AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 21, 2014 7:21:37 GMT -5
My Mom is extremely fond of saying, "If you were where you were supposed to be, doing what you were supposed to be doing, this wouldn't have happened". Her philosophy is that even if what's happening is tragically wrong and unjust if you weren't there in the first place, it wouldn't have happened. And you're never, ever, ever supposed to be anywhere but work, or bed between midnight and four in the morning. Are you my brother? Pretty sure my sister has hazel eyes, so probably not.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 21, 2014 7:23:29 GMT -5
And to add a twist had he not opened the door and went into the garage and shot, called the police- they would have pulled her out of there and not shot her. On duty cops will actually use a flashlight and investigate-they will announce themselves as police and will have to have a reason to pull the trigger- moving shadows not being a sufficient one.
Sounds like he doesn't have the temperament or control to be a police officer. Think he might be out of a job if not prosecuted. You seem to think there'll be some accountability for a police officer? I wouldn't take that bet. I agree that I wouldn't want this guy on the force.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 21, 2014 7:30:02 GMT -5
This isn't as cut and dried as you like to make it seem. I'm pretty sure there is some onus to establish you are in danger before shooting. Again, it depends on the state laws. In Florida, there's no requirement to announce yourself and give away your position, or identify an intruder. He had an alarm, it was sounding, and someone was rifling around in his garage at 3:30 a.m.-- that's enough to justify the use of deadly force against an intruder. Is it a good idea to shoot blindly? Would a sensible person, knowing they've got a teenager flip on the light first? Sure, and I certainly would have. Does this guy have the good sense and temperament to be a police officer? I'd say not a chance- but then, that's probably why he's a cop. The profession seems to attract jerks.
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Post by EVT1 on Aug 21, 2014 19:30:25 GMT -5
This isn't as cut and dried as you like to make it seem. I'm pretty sure there is some onus to establish you are in danger before shooting. Again, it depends on the state laws. In Florida, there's no requirement to announce yourself and give away your position, or identify an intruder. He had an alarm, it was sounding, and someone was rifling around in his garage at 3:30 a.m.-- that's enough to justify the use of deadly force against an intruder. Is it a good idea to shoot blindly? Would a sensible person, knowing they've got a teenager flip on the light first? Sure, and I certainly would have. Does this guy have the good sense and temperament to be a police officer? I'd say not a chance- but then, that's probably why he's a cop. The profession seems to attract jerks. This isn't FL- the castle doctrine is pretty weak in that state- even with someone in the house they have to show they had to use deadly force to prevent death/great bodily harm.
One thing that is not spelled out- and involves case law- is the garage. While it can be part of the house- it may not be considered so here. His alarm actually indicated an entry into the garage- which was separated from the rest of the house by a normal, also alarmed door with a deadbolt and the rest of it- he grabbed a gun from the kitchen, opened it and went out and shot the shadow/daughter.
If he is not prosecuted for it in VA then it is going to look like special treatment. Was a dumb move- he should know the law in that state.
I have a simple rule- forget what state you are in- don't exit a safe place and shoot someone- stay in a safe place and be at the ready- can't go wrong.
His daughter is alive- that's the important thing- I think if I went through that I might just give up guns anyway- I would be to screwed up after it to want to keep one around anymore.
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