Anti Semitism rising up

[kent]

A report on FAUX News this evening (sorry, I don't have a link) states there have been protests against Israel in Paris, London Malaga, Spain, etc.

So Hamas fires 2,600 missiles (reportedly) at Israel, Israel counters and they end up being the bad guys for protecting themselves. To add fuel to the fire, the head Turkey has labeled Israel a "terrorist" country. Funny how Hamas and the rest of those loons can set off car bombs killing innocent people, etc., etc., etc. and the level of criticism pales in comparison - talk about double standards.

[djAdvocate]

being against Israel, or it's policies, is not the same as being against Judaism, Jews, or whatever else "Semitic" implies.

[djAdvocate]

PS- you are aware that Israel killed 1,400 Palestinians in 2008/2009 right?

i can't blame you if you don't know that.  it was barely reported here.  as usual.

[Deleted]

When you choose terrorists for leadership it's likely going to get bloody.

[Spellbound454]

I think there is a lot of people joining in with this who don't know the first thing about it.

"lets all hate Israel" has been supported by "pop stars" and all the rest of the empty headed numpties who haven't a clue about politics.

Its a fashion. Zayn Malik tweets "free Palestine"...and his deluded fans, who think he is going to marry them, join in.

[marvholly]

If you read enough history Jewws have ALWAYS been blamed in difficult economic times. Just wait until EU freezes this winter under reduced oil and/or gas supplies from the middle east and/or Russia.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 2:30:04 GMT -5 @xmascookie said:

When you choose terrorists for leadership it's likely going to get bloody.

a meaningless statement in the context of Middle East politics.  both sides have engaged in terrorism.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 4:38:36 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

I think there is a lot of people joining in with this who don't know the first thing about it.

"lets all hate Israel" has been supported by "pop stars" and all the rest of the empty headed numpties who haven't a clue about politics.

Its a fashion. Zayn Malik tweets "free Palestine"...and his deluded fans, who think he is going to marry them, join in.

there is a very strong pro-Israel bias in the US.  if you don't think so, i really don't know what to say.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 5:28:21 GMT -5 marvholly said:

If you read enough history Jewws have ALWAYS been blamed in difficult economic times. Just wait until EU freezes this winter under reduced oil and/or gas supplies from the middle east and/or Russia.

not following your logic, here.  Jews have been persecuted for usury, mostly, not for "tough economic times".

[Deleted]

Meaningless to you I'm sure.

When the Palestinians chose Hamas, a terrorist organization who in it's charter calls for the destruction of Israel ,to lead them, they are choosing violence over peace. Their choice, their consequences.

[busymom]

I've heard a number of countries no longer teach school kids about WWII, or the Holocaust. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it." -Edmund Burke

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 12:21:20 GMT -5 busymom said:

I've heard a number of countries no longer teach school kids about WWII, or the Holocaust. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it." -Edmund Burke

the Jewish community will never allow that to happen. 

[zibazinski]

Jul 29, 2014 13:38:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 29, 2014 12:21:20 GMT -5 busymom said:

I've heard a number of countries no longer teach school kids about WWII, or the Holocaust. "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it." -Edmund Burke

the Jewish community will never allow that to happen. 

Really? Even though it is mandated in Florida, the public school I taught in didnt teach it. I had a teacher tell me she'd quit before she taught that or sex Ed, which is also required. She decided to teach gifted instead.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 14:00:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jul 29, 2014 13:38:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the Jewish community will never allow that to happen. 

Really? Even though it is mandated in Florida, the public school I taught in didnt teach it. I had a teacher tell me she'd quit before she taught that or sex Ed, which is also required. She decided to teach gifted instead.

the comment was referring to forgetting.  and yes.  really.

[zibazinski]

Ask a kid what the holocaust was about. See if they have a clue. It's mandated for 5th grade but is never taught. DD learned from me after her HS teacher touched on it BRIEFLY in class, and I do mean briefly. DS never learned about it at all in school.

[Malarky]

To be fair, my kids weren't taught very much history at all.  

DD had to take a summer school English class and most of the required reading was history.  I was appalled at the number of historical events she had never even heard of.   And yes, I realize I ended a sentence pertaining to an English class with a preposition.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 14:32:15 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Ask a kid what the holocaust was about. See if they have a clue. It's mandated for 5th grade but is never taught. DD learned from me after her HS teacher touched on it BRIEFLY in class, and I do mean briefly. DS never learned about it at all in school.

my son is Jewish.  he just Bar Mitzvah'd.  he knows as much as any young person can know about the Holocaust.  and nobody he ever meets will be ignorant of it.

[zibazinski]

Yes, you do remind us all of that.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 15:28:45 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Yes, you do remind us all of that.

when you stop bringing up how ignorant and bigoted everyone is about Judaism, i will stop.  scout's honor.

until then, i will reply: not in our house, or the house of any other member of our synagogue.  not in a thousand years.

[zibazinski]

The fact that Jews know about the holocaust isn't surprising. I feel everyone should know. It wasn't just Jews that were murdered. Others were as well. For other reasons.

[mmhmm]

My children know of the holocaust, as do their children. Even if it isn't taught in school, there's plenty of mention of it in the press, in movies, on TV, and in books. It's not a dead issue for those who are interested in learning about history. For some, however, there will never be enough interest to bring them to the table to learn. That's on the individual, not on society as a whole.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 16:39:21 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

The fact that Jews know about the holocaust isn't surprising. I feel everyone should know. It wasn't just Jews that were murdered. Others were as well. For other reasons.

yes- that is correct.  liberals were the first to die.  then "the enfeebled".  then the Jews.  it is pretty much the same in every fascist/totalitarian uprising.  liberals are always first to die.  that is why i am so ornery. 

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 16:49:07 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

My children know of the holocaust, as do their children. Even if it isn't taught in school, there's plenty of mention of it in the press, in movies, on TV, and in books. It's not a dead issue for those who are interested in learning about history. For some, however, there will never be enough interest to bring them to the table to learn. That's on the individual, not on society as a whole.

that was my entire point.  if you know my family, you know the Holocaust.  it is not a subject we allow our friends to be unfamiliar with.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Jul 28, 2014 22:13:32 GMT -5 kent said:

A report on FAUX News this evening (sorry, I don't have a link) states there have been protests against Israel in Paris, London Malaga, Spain, etc.

So Hamas fires 2,600 missiles (reportedly) at Israel, Israel counters and they end up being the bad guys for protecting themselves. To add fuel to the fire, the head Turkey has labeled Israel a "terrorist" country. Funny how Hamas and the rest of those loons can set off car bombs killing innocent people, etc., etc., etc. and the level of criticism pales in comparison - talk about double standards.

Double standards without a doubt. Take it a step further and look at what the Islamic State is doing, or how over 100,000 Muslims have been murdered in Syria over the last three years and over half the country has been displaced. Anyone who us trying to claim these are anti-Israel/Zionist protest is fooling themselves!

Anti-Semitic riots in Europe ‘took us back to 1938′

A synagogue was attacked, along with a Jewish owned grocery store. “They were shouting: ‘Death to Jews,’ and ‘Slit Jews’ throats,’” a Jewish sound engineer told London’s Sunday Times. The man had lived in the community for 49 years, but when the Times reporter recently asked for his full name, he demurred. The chants, he said, “took us back to 1938.”

But it wasn’t just that protest, that suburb, that day. The New York Times has reported chants of “death to Jews” and “Hitler was right” in other Paris demonstrations. In Berlin, according to the Associated Press, protesters shouted, “Gas the Jews!” In the Netherlands, a rabbi told the Jewish News Source unknown assailants shattered a window in his home with stones. “The fact that these attacks are recurrent shows the depth of hatred that exists against Jews,” he said.

Attack in Germany prompts fears over rise in anti-Semitism

Petrol bombs were hurled at the walls of a synagogue in Wuppertal in western Germany today amid fears of a rising tide of Gaza-related anti-Semitism in Europe.

[zibazinski]

Well, where's our newest expert on Judaism? No comments? No refuting that everyone else is wrong?

[djAdvocate]

Jul 30, 2014 15:14:23 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Well, where's our newest expert on Judaism? No comments? No refuting that everyone else is wrong?

i never claimed to be an expert of any kind.  any such claim would make it easier for warped posters to track me down. 

and no, i know that antisemitism exists in the world, i just don't think the OP describes it.

by the way, your remarks are getting rather personal.  could i ask you to please refrain from that?  it is against the TAC, i believe.

tyia.

[Opti]

Jul 29, 2014 14:32:15 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Ask a kid what the holocaust was about. See if they have a clue. It's mandated for 5th grade but is never taught. DD learned from me after her HS teacher touched on it BRIEFLY in class, and I do mean briefly. DS never learned about it at all in school.

I'm sure like anything a lot depends on where you went to school, what state you live in, and

possibly your religion.

I really don't remember when it was taught in school, but yes I first learned about it in school.

Also visited Dachau as part of a high school trip FWIW.

(In case its important later, I grew up with my family[and me] pretty close to a Jewish family even though

I was Lutheran. There are a couple Jewish families in my non-denominational church I like to go to as well.)

[djAdvocate]

Jul 29, 2014 14:00:47 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Jul 29, 2014 13:38:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the Jewish community will never allow that to happen. 

Really? Even though it is mandated in Florida, the public school I taught in didnt teach it. I had a teacher tell me she'd quit before she taught that or sex Ed, which is also required. She decided to teach gifted instead.

taught what?  the Holocaust?

[The Captain]

Jul 30, 2014 17:03:23 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 29, 2014 14:32:15 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

Ask a kid what the holocaust was about. See if they have a clue. It's mandated for 5th grade but is never taught. DD learned from me after her HS teacher touched on it BRIEFLY in class, and I do mean briefly. DS never learned about it at all in school.

I'm sure like anything a lot depends on where you went to school, what state you live in, and

possibly your religion.

I really don't remember when it was taught in school, but yes I first learned about it in school.

Also visited Dachau as part of a high school trip FWIW.

(In case its important later, I grew up with my family[and me] pretty close to a Jewish family even though

I was Lutheran. There are a couple Jewish families in my non-denominational church I like to go to as well.)

Which actually raises something I've always been a bit fuzzy on.

Is being Jewish about a religion, or an ethnicity?   Cause if the Jewish families are not going to synagogue then they are not practising their religion, are they still Jewish?

Kinda like if a Baptist starts going to Catholic church and taking Catholic sacraments, are they still Baptist?

I've always wondered.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 30, 2014 17:29:50 GMT -5 The Captain said:

Jul 30, 2014 17:03:23 GMT -5 Opti said:

I'm sure like anything a lot depends on where you went to school, what state you live in, and

possibly your religion.

I really don't remember when it was taught in school, but yes I first learned about it in school.

Also visited Dachau as part of a high school trip FWIW.

(In case its important later, I grew up with my family[and me] pretty close to a Jewish family even though

I was Lutheran. There are a couple Jewish families in my non-denominational church I like to go to as well.)

Which actually raises something I've always been a bit fuzzy on.

Is being Jewish about a religion, or an ethnicity?   Cause if the Jewish families are not going to synagogue then they are not practising their religion, are they still Jewish?

Kinda like if a Baptist starts going to Catholic church and taking Catholic sacraments, are they still Baptist?

I've always wondered.

i'll let an expert answer.