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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 3, 2015 13:26:51 GMT -5
he is at the low point of his campaign, but he is not out yet. he just has a lot of work to do.
however, i have to say this: the GOP is not interested in political candidates this year. they want outsiders. so this is going to be a tough road for Jeb.
i won't shed a tear if he doesn't make it. i am convinced that he is more W than anyone else running, and i can't abide by that.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 4, 2015 21:51:19 GMT -5
Carson - FINALLY IN THE LEAD- but just barely. Trump - lost 2.5% in the last week to Carson, who gained the exact same amount, for a 5 point swing. Rubio - polling very well. best numbers for him since May. he has been in double digits in 5 of the last six surveys. the last person to enter this realm was Carson in September. still trailing the top tier by 15%, tho!!!! Cruz - also polling very well. best numbers since APRIL. nearing the best of his campaign. in double digits 3 polls in a row. Bush- he is outside of polling error in the third tier right now, but 2% up on Fiorina, who i am dropping.
NOTE: Cruz+Bush+Rubio is approximately = Trump/Carson. in other words, if one or two of them gets out, it will get interesting, fast.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 5, 2015 9:13:05 GMT -5
That is an interesting point. However I don't see any of those three dropping out anytime soon?
The rest of the wannabe field- they could start going home yesterday if their ego's will let them. Wow. Sometimes it's like talking to a brick wall around here. It's like I never posted the GOP elite's whole "Splitter Strategy". The splitter strategyThe modified splitter strategy
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 5, 2015 9:15:23 GMT -5
That is an interesting point. However I don't see any of those three dropping out anytime soon?
The rest of the wannabe field- they could start going home yesterday if their ego's will let them. Wow. Sometimes it's like talking to a brick wall around here. It's like I never posted the GOP elite's whole "Splitter Strategy". The splitter strategyThe modified splitter strategy
The "rest of the wannabe field" can't go home until the opportune time. They need to be there so the GOPe can follow through with its plans to get Jeb through with as little as 15% of the vote.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 5, 2015 9:50:08 GMT -5
I personally am impressed by those offering that this plot exists. It is a no risk proposal. If Bush wins, it is proof the plot is real. If Bush losses, it is proof the plot was thwarted.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2015 10:25:31 GMT -5
I personally am impressed by those offering that this plot exists. It is a no risk proposal. If Bush wins, it is proof the plot is real. If Bush losses, it is proof the plot was thwarted. Jade Helm 15 was thwarted.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 5, 2015 11:25:02 GMT -5
Carson - FINALLY IN THE LEAD- but just barely. Trump - lost 2.5% in the last week to Carson, who gained the exact same amount, for a 5 point swing. Rubio - polling very well. best numbers for him since May. he has been in double digits in 5 of the last six surveys. the last person to enter this realm was Carson in September. still trailing the top tier by 15%, tho!!!! Cruz - also polling very well. best numbers since APRIL. nearing the best of his campaign. in double digits 3 polls in a row. Bush- he is outside of polling error in the third tier right now, but 2% up on Fiorina, who i am dropping. NOTE: Cruz+Bush+Rubio is approximately = Trump/Carson. in other words, if one or two of them gets out, it will get interesting, fast. I am interested to see how the "Joseph Built the Pyramids to Store Grain" story helps or hurts Carson. I understand how his strong faith makes him attractive to the religious right - but geez, if he ignores the evidence of the hieroglyphics and trappings of the tombs inside the pyramids in order to paste a Christian heritage over thousands of years of Egyptian civilization - then what else is he willing to twist to fit his religious viewpoint?
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 5, 2015 12:12:28 GMT -5
Carson - FINALLY IN THE LEAD- but just barely. Trump - lost 2.5% in the last week to Carson, who gained the exact same amount, for a 5 point swing. Rubio - polling very well. best numbers for him since May. he has been in double digits in 5 of the last six surveys. the last person to enter this realm was Carson in September. still trailing the top tier by 15%, tho!!!! Cruz - also polling very well. best numbers since APRIL. nearing the best of his campaign. in double digits 3 polls in a row. Bush- he is outside of polling error in the third tier right now, but 2% up on Fiorina, who i am dropping. NOTE: Cruz+Bush+Rubio is approximately = Trump/Carson. in other words, if one or two of them gets out, it will get interesting, fast. I am interested to see how the "Joseph Built the Pyramids to Store Grain" story helps or hurts Carson. I understand how his strong faith makes him attractive to the religious right - but geez, if he ignores the evidence of the hieroglyphics and trappings of the tombs inside the pyramids in order to paste a Christian heritage over thousands of years of Egyptian civilization - then what else is he willing to twist to fit his religious viewpoint? it also shows a lot of disrespect for Egyptians, in that he is claiming that they were incapable of making hermetically sealed chambers. he is a strange guy.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 5, 2015 12:16:10 GMT -5
That is an interesting point. However I don't see any of those three dropping out anytime soon?
The rest of the wannabe field- they could start going home yesterday if their ego's will let them. you don't want to know what i am thinking, and i don't want to say it. let's just see how this plays out. the discouraging thing is that Trump+Carson have been hovering at around 50% since September. that makes it really hard for anyone else to compete.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 5, 2015 12:16:57 GMT -5
Carson - FINALLY IN THE LEAD- but just barely. Trump - lost 2.5% in the last week to Carson, who gained the exact same amount, for a 5 point swing. Rubio - polling very well. best numbers for him since May. he has been in double digits in 5 of the last six surveys. the last person to enter this realm was Carson in September. still trailing the top tier by 15%, tho!!!! Cruz - also polling very well. best numbers since APRIL. nearing the best of his campaign. in double digits 3 polls in a row. Bush- he is outside of polling error in the third tier right now, but 2% up on Fiorina, who i am dropping. NOTE: Cruz+Bush+Rubio is approximately = Trump/Carson. in other words, if one or two of them gets out, it will get interesting, fast. I am interested to see how the "Joseph Built the Pyramids to Store Grain" story helps or hurts Carson. I understand how his strong faith makes him attractive to the religious right - but geez, if he ignores the evidence of the hieroglyphics and trappings of the tombs inside the pyramids in order to paste a Christian heritage over thousands of years of Egyptian civilization - then what else is he willing to twist to fit his religious viewpoint? The dead in the pyramids had to eat something.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 5, 2015 14:17:41 GMT -5
you don't want to know what i am thinking, and i don't want to say it. let's just see how this plays out. the discouraging thing is that Trump+Carson have been hovering at around 50% since September. that makes it really hard for anyone else to compete. And not a primary vote cast yet. We'll see. I don't think the crazy coalition can hold, but I may have too much faith. i am thinking this is "not so serious season". it is one thing to casually imagine King Carson, it is quite another to really own that.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 6, 2015 10:32:09 GMT -5
It really makes one appreciate the gist behind the thread about Canada's election. I realize it is a different system, and a PM vs. a President, but still.
Does it really take us two years to do this I mean, this isn't something important, like star search. Two years, a shit load of money, and months of TV hell with all the negative campaign ads.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 6, 2015 11:45:07 GMT -5
It really makes one appreciate the gist behind the thread about Canada's election. I realize it is a different system, and a PM vs. a President, but still.
Does it really take us two years to do this I mean, this isn't something important, like star search. Two years, a shit load of money, and months of TV hell with all the negative campaign ads. that is what happens when money = "free speech".
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 8, 2015 11:16:06 GMT -5
Trump- back on top, but by less than 1% Carson- still at the highest level of his campaign. we will see if the lying stories hurt him like they did Fiorina, who was in NINTH in the latest poll. Rubio- best level since May, four straight polls in double figures. trails carson by 12% Cruz- best level since April, three straight polls in double figures. Bush- bottom of the third tier, worst standing in the campaign, on life support
first tier- trump/carson second tier- rubio/cruz third tier- bush. but just barely.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 8, 2015 12:26:25 GMT -5
... Fiorina, who was in NINTH in the latest poll. ... Sigh of relief there. While I do believe it is up to those who choose to identify as Republicans to select the person who would best represent them, I am glad that they have apparently ruled her out.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 8, 2015 14:49:04 GMT -5
It really makes one appreciate the gist behind the thread about Canada's election. I realize it is a different system, and a PM vs. a President, but still.
Does it really take us two years to do this I mean, this isn't something important, like star search. ......and we thought 78 days was too long! The longest campaign in Canadian history!!
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 9, 2015 17:07:44 GMT -5
Trump +0.4%- on top again, but just barely Carson- just had another poll in which he was in the lead- but again, within polling error.... Rubio- still polling quite well, at his best level since early June. now within 13% of Trump. Cruz- is sitting near a six month high Bush- continues to crater, though did well in the latest poll, tied for fourth with Cruz.
there is a 3 way tie for sixth, including some interesting movement, but i am not mentioning names until they catch Bush or Cruz.
red = top tier blue = second tier green = third tier
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 9, 2015 17:12:48 GMT -5
Can we please let this thread die an inglorious death, and simply slide down about 25 pages of thread listings of recent threads? Please? This is so depressing......can everyone stop commenting on Jeb for me? All Republicans have already given up on him. Why can't this board do the same? Jeb is even more disappointing than the Chicago Cubs were to northsiders this year.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 9, 2015 17:40:11 GMT -5
just change the thread title to "Republican Nomination 2016".
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Post by dondub on Nov 9, 2015 23:05:20 GMT -5
This is so depressing......can everyone stop commenting on Jeb for me? He will be the nominee. Jeb is even more disappointing than the Chicago Cubs were to northsiders this year. Cubs made it to the NL Championship and you're disappointed?
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 10, 2015 8:03:45 GMT -5
This is so depressing......can everyone stop commenting on Jeb for me? He will be the nominee. Jeb is even more disappointing than the Chicago Cubs were to northsiders this year. Cubs made it to the NL Championship and you're disappointed? Being swept by the Mets in the play offs felt worse for them than in 1969 when the Cubs collapsed, and let the Mets win the pennant by default. P.S. White Sox fan here We won a World Series this century
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Post by Shooby on Nov 10, 2015 10:39:25 GMT -5
Kill baby Hitler!
Well, that's quite a campaign slogan, lol.
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 10, 2015 11:10:26 GMT -5
Kill baby Hitler! Well, that's quite a campaign slogan, lol. it beats We Can Do It, or whatever the hell he made it.
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Post by Shooby on Nov 10, 2015 12:18:36 GMT -5
Well , this is the nonsense that is now "journalism". Why talk about issues when we can talk about nonsense like asking candidates if they would kill baby Hilter. Stupid beyond belief. But, if these Repos are DUMB enough to jump into such stupid questions like that, then what can you say?
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Post by dondub on Nov 10, 2015 12:44:04 GMT -5
That Repos are dumb?
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Post by Shooby on Nov 10, 2015 12:50:10 GMT -5
Some of them are!
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 11, 2015 9:50:11 GMT -5
Last nights debate was interesting. We are now seeing some actual platform planks being talked about by the individuals.
Some really good back and forth without the backstabbing. Fox Business got the format right last night.
The ones attacking others on the stage were the ones that were hurt last night. Jindahl and Kasich attacked others on stage, and came up looking a little less Presidential. IMO
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Post by Shooby on Nov 11, 2015 16:03:47 GMT -5
Grrr... I don't have Fox Business channel. Or, I couldn't find it my lineup. Grr....
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Post by Value Buy on Nov 13, 2015 8:00:12 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet! I posted this in December last year. Today we are hearing there is a draft Romney campaign
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Post by djAdvocate on Nov 13, 2015 12:25:25 GMT -5
Jeb has officially tweeted he is thinking of running for the Presidency. All we have to do is wait for Mitt to tweet back, and we have a potential unbeatable Republican ticket in 2016. You heard it here first. Mitt/Jeb in 2016
Tweet tweet! I posted this in December last year. Today we are hearing there is a draft Romney campaign he's not running. neither is Warren. partisans will just need to get over it.
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