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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 14:49:09 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 14:53:58 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea to me!
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Post by dondub on Dec 16, 2014 14:59:58 GMT -5
Better run that by the Tea Party. Two RINO's in one!
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Post by Shooby on Dec 16, 2014 15:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by Angel! on Dec 16, 2014 15:05:56 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet!
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Post by kittensaver on Dec 16, 2014 15:07:53 GMT -5
Oh Lordy - I am soooooooooo DONE with Bushes!
However, as always - YMMV.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 15:08:34 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet! Sure beats a thread about Hilary, and the nut job from the Northeast that makes Hilary look like a right wing nut job!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:09:36 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet! two things. one: Mitt already lost. he would be wise to not run again. two: yes, Jeb is the presumed front runner, but he is also not an especially strong candidate against CLINTON, should she decide to run.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 15:11:14 GMT -5
Oh Lordy - I am soooooooooo DONE with Bushes!
However, as always - YMMV. Cmon, Kitten, we have to heat up the Politics board! We have been so blah lately, EE and Tax Talk have become more exciting.
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Post by kittensaver on Dec 16, 2014 15:12:52 GMT -5
Oh Lordy - I am soooooooooo DONE with Bushes!
However, as always - YMMV. Cmon, Kitten, we have to heat up the Politics board! We have been so blah lately, EE and Tax Talk have become more exciting.
Well LOL Value Buy - FWIW I'm pretty much DONE with Clintons too!
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 15:13:32 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet! two things. one: Mitt already lost. he would be wise to not run again. two: yes, Jeb is the presumed front runner, but he is also not an especially strong candidate against CLINTON, should she decide to run. I kind of agree about Mitt, but I think most here would agree, he would have been a better choice for America in 2012 and citizens made a mistake for Obama part II.
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Post by b2r on Dec 16, 2014 15:15:37 GMT -5
Sure beats a thread about Hilary, and the nut job from the Northeast that makes Hilary look like a right wing nut job!
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:17:09 GMT -5
two things. one: Mitt already lost. he would be wise to not run again. two: yes, Jeb is the presumed front runner, but he is also not an especially strong candidate against CLINTON, should she decide to run. I kind of agree about Mitt, but I think most here would agree, he would have been a better choice for America in 2012 and citizens made a mistake for Obama part II. i doubt it. want to start a survey?
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Post by Angel! on Dec 16, 2014 15:18:17 GMT -5
two things. one: Mitt already lost. he would be wise to not run again. two: yes, Jeb is the presumed front runner, but he is also not an especially strong candidate against CLINTON, should she decide to run. I kind of agree about Mitt, but I think most here would agree, he would have been a better choice for America in 2012 and citizens made a mistake for Obama part II. I kind of doubt that.
I don't doubt someone could do a better job than Obama, but I sure as hell wouldn't pick Mitt as that person.
ETA - LOL, I see DJ beat me to it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:19:55 GMT -5
I kind of agree about Mitt, but I think most here would agree, he would have been a better choice for America in 2012 and citizens made a mistake for Obama part II. I kind of doubt that.
I don't doubt someone could do a better job than Obama, but I sure as hell wouldn't pick Mitt as that person.
and candidly, i can't think who that person might have been among the major party candidates.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 15:20:30 GMT -5
That is one scary woman. If she wins the nomination, she should set a new all time loss number (at least in my lifetime) beating Barry Goldwater's laughable number.
I would like to see her as the VP member of the ticket with Hilary, guaranteeing a Republican President in 2016
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 16, 2014 15:21:28 GMT -5
I kind of agree about Mitt, but I think most here would agree, he would have been a better choice for America in 2012 and citizens made a mistake for Obama part II. i doubt it. want to start a survey? lol, maybe you should talk to Moonbeam to release the polls.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:23:26 GMT -5
That is one scary woman. If she wins the nomination, she should set a new all time loss number (at least in my lifetime) beating Barry Goldwater's laughable number.
I would like to see her as the VP member of the ticket with Hilary, guaranteeing a Republican President in 2016 are you saying that to be funny? because the polling indicates something wildly different than what you are predicting.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:23:57 GMT -5
i doubt it. want to start a survey? lol, maybe you should talk to Moonbeam to release the polls. what does that mean?
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Post by b2r on Dec 16, 2014 15:26:44 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:27:00 GMT -5
Cmon, Kitten, we have to heat up the Politics board! We have been so blah lately, EE and Tax Talk have become more exciting.
Well LOL Value Buy - FWIW I'm pretty much DONE with Clintons too! think about that for a minute. think back to the 90's. stock market soaring to new highs every year. construction booming. full employment. nearly balanced budgets. now think back to GHWB: recession, unemployment, broken promises. now think back to W: lying to get into wars, torture, and the worst financial crisis in 50 years. do you REALLY think that MOST people view the Clinton and Bush stock as something they are BOTH done with? really?
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:28:02 GMT -5
pretty much the same numbers that CNN predicted Romney would win by in 2012.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:40:38 GMT -5
oh, i don't know if any of you noticed, but 2012 is over. here is something current for your consideration: s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1380855/mcclatchy-marist-poll-2016-december-2014.pdfto use b2r's language, here is Clinton beating Bush by a WHOPPING 13 point margin. actually, since 13 is way more than 9, perhaps i should have said "Clinton SLAUGHTERING Bush by a 13 point margin". edit: since you seem to like CNN, the latest poll on this matchup shows Bush getting PULVERIZED by a 20 point margin. edit2: if Clinton doesn't run, all bets are off. Biden is the #2 candidate for Democrats, and he is FAR weaker than Clinton.
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Post by Angel! on Dec 16, 2014 15:49:36 GMT -5
lol, maybe you should talk to Moonbeam to release the polls. what does that mean? He means put up a poll on YM. Polls are locked by Moonbeam so people can't put them up willy nilly and I think they cause problems due to coding or something. So if you want one put up, then you have to talk to Moonbeam or Virgil.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:53:08 GMT -5
here is the New Republic's take on it (emphasis mine)- i thought that the dropping of the Goldwater name was interesting in the context of this discussion: Because the right never trusted him, Mitt Romney spent the entire 2012 presidential primary burnishing his conservative credentials, and spent much of the general election on unsure footing, never confident that the Republican base would be comfortable with his gestures to the broader electorate.
If the next Republican nominee is going to find balance, it won't be as an establishment guy putting on a Goldwater impression. The question is whether he’ll be a party activist or another patrician who also happens to be comfortable in his own skin.
Two weeks ago, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush weighed in for the latter approach. It’s time, he argued, for a Republican candidate—perhaps Jeb himself—to alter the formula that has blown up his party two presidential elections running.
"I kinda know how a Republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else,” he said, “and it has to be much more uplifting, much more positive, much more wiling to… 'lose the primary to win the general' without violating your principles."
For all the reasons Romney failed, Bush's theory benefits from the sheen of plausibility—and Bush himself seems ready to test it. On Tuesday, he announced that he'll create an exploratory committee, ahead of an official bid for the presidency. But for one key reason, it won’t work for him this cycle, and that reason is immigration.
www.newrepublic.com/article/120571/jeb-bush-running-president-2016-boxed-immigration
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:53:34 GMT -5
He means put up a poll on YM. Polls are locked by Moonbeam so people can't put them up willy nilly and I think they cause problems due to coding or something. So if you want one put up, then you have to talk to Moonbeam or Virgil. thanks.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 16, 2014 15:55:26 GMT -5
Pray GOD that DEMS run someone other than Hillary so I have someone to vote for.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 15:56:43 GMT -5
Pray GOD that DEMS run someone other than Hillary so I have someone to vote for. if she runs, they will run her. but who cares? she is pro-interventionist, so i am not voting for her.
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Post by Angel! on Dec 16, 2014 15:58:59 GMT -5
Pray GOD that DEMS run someone other than Hillary so I have someone to vote for. if she runs, they will run her. but who cares? she is pro-interventionist, so i am not voting for her. If republicans can't come up with someone better than Jeb, then I'm voting for her. I hope they can come up with someone good this year.
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Post by djAdvocate on Dec 16, 2014 16:32:37 GMT -5
if she runs, they will run her. but who cares? she is pro-interventionist, so i am not voting for her. If republicans can't come up with someone better than Jeb, then I'm voting for her. I hope they can come up with someone good this year. Jeb is the front runner. the two closest contenders are Christie and Ryan. either of them appeal to you?
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