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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 15:00:23 GMT -5
I know we touched on this not too long ago... maybe on the tats thread? Daughter just asked today if she could get her nose pierced for her 13th birthday, and I forgot what we decided about that... My first instinct was no, but i don't know that noses are worse than ears? Although you have to reach up in your nose i'd guess? ...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 8, 2014 15:04:28 GMT -5
I've contemplated getting my nose pierced over the years. They sell nude/flesh colored flat studs that you can put in when you don't want people to notice. I don't think the nose is that big of a deal. If you don't want it anymore take out the stud and let the hole close.
Now the giant gaping hole in your chin/lower lip with the clear plastic ring that's been shared on the boards a few times, THAT I'd be saying hell no to.
I'd also caution my kid against ear gauges that stretch your earlobes out, they don't snap back after awhile and it requires surgery to get your ears to not look like Dumbo's if you decide you don't like the look anymore.
Basically anything that is going to permenately alter her appearance and require expensive measures to get rid of I'd caution her to think long and hard about. Things that you can just remove the stud and let it close up, knock yourself out.
I wouldn't consent for my 13 year old to get her nose pierced. I wanted to do all those things too as a 13 year old, when I was old enough to sign for myself it wasn't as appealing anymore. I don't want to have her blaming me for a piercing she hates, she can wait till she's 18 and I can say it's your own dang fault.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 8, 2014 15:09:45 GMT -5
I know we touched on this not too long ago... maybe on the tats thread? Daughter just asked today if she could get her nose pierced for her 13th birthday, and I forgot what we decided about that... My first instinct was no, but i don't know that noses are worse than ears? Although you have to reach up in your nose i'd guess? ... IIRC those that had nose piercings said the hole didn't show when the nose ring was removed unless you really looked. But I personally think 13 is still too young. I'm not a parent and have only been a step parent but I'd suggest she wait.
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Post by tloonya on May 8, 2014 15:15:03 GMT -5
I know we touched on this not too long ago... maybe on the tats thread? Daughter just asked today if she could get her nose pierced for her 13th birthday, and I forgot what we decided about that... My first instinct was no, but i don't know that noses are worse than ears? Although you have to reach up in your nose i'd guess? ... IIRC those that had nose piercings said the hole didn't show when the nose ring was removed unless you really looked. But I personally think 13 is still too young. I'm not a parent and have only been a step parent but I'd suggest she wait. Its messed up Body mutilation as what? What statement are we making here? 'I don't have enough holes in my body?' Why not to stay with what God created you with
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 8, 2014 15:18:10 GMT -5
I've contemplated getting my nose pierced over the years. They sell nude/flesh colored flat studs that you can put in when you don't want people to notice. I don't think the nose is that big of a deal. If you don't want it anymore take out the stud and let the hole close.
Now the giant gaping hole in your chin/lower lip with the clear plastic ring that's been shared on the boards a few times, THAT I'd be saying hell no to.
I'd also caution my kid against ear gauges that stretch your earlobes out, they don't snap back after awhile and it requires surgery to get your ears to not look like Dumbo's if you decide you don't like the look anymore.
Basically anything that is going to permenately alter her appearance and require expensive measures to get rid of I'd caution her to think long and hard about. Things that you can just remove the stud and let it close up, knock yourself out.
I wouldn't consent for my 13 year old to get her nose pierced. I wanted to do all those things too as a 13 year old, when I was old enough to sign for myself it wasn't as appealing anymore. I don't want to have her blaming me for a piercing she hates, she can wait till she's 18 and I can say it's your own dang fault.
You might want to add tongue piercing to your list too, unless you like the idea of spending a lot of time at the dentist repairing broken teeth. My sister told her daughters that they needed to wait until their 18th birthday to get any additional piercings. When she turned 18, my niece promptly went out and put another few more holes in her ears.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 8, 2014 15:20:17 GMT -5
You might want to add tongue piercing to your list too, unless you like the idea of spending a lot of time at the dentist repairing broken teethThat one too if she's underage. If she wants to get it at 18 I can't stop her, but I don't have to put her on my dental insurance either. I don't mind tongue piercings in general but I can't stand watching people play with their tongue studs. It drives me batty and the sound is horribly distracting for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 15:22:24 GMT -5
Well, I told her already that tongue is out. Which she finds gross anyway, but I explained that tongues and belly buttons i KNOW require more care and attention that ears. But I honestly couldn't say whether noses were any more likely to get infected, etc. than ears.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 8, 2014 15:24:42 GMT -5
If done properly a nose piercing should be fine, same with tongues and belly buttons. The people I knew who had issues with belly button piercings didn't do their homework. It's not like getting your ears pierced at Claire's. Body piercing elsewhere is completely different you need to make sure whoever does it has a lot of experience with your chosen piercing.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 15:27:02 GMT -5
I just thought, from what i'd heard, that those types of piercings require more specialized, and maybe more ongoing, care than like ears.
The care issue is just the first hurdle, but its an important one.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 8, 2014 15:30:11 GMT -5
With your tongue there are a lot of rules because I believe there is swelling. If your belly button is done by someone who knows what they are doing and you follow normal cleaning procedures you should be fine.
If it's done by a reputable person you should get a fact sheet with instructions on post piercing care. If you follow those you will be fine.
FWIW I had a hell of a time with my ears, part of the reason I lost desire to have any other body parts pierced. My mistake was doing it at Claire's, where some girl who's been a clerk for five minutes gets the piercing gun. If I get Gwen's done we are going to Big Brain in Omaha, they are highly trained/reputable and have won several awards for their skills.
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Post by justme on May 8, 2014 15:33:42 GMT -5
I probably wouldn't at 13, but if I was considering it I'd stick with the piercings that close nice. Most additional ones in the ear do, lip piercings do (when I have mine out no one knows I have the piercing), noses do, eyebrows do not, I think a normal sized libre does, belly button depends, tongue does often enough but I wouldn't for the teeth reasons.
Those are about the only ones I know.
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Post by justme on May 8, 2014 15:39:03 GMT -5
The car isn't really any worse than ears - the area just may longer to heal. My lip piercing took a long time to fully heal, though I didn't have to do any cleaning besides using an antibacterial mouthwash for a little bit. After a month it had healed enough and the swelling down enough to go to a smaller, normal sized ring. They said after 3 months I should be able to take it out, replace it, etc. Well I took it out for 2 hours and the inside of my lip started to close up! I had to go to a piercing parlor to basically almost get it re-pierced. I then didn't take it out for more than a few minutes for over a year - I was paranoid! I've now had it for over 7 years and 4-5 years ago took it out for 14 hours cuz I had to for a job and let the gods sort it out. It didn't close up so I still have it today even though I can't wear it for this job too.
Honestly, I would go to a piercing parlor for any piercing. Even ear lobes - the guns are not the way to go. And definitely not for anywhere else on your ear!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 16:12:37 GMT -5
Well, I told her already that tongue is out. Which she finds gross anyway, but I explained that tongues and belly buttons i KNOW require more care and attention that ears. But I honestly couldn't say whether noses were any more likely to get infected, etc. than ears. belly button isn't any big deal....you clean it in the shower. I don't think a nose piercing is a big deal either.
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Post by kittensaver on May 8, 2014 16:13:23 GMT -5
A short time after we got custody of DN (she was 17), she asked for permission to pierce her bellybutton. Rather than tell her no, I told her I needed to see real, lasting evidence that she was serious about self-care and good hygiene. Oh man! Her room became spotless (after having clothes, shoes, purses, makeup, hair care items, girl-stuff strewn constantly all over it); her laundry was done promptly and carefully and put away in a timely manner; her bathroom became and stayed spotless; when she borrowed the car she returned it clean - it was awesome! She got her piercing as a HS graduation gift (she didn't turn 18 until a few months after graduation, and in my State you need parental permission if you are under 18). A few years later she got tired of it and took it out. Such is life. ETA: my SIL tried this tactic on her 13 year old who wanted contact lenses. Worked like a charm on her too
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Post by Sam_2.0 on May 8, 2014 16:18:49 GMT -5
Honestly, I would go to a piercing parlor for any piercing. Even ear lobes - the guns are not the way to go. And definitely not for anywhere else on your ear! This! I got a cartilage piercing on my upper ear when I turned 18 (REBEL! ). They used a gun and it really messed it up. The studs would never lay right and it took forever to heal. When I took it out I had a really large and noticable lump on the back of my ear (you could see it from the front since it stuck up at a weird angle). Nearly 5 years after taking it out it's finally gone back down but I can still tell it is scarred up.
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Post by justme on May 8, 2014 16:32:28 GMT -5
And you're lucky that was all, though that sucks! I saw a photo of someone who had all their cartilage shattered by the gun. Not a pretty site at all.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on May 8, 2014 16:37:03 GMT -5
I know. Once I started looking it up to see what it was, I realized just how bad it could have been. My sister had it done with the gun too and had no problems at all. Lucky.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 16:38:20 GMT -5
I did my own when I was 19. I would allow my 13 year old to get multiple ear lobe piercings but no body piercings until they're over 18.
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Post by MarleyKeezy78 on May 8, 2014 16:39:38 GMT -5
I think the nose is ok, my cousin got one in her late teens I belive and it was cute. Now that she is older she removed it and you can't even tell it was there. I got my ears done at 8 yrs old and I thought that hurt like hell, but when I turned 18 I got a tattoo and at 19 had my belly button done. I am 35 and have not regreted it so far. Had to take the belly ring out when I was Prego but it's back in. I really want another tattoo but am scared because the first one hurt so bad
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Post by raeoflyte on May 8, 2014 16:43:14 GMT -5
I probably wouldn't at 13, but if I was considering it I'd stick with the piercings that close nice. Most additional ones in the ear do, lip piercings do (when I have mine out no one knows I have the piercing), noses do, eyebrows do not, I think a normal sized libre does, belly button depends, tongue does often enough but I wouldn't for the teeth reasons. Those are about the only ones I know. No one can tell I had my eyebrow pierced.
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Post by cael on May 8, 2014 16:54:12 GMT -5
I second (or third?) the guns-are-awful sentiment. My cartilage piercing (which i still have) never healed quite right, has a lot of scar tissue in the back and ALWAYS gets infected if I try and put any other earring in it besides the one it was pierced with. And this is 12-13 years old at this point. I might wait until 16 to allow a nose piercing... dunno, I'm not that conservative about much but I think 13 is too young for other piercings besides ears. That's just me
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Post by bean29 on May 8, 2014 17:08:08 GMT -5
With your tongue there are a lot of rules because I believe there is swelling. If your belly button is done by someone who knows what they are doing and you follow normal cleaning procedures you should be fine. If it's done by a reputable person you should get a fact sheet with instructions on post piercing care. If you follow those you will be fine. FWIW I had a hell of a time with my ears, part of the reason I lost desire to have any other body parts pierced. My mistake was doing it at Claire's, where some girl who's been a clerk for five minutes gets the piercing gun. If I get Gwen's done we are going to Big Brain in Omaha, they are highly trained/reputable and have won several awards for their skills. Agreed, DD just had her belly button done. We went to a piecing place in the older downtown area of the city I grew up in. Threre is a tatoo parlor in the community we live in that used to do them and will do them again in June, but she wanted it done last weekend so we Googled where she could go and roadtripped it. I thought it was interesting that shop is in a more urban area so the demographics are good. They were fairly busy, but we did not wait too long. One lady ahead of us was there to get her private parts done, another had her nose done for the 2nd time (Not sure what the issue was but I thin it got infected the 1st time). DD told me on the way back that she should have gotten her cartilidge done at one of the higher end places b/c they don't damage the cartilidge as much. She had issues with the cartilidge ... and let it close up. DD is 17 I used to tell her she could do anything she wanted once she turned 18, but I don't think Bellybuttons are a big deal so I took her to get it done. ETA: DD told me it also came up as "Best of Milwaukee" #1 rated by a local news station viewership survey.
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Post by plugginaway22 on May 8, 2014 17:14:48 GMT -5
Our medical office would not hire someone with a nose piercing, unless they agreed to take it out when working.
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I refused to allow any body piercings but caved on the belly button. It is hidden so you can only see it when she is in her bathing suit. That is as far as I will allow. We went to a reputable place and had no issues. After having them explain what they do i nearly passed out....my dd assures me the pain was worse than giving birth (which shows how naive she is about how badly birth will hurt!lol).
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Post by les63 on May 8, 2014 17:50:24 GMT -5
My belly button piercing didn't hurt at all. I was surprised. My ear piercings hurt more (shrugs). The tattoo on my leg did hurt, A LOT. Would I get another? Yep. Already have forgotten the pain for the most part. Just like having a baby.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on May 8, 2014 18:00:45 GMT -5
I usually don't, but always want to ask people - what makes them want piercings (besides one in each year) and tats and such. I don't know if it's my age or me being too conservative or bc I never had any desire to do any of it, but I am so curious..... It's like people want to decorate their bodies beyond the clothes and removable make up. Oh and for the record - I am fairly vain, I don't know if that matters or not. Oped - your DD is so damn cute that *I* would let her do anything. I even liked her pink hair and I usually am pretty judgy about that sort of stuff
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 18:17:26 GMT -5
I got my nose pierced the first time at 18. I let it close a few years later. Then got it done again a couple years after that. I didn't like how that one was positioned so I let it close after a while too. Then I got it done again a few years ago. I still wear a small jewel in it. Mine haven't ever been any more trouble than having your ears pierced. The first 2 times, I got it done with a piercing gun. The first time, I had to go to a neighboring state to get it done and that was the first time they'd done a nose. I was young and not thinking about all the things that could go wrong, but I did offer to pay for my friend to get hers done if she went first. The last one, I got done at a tatoo parlor. All 3 times hurt like hell and brought tears to my eyes, but at least the gun was quick. The ones I had done with a piercing gun would start to close almost immediately if I didn't have anything in them, even after I'd had the first one a few years. I can't even tell exactly where they were, there's no mark or anything on my nose from them. The last one, I've gone a few days without anything in it and I don't have a problem putting the stud back in. When I had the first one, I was working at a store and I got all kinds of comments and crazy questions about it from customers. It was over 20 years ago and nose piercings were fairly unusual here back then. One lady was horrified, I think she worked in the medical field. She told me that if "that thing" gets infected, the infection could spread to my brain and kill me. Anyway, I wouldn't let my 13yo pierce her nose even though ime, they aren't necessarily permanent. I don't have a good reason other than I think that's too young.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 18:19:42 GMT -5
With nose piercings, at first glance, I'm thinking they need a tissue.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 18:26:40 GMT -5
whoisjohngalt, I don't know why I like having my nose pierced. I can't even remember why I wanted it done when I was 18, it definitely wasn't because I saw other people with it and wanted one too. The last one, I got it to remind myself of a time in my life when I wasn't so stuffy and uptight. My jewels are so small, they aren't really noticeable unless the light hits them just right. It's fine if no one else notices it (it took my Mom about a year to notice I'd done it again and some coworkers even longer), it's for me.
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