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Post by Sunnyday on Apr 25, 2014 13:34:15 GMT -5
My opinion has nothing to do with how well behaved a kid is. I consider a work happy hour for employees only. Huh. I consider it socializing with coworkers after work. If beer and alcohol can attend, why not a kid? I dunno. Sorry we can't have happy hour together. It's not just co-workers randomly deciding to go out to a bar after work to blow off steam. The company is picking up the tab, and her children don't work for us. And I was really lookin forward to bitching about the new senior management!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 13:35:16 GMT -5
I'd have told my boss that I had assumed a non kid event but if we wanted to include kids I could change venue etc. because this one isn't kid friendly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 13:41:37 GMT -5
My opinion has nothing to do with how well behaved a kid is. I consider a work happy hour for employees only. Huh. I consider it socializing with coworkers after work. If beer and alcohol can attend, why not a kid? I dunno. Sorry we can't have happy hour together. I think it answers itself....
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Post by justme on Apr 25, 2014 13:43:36 GMT -5
Huh. I consider it socializing with coworkers after work. If beer and alcohol can attend, why not a kid? I dunno. Sorry we can't have happy hour together. I think it answers itself.... I thought the beer and alcohol was to make the kids bearable? No?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 13:44:31 GMT -5
That's true. I guess I haven't done happy hour in so long I forgot what it's like. There's a lot of drinking and cursing. Can't figure out why I wouldn't want kids around that....
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Post by movingforward on Apr 25, 2014 13:50:38 GMT -5
There's a lot of drinking and cursing. Can't figure out why I wouldn't want kids around that.... I don't want to have to monitor myself because there is a child around. I am out to blow off steam and a lot of people who have kids are out because they want to get away from their kids (okay, that probably didn't sound right but you know what I mean) and I find they are actually the ones who are the most annoyed when someone shows up with children.
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Post by Sunnyday on Apr 25, 2014 13:56:27 GMT -5
Can't figure out why I wouldn't want kids around that.... I don't want to have to monitor myself because there is a child around. I am out to blow off steam and a lot of people who have kids are out because they want to get away from their kids (okay, that probably didn't sound right but you know what I mean) and I find they are actually the ones who are the most annoyed when someone shows up with children. Yes! that [with arrow pointing up] I can't speak for the others, but I'm the one with the kids and I'm probably the one who is the most annoyed by the whole situation! a dinner without little dwarfs throwing food, spilling food and constant requests for cheese, that is all I ask for!!! Oh god, I can't wait for my Paris trip without the kids!!!
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Post by tcu2003 on Apr 25, 2014 14:06:24 GMT -5
My opinion has nothing to do with how well behaved a kid is. I consider a work happy hour for employees only. Huh. I consider it socializing with coworkers after work. If beer and alcohol can attend, why not a kid? I dunno. Sorry we can't have happy hour together. We can happy hour together! DH and DS typically travel to conferences with me, so we bring DS to receptions and dinners. That said, if he acts up, we immediately remove him from the situation.
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Post by imawino on Apr 25, 2014 14:14:11 GMT -5
That's true. I guess I haven't done happy hour in so long I forgot what it's like. There's a lot of drinking and cursing. Hey - turns out my whole life is happy hour!!! Who knew? And honeybbq, I like you - but if you brought a 2 year old to a happy hour with me, I'd have to knock you out! LOL I'm not really violent. I'd just act snarky and leave.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Apr 25, 2014 14:14:34 GMT -5
::So what do you think? Shouldn't it just be obvious that children shouldn't be allowed.:: No, I don't think it's obvious depending on the environment. It should be obvious that a cocktail hour with senior VPs should have no kids. It shouldn't be obvious that a company picnic at a local park shouldn't have kids allowed. If you don't know, then you ask. It isn't like she just showed up with kids. She asked you, and you said she could. I think it's hard to fault someone who had the decency to ask first just because people think she should "just know". Well, she told the person it wasn't a kid friendly environment which didn't work. It is her superior so I understand why she didn't want to just say NO. Saying the restaurant isn't kid friendly should give the person a clue that kids aren't really appropriate. I have met people who honestly don't care though. They are going to bring their kids no matter what and by them "asking" you it is really their way of TELLING you they are bringing their children. The only problem with that phrasing is that some(most?) parents think you are saying they don't offer activities for their kids as entertainment. They have no idea you are trying to be diplomatic or giving hints. Some parents think it's always about their little darlings and their comforts and everybody loves them as much as they do. LOL!! I know, right?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 25, 2014 14:23:26 GMT -5
There's a lot of drinking and cursing. Hey - turns out my whole life is happy hour!!! Who knew? And honeybbq, I like you - but if you brought a 2 year old to a happy hour with me, I'd have to knock you out! LOL I'm not really violent. I'd just act snarky and leave. Sorry, I just think it is totally inappropriate to bring a toddler to either a happy hour or a cocktail party, especially if they are work social events.
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Post by midjd on Apr 25, 2014 14:24:15 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with telling your boss that kids aren't allowed... it's not like you're telling her, "Well, other kids are OK but yours are brats, so keep em at home." As long as no one's kids are permitted, and you're not singling anyone out, what's the big deal?
I wouldn't be offended by it (although I'd also take the hint and leave DD at home...)
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Post by movingforward on Apr 25, 2014 14:37:44 GMT -5
Sometimes I think people need a detailed list of where they should and should not take their children. I can't believe the number of people that show up at rock concerts and R rated movies with their kids . I saw four kids between the ages of 5 - 9 when I went to see The Hangover and at least that many or more when I saw Superbad.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 14:45:05 GMT -5
That's true. I guess I haven't done happy hour in so long I forgot what it's like. There's a lot of drinking and cursing. That describes my whole life!
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 14:45:41 GMT -5
Huh. I consider it socializing with coworkers after work. If beer and alcohol can attend, why not a kid? I dunno. Sorry we can't have happy hour together. It's not just co-workers randomly deciding to go out to a bar after work to blow off steam. The company is picking up the tab, and her children don't work for us. And I was really lookin forward to bitching about the new senior management!!! I was referring to happy hour. Not your event.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 14:47:38 GMT -5
Hey - turns out my whole life is happy hour!!! Who knew? And honeybbq, I like you - but if you brought a 2 year old to a happy hour with me, I'd have to knock you out! LOL I'm not really violent. I'd just act snarky and leave. Sorry, I just think it is totally inappropriate to bring a toddler to either a happy hour or a cocktail party, especially if they are work social events. Ok, A cocktail party is NOT the same thing is going to the bar around the corner after work for a drink. Totally not the same at all. I consider happy hour a 'non work function' that I happen to share with my coworkers. A cocktail party or reception is entirely a work function.
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Post by imawino on Apr 25, 2014 14:49:53 GMT -5
Sometimes I think people need a detailed list of where they should and should not take their children. I can't believe the number of people that show up at rock concerts and R rated movies with their kids . I saw four kids between the ages of 5 - 9 when I went to see The Hangover and at least that many or more when I saw Superbad. Gah! People never cease to amaze me. And I'm sure people with kids would not want me writing the list! LOL. basically, if it is 9 on a saturday night, don't be out with your kid in a restaurant.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 14:52:12 GMT -5
Sometimes I think people need a detailed list of where they should and should not take their children. I can't believe the number of people that show up at rock concerts and R rated movies with their kids . I saw four kids between the ages of 5 - 9 when I went to see The Hangover and at least that many or more when I saw Superbad. Gah! People never cease to amaze me. And I'm sure people with kids would not want me writing the list! LOL. basically, if it is 9 on a saturday night, don't be out with your kid in a restaurant. Ok, I'm going to bite. I'm usually in bed by 9pm and asleep and I personally wouldn't take my child out to eat that late... BUT - not everybody is on the same schedule as me. So why can't a kid have dinner at 9 PM? Why shouldn't I go out to dinner with my family if I have to work late? As long as the child isn't being disruptive (which they shouldn't be no matter what the time of day is), what is the problem? It's totally not the same thing as exposing a child to an R rated movie.
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Post by travelnut11 on Apr 25, 2014 14:52:48 GMT -5
I was out at a bar once with a group of friends after 10 pm and some lady's kid was sleeping in the booth next to us and she totally shushed our group for being too loud for her sleeping kid! Seriously?! Take your kid home and to bed...what are they doing in a bar at 10 pm anyway?
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Post by imawino on Apr 25, 2014 14:53:36 GMT -5
Sorry, I just think it is totally inappropriate to bring a toddler to either a happy hour or a cocktail party, especially if they are work social events. Ok, A cocktail party is NOT the same thing is going to the bar around the corner after work for a drink. Totally not the same at all. I consider happy hour a 'non work function' that I happen to share with my coworkers. A cocktail party or reception is entirely a work function. I agree that they are different things. however, I am firm in my opinion that neither function appropriate for kids.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 14:56:21 GMT -5
I was out at a bar once with a group of friends after 10 pm and some lady's kid was sleeping in the booth next to us and she totally shushed our group for being too loud for her sleeping kid! Seriously?! Take your kid home and to bed...what are they doing in a bar at 10 pm anyway? I would have shown that lady my one finger salute as long as my daughter wasn't with us.
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Post by imawino on Apr 25, 2014 14:56:53 GMT -5
Gah! People never cease to amaze me. And I'm sure people with kids would not want me writing the list! LOL. basically, if it is 9 on a saturday night, don't be out with your kid in a restaurant. Ok, I'm going to bite. I'm usually in bed by 9pm and asleep and I personally wouldn't take my child out to eat that late... BUT - not everybody is on the same schedule as me. So why can't a kid have dinner at 9 PM? Why shouldn't I go out to dinner with my family if I have to work late? As long as the child isn't being disruptive (which they shouldn't be no matter what the time of day is), what is the problem? It's totally not the same thing as exposing a child to an R rated movie. I'm thinking young kids - I have 15 and almost 13 year old step kids, they obviously aren't crying or fussing. I guess i've never seen a toddler aged kid who was happily quiet out late at a restaurant. They tend to be fussy, probably being up past their bedtimes. I'm sure there are occassions when they are not, it's the crying ones that get noticed. But, I'm not sure WHY you would want to keep a young child out past it's bedtime and run the risk of making everyone around you in a public place miserable I suppose.
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Post by imawino on Apr 25, 2014 14:59:40 GMT -5
I was out at a bar once with a group of friends after 10 pm and some lady's kid was sleeping in the booth next to us and she totally shushed our group for being too loud for her sleeping kid! Seriously?! Take your kid home and to bed...what are they doing in a bar at 10 pm anyway? LMAO! And how did you guys respond?
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Post by movingforward on Apr 25, 2014 14:59:53 GMT -5
To me it depends on the restaurant. If it is Red Robin or some other chain type restaurant the I think people go expecting kids to be there. If I go to a nice local steakhouse I don't expect to see kids there. Some kids are are perfectly fine and very well behaved, others not so much, and some are just kids being kids. I personally think it is unrealistic to expect kids of a certain age to sit through the amount of time it takes to do fine dining.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Apr 25, 2014 15:01:43 GMT -5
I know some people who's kids sleep in til 10 am and their bed times are 10pm. My daughter's is closer to 7:30 but we get up at the crack of dawn. Different strokes for different folks. If you have one parent working the night shift you might skew your kid's sleep patterns (as long as they aren't in school) so that parent gets to see them. It's just not one-size-fits all.
I do feel bad when I'm out somewhere late and parents are hauling around obviously over-tired or asleep children so they can do X, Y, Z.
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Post by travelnut11 on Apr 25, 2014 15:02:24 GMT -5
I was a lot younger then and sort of stunned when it happened so I think we just looked at her funny and continued on our merry way being loud and swearing. Honestly if it happened now I would have a few choice words for her.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Apr 25, 2014 15:03:18 GMT -5
I know some people who's kids sleep in til 10 am and their bed times are 10pm. My daughter's is closer to 7:30 but we get up at the crack of dawn. Different strokes for different folks. If you have one parent working the night shift you might skew your kid's sleep patterns (as long as they aren't in school) so that parent gets to see them. It's just not one-size-fits all. I do feel bad when I'm out somewhere late and parents are hauling around obviously over-tired or asleep children so they can do X, Y, Z. And, generally, the kids who have the 10PM bedtime are behaving.
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Post by steph08 on Apr 25, 2014 15:13:57 GMT -5
Gah! People never cease to amaze me. And I'm sure people with kids would not want me writing the list! LOL. basically, if it is 9 on a saturday night, don't be out with your kid in a restaurant. Ok, I'm going to bite. I'm usually in bed by 9pm and asleep and I personally wouldn't take my child out to eat that late... BUT - not everybody is on the same schedule as me. So why can't a kid have dinner at 9 PM? Why shouldn't I go out to dinner with my family if I have to work late? As long as the child isn't being disruptive (which they shouldn't be no matter what the time of day is), what is the problem? It's totally not the same thing as exposing a child to an R rated movie. My mom said she used to get dirty looks from people in the grocery store if she was out shopping and/or eating with my brother and/or I later at night on a weekend (8/9 pm). What they didn't know is that she made our schedules that way so that my dad, who worked like 7am-6pm had more time in the evening with us. So instead of 7 am wake-up and 7 pm bedtime, we were 10 am/10 pm kids. Not the same as R-rated movies either. I remember DH and I went to see Saw II - there was some kid in front of us who couldn't have been older than 7 or so. I don't know what his parents were thinking. I'll never know how he did through the movie though as I got sick 5 minutes into it (I guess I can handle gore at home, but not gore on the big screen) and had to leave. [img]http://images.proboards.com/new/tongue.png[/img]
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 25, 2014 15:16:06 GMT -5
I saw small children at Cabaret. Parents left with them during intermission.
It might be a good idea to read the online synopsis before taking your kids to certain plays. Just because it is a musical it doesn't automatically mean it is kid friendly.
I have to believe these people were clueless because surely if you had any knowledge of what Cabaret is about you wouldn't have dreamt of bringing your kids to it.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Apr 25, 2014 15:33:43 GMT -5
Under normal circumstances, I don't. But if a relative comes to town and we end up going out to eat later than usual. Then we're sitting around talking later than usual and suddenly it is past my kids bedtimes. And well shit happens. I'm pretty protective of my kids' bed times. But my Aunt and Uncle come to town 2 or 3 times a year and I'm not always in the position to entertain them at our house (which is always my preference with my young kids). Thankfully, DS is pretty well behaved and can sit still at a table coloring while grown ups talk. DD on the other hand .... well, last time the situation presented itself she wasn't walking yet, so it wasn't as bad. Right now though, she barely sits still while she's eating.
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