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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 16, 2014 14:27:47 GMT -5
"I don't mean this in any snarky way at all, but why?? Why are you sure you're getting pain meds after birth unless it's a C section? I've never heard of anyone getting a script for them just as routine. I'm confused. " I had my son regular birth, he was 2lbs 4 oz, no tears nothing but the doctor gave me some pain meds too (I think it was Percocet). I took one, didn't need any more. My ex-H took the rest of them for some BS excuse. I guess all the docs around me are paranoid about prescribing anything for pain, from the responses I got here. I appreciate all the honest answers. Maybe some are more paranoid than others? Maybe some aren't registered with DEA to prescribe the heavy narcotic painkillers? I had prescription NSAIDs during my knee issues. I had oxycodone after my surgery. When I had the car wreck in February, the ER doctor gave me Vicodin and muscle relaxers. The orthopedic surgeon gave me different muscle relaxers and stronger Vicodin. That made me want to puke and he isn't a fan of the anti-nausea meds so he switched me to oxycodone. He's in the same practice as my two knee surgeons. If I didn't need to sleep at night I wouldn't take it. ETA: I don't remember a lot of narcotic cases coming out of your state. Most I see are repackaging schemes or billing for drugs not provided. Maybe there's a state emphasis though that make them paranoid.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 14:31:13 GMT -5
Tylenol with codeine isn't a heavy narcotic is it? I didn't think it was that big a deal to get Rx Motrin and Tylenol with codeine but apparently it's quite a shock to some posters that I did. They barely did anything for me when I took them as directed. Taking nearly the whole bottle at once like my husband did is a different matter. He abuses them which makes having them in the house a problem.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 16, 2014 14:39:07 GMT -5
Tylenol with codeine isn't a heavy narcotic is it? I didn't think it was that big a deal to get Rx Motrin and Tylenol with codeine but apparently it's quite a shock to some posters that I did. They barely did anything for me when I took them as directed. Taking nearly the whole bottle at once like my husband did is a different matter. He abuses them which makes having them in the house a problem. I said I wasn't trying to be snarky, but if I offended you by asking, then I'm sorry. It was indeed outside my experience and those of others I knew to leave the hospital with an actual prescription, so I asked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:41:34 GMT -5
"Sympathy pains!"
He is not capable of sympathy anything. He took them because "his back was hurting" (a month later or something), he ate them like candy. I am sure he is very capable of turning into a druggie/alcoholic. One of his older sisters and one of the older brothers are heavy drug users. His other older brother is a recovering alcoholic. His other older sister is addicted to men apparently. So addictions run in the family.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 14:42:59 GMT -5
I'm not offended. I was just surprised. The nurse came into my room before I left and handed me two scripts. I didn't ask for them or anything so I figured it was routine. I've switched hospitals so I don't know what their policy/routine is yet. If I don't get handed anything and I'm told to take OTC Tylenol, awesome that takes a lot of worry off my shoulders. But if I am not we figure might as well broach the subject now rather than wait till temptation is staring DH in the face.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:44:06 GMT -5
"Sympathy pains!" He is not capable of sympathy anything. He took them because "his back was hurting" (a month later or something), he ate them like candy. I am sure he is very capable of turning into a druggie/alcoholic. One of his older sisters and one of the older brothers are heavy drug users. His other older brother is a recovering alcoholic. His other older sister is addicted to men apparently. So addictions run in the family. I could never become addicted to narcotics. They do nothing for me but make me puke.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 16, 2014 14:46:48 GMT -5
"Sympathy pains!" He is not capable of sympathy anything. He took them because "his back was hurting" (a month later or something), he ate them like candy. I am sure he is very capable of turning into a druggie/alcoholic. One of his older sisters and one of the older brothers are heavy drug users. His other older brother is a recovering alcoholic. His other older sister is addicted to men apparently. So addictions run in the family. I could never become addicted to narcotics. They do nothing for me but make me puke. 5mg seems to be the line for me. The best I hope for is to take the edge off and not make me puke. I puked on the way home from my knee surgery. I had to make my dad pull over to the side of the road.
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Post by CarolinaKat on Jul 16, 2014 14:48:56 GMT -5
I could never become addicted to narcotics. They do nothing for me but make me puke. 5mg seems to be the line for me. The best I hope for is to take the edge off and not make me puke. I puked on the way home from my knee surgery. I had to make my dad pull over to the side of the road. Having to pull over so you can puke should ONLY happen after a night of partying!!!
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 16, 2014 14:50:44 GMT -5
I'm not offended. I was just surprised. The nurse came into my room before I left and handed me two scripts. I didn't ask for them or anything so I figured it was routine. I've switched hospitals so I don't know what their policy/routine is yet. If I don't get handed anything and I'm told to take OTC Tylenol, awesome that takes a lot of worry off my shoulders. But if I am not we figure might as well broach the subject now rather than wait till temptation is staring DH in the face.
Good, it was the second time you'd mentioned something about us being amazed so I wanted to be sure I didn't offend you. I mean, I usually do know when I'm about to tick someone off I don't blame you for wanting to be prepared, I would too in your position.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 14:52:43 GMT -5
I'm not offended. I was just surprised. The nurse came into my room before I left and handed me two scripts. I didn't ask for them or anything so I figured it was routine. I've switched hospitals so I don't know what their policy/routine is yet. If I don't get handed anything and I'm told to take OTC Tylenol, awesome that takes a lot of worry off my shoulders. But if I am not we figure might as well broach the subject now rather than wait till temptation is staring DH in the face.
or you could just not take the prescription and remove the temptation completely
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 14:53:46 GMT -5
or you could just not take the prescription and remove the temptation completely
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 16, 2014 15:01:52 GMT -5
5mg seems to be the line for me. The best I hope for is to take the edge off and not make me puke. I puked on the way home from my knee surgery. I had to make my dad pull over to the side of the road. Having to pull over so you can puke should ONLY happen after a night of partying!!! I know! After surgery was pretty rough for me. They gave me liquid Vicodin when I was waking up. I almost made it home too.
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Post by justme on Jul 16, 2014 15:08:09 GMT -5
Tylenol with codeine is very mild. You can actually get it OTC in Canada - or at least Ontario.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 15:11:58 GMT -5
DH mentioned to me that one of his co-workers said you can create a "super high" by crushing up Tylenol with codeine and another drug, I can't remember what drug that was. That's why they go for so much on the streets. No neither one of us tried it to find out.
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Post by swamp on Jul 16, 2014 15:15:40 GMT -5
DH mentioned to me that one of his co-workers said you can create a "super high" by crushing up Tylenol with codeine and another drug, I can't remember what drug that was. That's why they go for so much on the streets. No neither one of us tried it to find out. you can also crush it and smoke it and get good and effed up.
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Post by Pants on Jul 16, 2014 15:17:46 GMT -5
I'm not offended. I was just surprised. The nurse came into my room before I left and handed me two scripts. I didn't ask for them or anything so I figured it was routine. I've switched hospitals so I don't know what their policy/routine is yet. If I don't get handed anything and I'm told to take OTC Tylenol, awesome that takes a lot of worry off my shoulders. But if I am not we figure might as well broach the subject now rather than wait till temptation is staring DH in the face.
Drama, I love you. I really do. But as someone who spent her formative years in a pharmacy, this drives me up the wall bonkers! scripts: things you read from in plays, movies, advertisements or similar scrips: Pharmacy and doctor shorthand for prescriptions
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2014 15:18:49 GMT -5
DH mentioned to me that one of his co-workers said you can create a "super high" by crushing up Tylenol with codeine and another drug, I can't remember what drug that was. That's why they go for so much on the streets. No neither one of us tried it to find out. you can also crush it and smoke it and get good and effed up. Hmm.. something to do while I am on maternity leave.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 16, 2014 15:53:26 GMT -5
I have never given birth the normal way, so I honestly dont' have the answer to the question.
How much does it hurt after a vaginal birth? I've seen people up and wandering around a few hours later, so I didn't think you needed pain meds unless you got shredded/tore up/episiotomy. The worse part of having vaginal birth was the labor pains so I think my doc cheated me for not giving me pain medication during 12 hrs of labor I had to google the word episotomy. Apparently I had that too but didn't know it till the nurse my told me about it (she didn't use that word just you have to be cut). She said it was because of kiddo being 8' 13 oz. I didn't have any pain after childbirth well except a PITA MIL at first Of course, I will preface this with my kiddo was born in the dark ages!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 15:54:30 GMT -5
I had 4 vaginal births, 3 episiotomies. I was given Tylenol w Codeine for those 3 and I took them (full dose first two days, half dose second two days, then I was done.)
My DH has a heroin derivative in the house from after his accident (and his subsequent surgeries, he's had 11 ops in the past nearly 4 years). There was one terrible weekend about a month after he first got out of the hospital after his accident. He was very tired and he decided to "take the weekend off". He took the heroin derivative and spent 3 entire days in bed watching the Sopranos. To say I was absolutely besides myself would be a huge understatement.
Then on Monday morning he got up (very early) and announced he had really needed the rest / sleep, and now it was over, he was feeling much better. He put the rest of the meds in the safe. He will take them VERY occasionally when he is very overtired and / or in pain (he occasionally still has phantom limb pain) and feels he needs a long night's sleep to recuperate. The first year it was about 6 times a year, now it's 2 or 3 times a year, just one pill. So he does NOT abuse those meds. But frankly it still freaks me out to even have them in the house. But given what he's been through, I won't get rid of them.
MPL, I think Milee was very wise to say your ex has a long road ahead of him. But, unfortunately, your DH thinks he can do the accelerated version.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jul 16, 2014 16:02:09 GMT -5
Giving meds to mothers after childbirth must be a new age thingy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:04:32 GMT -5
I'm not offended. I was just surprised. The nurse came into my room before I left and handed me two scripts. I didn't ask for them or anything so I figured it was routine. I've switched hospitals so I don't know what their policy/routine is yet. If I don't get handed anything and I'm told to take OTC Tylenol, awesome that takes a lot of worry off my shoulders. But if I am not we figure might as well broach the subject now rather than wait till temptation is staring DH in the face.
I haven't finished reading the rest of the thread but maybe instead of even bringing home the scripts, could you arrange ahead of time that if you decide you need somethng, the hospital or doctor can just call something in for you and your husband doesn't even have to know that they're in the house? And for the record.. after reading the last two pages I am once again super happy that I adopted my kids. Giving birth sounds scary and ouchie! narcotics prescriptions can't be called in...you need the original physical scrip.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:05:06 GMT -5
Poor dudes on this thread, bothered by a bit of tearing vagina talk. You know the saying, if men had to have the kids no one would have any. My first was 11.8 pounds and ER crash section after his heartbeat stopped after 26 hours of induction and major back labor for me. The OB/GYN cut my stomach muscles because the dumba$$ doctor cut me 3" too high. And, since my epidural had moved, they couldn't numb me completely before my surgery happened. It was very painful. I had a hell of a recovery and no one seemed to understand why... I couldn't stand upright for about a month... The second c-section was in the right place and I have to say recovery was about 1000% easier. ----------- MPL, to be on topic.... As someone who suffers from mental illness, your ex is stable now, but will likely not stay in that state. Especially if he is still in the beginning stages of understanding his illness. IMHO, the most insidious part of MI, is that you have a complete inability to recognize that it is the problem, until life runs off the rails and you have to. We blame things on our jobs, our bosses, our crappy lot in life, etc... before sucking it up and realizing that it really is inside of our own head. BTDT. For myself, I have gone up and down the bipolar scale for years, and looking back now I can tell you what times represent "manic" and which times in my life represent "depressive." The swings used to last months. When I started treatment they were down to daily. I remember telling the doctor at the time that I couldn't deal anymore with never knowing where my mood would be day to day. I would wake up in the morning feeling completely pissed-off and miserable for no reason. The next day I might wake up elated. It was AWFUL! However, even knowing what the disease does to my brain, it still takes me weeks of doing nothing, or doing too much, to realize I have a problem and need to talk with my doc. The medication helps. But, it is NOT a cure and MI is a life-long, DAILY, struggle where you have to see through the fog of MI and choose to battle. Sometimes the battle gets to be too strong and that is when you will see relapse. And, it has nothing to do with you, or your son, or how much your ex loves your son. It is entirely about the battle in his own head.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 16:11:06 GMT -5
Drama, if this is a concern, could your mom or dad fill the scrip for you and keep the meds, since I think they live across the street?
To be honest, part of me would feel why should I not be able to take a pain med in the middle of the night if I need one. But maybe you could secret one or two in your bag somewhere?
Dunno, just thinking out loud.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Jul 16, 2014 16:14:10 GMT -5
I didn't think you could take narcotics if you were breast feeding? I tore to hell because my first was 9lbs with a big freaking head (seriously couldn't walk without pain for a week!). But no prescriptions here
My second was only 7 lbs so I was up and around that day, amazed that I had no pain.
If you need the scrip take it...but like CL, I don't here of scrips being given out like that. As for temptation, sorry but your dh needs to own his willpower. I wouldn't spend my life locking stuff up because my husband couldn't be trusted.
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Post by nutty on Jul 16, 2014 17:04:16 GMT -5
DD didn't get any narcotics last year, I guess it really depends on the Dr.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 17:26:34 GMT -5
DD didn't get any narcotics last year, I guess it really depends on the Dr. the disturbing part for me is that the scrips were just handed to her without her asking for pain relief or the doctor discussing them with her. I've never had that happen to me. I had a friend who was given vicodin for a sprained ankle. as I said I had 5 stitches in the bridge of my nose from slamming the minivan hatch on it and was told to take ibuprophen.
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Post by nutty on Jul 16, 2014 17:41:44 GMT -5
Yeah, that is weird. I would have thought it would have been talked about. DD labor was short, about 5 hrs from start to finish, she did have a pretty bad tear (not epi) that required 4 stitches but still didn't get any scrips at all.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jul 16, 2014 17:45:53 GMT -5
Tylenol with codeine is very mild. You can actually get it OTC in Canada - or at least Ontario. You need a prescrip. for Tylenol w/Codeine or Tylenol 3 in Alberta..
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Post by nutty on Jul 16, 2014 17:49:27 GMT -5
In England you can get codeine over the counter, well at least you could a few years ago.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jul 16, 2014 17:57:54 GMT -5
My DH has a heroin derivative in the house from after his accident (and his subsequent surgeries, he's had 11 ops in the past nearly 4 years). There was one terrible weekend about a month after he first got out of the hospital after his accident. He was very tired and he decided to "take the weekend off". He took the heroin derivative and spent 3 entire days in bed watching the Sopranos. To say I was absolutely besides myself would be a huge understatement. Then on Monday morning he got up (very early) and announced he had really needed the rest / sleep, and now it was over, he was feeling much better. He put the rest of the meds in the safe. He will take them VERY occasionally when he is very overtired and / or in pain (he occasionally still has phantom limb pain) and feels he needs a long night's sleep to recuperate. The first year it was about 6 times a year, now it's 2 or 3 times a year, just one pill. So he does NOT abuse those meds. But frankly it still freaks me out to even have them in the house. But given what he's been through, I won't get rid of them. I have periods where I waaay overdo and my normal pain level shoots through the roof. I have both oxycontin and oxycodone to deal with this. I hate taking them, but they do allow me to sleep without pain and I normally will wake up without pain and function normally (or as normally as I function now). The last time I took drugs was Thanksgiving, I knew I was past my limit and pushed through the pain. I was ok, until I sat down to eat and then I couldn't get up. TD had to physically help me up from the table to a more comfortable chair. I joke about selling my stash to go to Tahiti, but won't. For the very few times each year where I need them, they are too damn important.
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