his whole reason for defeat was proven (and WELL proven at that) to be flawed.
Romney lost... not to a Democrat... but to a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.
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Post by rockon on Dec 16, 2014 20:14:46 GMT -5
That B word is still stuck in my short term memory. Not ready for another Bush just yet!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 20:35:03 GMT -5
I believe that Jeb doesn't have a chance considering the incompetent president that his brother was, as well as the lackluster president his father was.
Once is an anomaly, twice is a coincidence... do we really want to risk "third time is proof"?
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Post by EVT1 on Dec 16, 2014 21:30:22 GMT -5
Sure beats a thread about Hilary, and the nut job from the Northeast that makes Hilary look like a right wing nut job! She might be far left- but she is no nut job. And one of the few politicians corporate America can't buy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 21:32:39 GMT -5
Sure beats a thread about Hilary, and the nut job from the Northeast that makes Hilary look like a right wing nut job! She might be far left- but she is no nut job. And one of the few politicians corporate America can't buy She's Ross Perot?
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Post by dondub on Dec 16, 2014 21:48:59 GMT -5
Romney lost... not to a Democrat... but to a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.
In spite of what anyone thinks, I have proof that Romney lost because the other guy had more Americans vote for him. That's usually how it works.
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Post by Shooby on Dec 16, 2014 22:04:37 GMT -5
Hillary won't even win the Dem nomination. Mark this thread. if she runs, she will win the nomination. mark this thread. Consider it marked. I will mail you a box of chocolates if that happens. Hows that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 22:42:43 GMT -5
Romney lost... not to a Democrat... but to a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.
In spite of what anyone thinks, I have proof that Romney lost because the other guy had more Americans vote for him. That's usually how it works. Yes... He had more votes. I don't think anyone disputes that... but how did he GET those votes. He got them because more people had a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.
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Post by resolution on Dec 16, 2014 23:00:57 GMT -5
Bernie Sanders is running, and he may pull off enough of the left wing vote to help out the Republicans.
I like Elizabeth Warren's integrity but I think she is too liberal to be electable. Something devastating to the middle class would have to happen before the general public would vote for her in large numbers. If the Republicans take over completely in 2016 and loot Social Security or something like that, she will be too old for a 2020 election.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2014 0:20:10 GMT -5
if she runs, she will win the nomination. mark this thread. Consider it marked. I will mail you a box of chocolates if that happens. Hows that? how about i will mail YOU a box of chocolate if it does NOT happen. i will take the equivalent in jerkey.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2014 0:21:48 GMT -5
Romney lost... not to a Democrat... but to a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.
In spite of what anyone thinks, I have proof that Romney lost because the other guy had more Americans vote for him. That's usually how it works. Yes... He had more votes. I don't think anyone disputes that... but how did he GET those votes. by having more registered voters vote for him, of course.He got them because more people had a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief. that's right. same way that Bush won in 2004. very disappointing, but it is how things go.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2014 0:23:47 GMT -5
Bernie Sanders is running, and he may pull off enough of the left wing vote to help out the Republicans.
I like Elizabeth Warren's integrity but I think she is too liberal to be electable. Something devastating to the middle class would have to happen before the general public would vote for her in large numbers. If the Republicans take over completely in 2016 and loot Social Security or something like that, she will be too old for a 2020 election. i would count on Democrats winning one or both branches of congress back.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 17, 2014 0:25:48 GMT -5
Pray GOD that DEMS run someone other than Hillary so I have someone to vote for. You vote Democrat ?
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 17, 2014 0:26:30 GMT -5
if she runs, they will run her. but who cares? she is pro-interventionist, so i am not voting for her. If republicans can't come up with someone better than Jeb, then I'm voting for her. I hope they can come up with someone good this year.You WANT to vote Republican?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 17, 2014 0:28:41 GMT -5
that was an interesting pair of posts, john.
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Post by EVT1 on Dec 17, 2014 0:39:48 GMT -5
They would loot Social Security- even governor Bush was talking about handing it over to the banker dicks until more urgent matters came up.
Anything short of 'drowning the government in a bathtub' and repealing the New Deal is not on the table.
I am amazed at the support they have- considering they don't even hide it now- they come right out and say what they want to do and a lot of the people that will be obliterated by their policies vote for them like clockwork. I am fine with that- I only support the ones that will get the shaft and do not want it.
That's kind of why on the other thread I said I am not voting anymore- if the majority in this country wants it- let them have it- I will be just fine either way. I can see the populist nuclear bomb that would go off in a few years after. Maybe that is the only way we get there. The only way to really move forward is to be set face to face with the reality of what the country apparently wants- so do it Elect Perry or Cruz And make sure you toss Ryan in there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 4:55:09 GMT -5
Yes... He had more votes. I don't think anyone disputes that... but how did he GET those votes. by having more registered voters vote for him, of course.He got them because more people had a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief. that's right. same way that Bush won in 2004. very disappointing, but it is how things go. Really? Are you playing the "Why?" game that two year old's play? Yes... He had more registered voters vote for him. I don't think anyone disputes that... but how did he GET those voters to vote for him? He got them to because more people had a belief in the man running IN SPITE OF proof that he wasn't worth the belief.And yes, Bush did it too. Have you ever seen me deny that? ETA: personal note, I wish you'd quit replying INSIDE what you quote of me... it makes it a royal pain to reply to. One "inner quote reply" isn't too bad, but when you do multiples... I have to decide "is the reply I want to make worth the aggravation of figuring out how to point to what exactly I am replying to?".
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Post by marvholly on Dec 17, 2014 7:53:50 GMT -5
I have VERY much had it w/political aristocracy after 2 Bushes and 2 Clinton (president, senator, Sec State). Would MUCH prefer to not see any more run for let alone win a major political office. However, I don’t think the country is ready for someone as WAAAY liberal as Warren & I personally am not turned on by Gov bridgeissue & Mr. isolation.
I, too, am looking for socially liberal, fiscally conservative candidates at ALL levels of government from local trustee up & including president of the US. Seems scarcer than hen’s teeth – esp in metro Chicago.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 17, 2014 9:16:39 GMT -5
They've already looted social security which is why it's in trouble. I'm not voting for a Bush or a Clinton. I will vote Dem over Pub if they run someone decent.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 17, 2014 9:40:53 GMT -5
They've already looted social security which is why it's in trouble. I'm not voting for a Bush or a Clinton. I will vote Dem over Pub if they run someone decent. Value Buy dislikes this post
Since we do not have karmas to disappear here, I just have to post I dislike this attitude!
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 17, 2014 9:43:08 GMT -5
I get it. It makes me puke to vote dem but I won't vote for Jeb, no way no how.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 17, 2014 9:44:18 GMT -5
They've already looted social security which is why it's in trouble. I'm not voting for a Bush or a Clinton. I will vote Dem over Pub if they run someone decent. Value Buy dislikes this post
Since we do not have karmas to disappear here, I just have to post I dislike this attitude!
Why?
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Post by billisonboard on Dec 17, 2014 9:46:16 GMT -5
I get it. It makes me puke to vote dem but I won't vote for Jeb, no way no how. You might want to look into other potential options than Republican and Democrat.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 17, 2014 9:47:21 GMT -5
Grumpy cat?
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 17, 2014 9:48:47 GMT -5
I get it. It makes me puke to vote dem but I won't vote for Jeb, no way no how. You might want to look into other potential options than Republican and Democrat. The last time Americans did that, they let Clinton in through the backdoor, with Perot siphoning votes away from Bush.
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