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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 14:11:42 GMT -5
No Shaun, I'm sure of the truth of it. We are a small office and we are going to be talking about the trip when they come back. Lying about this would be discovered withing 2 days of being back.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Apr 2, 2014 14:55:56 GMT -5
Then I vote moron too. On her part, not yours, if that wasn't obvious. Still, something about the tattling coworker doesn't sit right with me. The coworker treating a work conference like a weekend in Vegas is an idiot. No doubt about it. The coworker being a tattle tale isn't really doing anything wrong, but I wouldn't want to work with her either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 15:04:33 GMT -5
The tattling coworker and I are really close, both personally and professionally. We talk daily regardless and this came under the "you aren't going to believe this" item on the agenda. She isn't tattling, she's gossiping
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Apr 2, 2014 15:10:11 GMT -5
Is there a manager or supervisor in charge of the delegation at the conference? And were rules sent out beforehand, reminding everyone that they're on the company dime to be professional? There is a manager there and I'm not sure what she has said to her, if anything at all. The manager is not the girl's direct supervisor and this is one of those things we can't really say you're not allowed. There are rules we did review like we don't pay for alcohol, you are expected to attend the workshops you were signed up for and there is a max per diem for meals. The other stuff you hope people have enough class not to do. Yes, you can. It's under the "we realize this is a fun trip but we expect professional behavior at all times" part of the discussion/email. Which also can include dress code.
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Post by haapai on Apr 2, 2014 15:19:38 GMT -5
It's possible that you are being a bit prudish. I wouldn't be too upset if a coworker who I was sharing a room with hooked up with an existing friend while at a conference, as long as she was upfront about spending the night elsewhere. Making me call her late at night to make sure that she's okay is rude.
If I were the employer, I'd be far more concerned about her getting extremely drunk. That will definitely have an effect on her performance during the workshops, which are most definitely company time. If she got plastered twice last year, why did the company send her again this year?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 2, 2014 21:08:10 GMT -5
How do you even know it's true? Maybe your source has a beef with the girl that's supposedly doing this at the conference? People lie all the time. There's no better way to ruin a females professional reputation than calling her a slut, passing along gossip that she's sleeping her way to the top, etc. I'm one who always questions the motives of the messenger.
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 3, 2014 0:09:29 GMT -5
I'm not saying coworker won't be judged, but it really isn't anyones business. Besides her roommate, why would anyone else even know?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 10:15:37 GMT -5
I'm not saying coworker won't be judged, but it really isn't anyones business. Besides her roommate, why would anyone else even know? Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards So frigging that!!! Having been to many, MANY out of town sales meetings, the (unspoken) understanding of them is to tend to business during the day and let loose in the evening. The stories I could tell......
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Post by andreawick on Apr 3, 2014 10:37:47 GMT -5
Your company makes you share rooms on business trips? that was my first thought too ... ugh! and WTF??
maybe the girl just decided she didn't like her "assigned" roommate, and decided to get a different one??
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 10:42:11 GMT -5
Your company makes you share rooms on business trips? that was my first thought too ... ugh! and WTF??
maybe the girl just decided she didn't like her "assigned" roommate, and decided to get a different one??
I've done both: Had my own room and shared. Perhaps the roommate was indeed undesirable: Snoring, etc. Or, in this case, a tattle-tailing rat?
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 3, 2014 10:44:52 GMT -5
that was my first thought too ... ugh! and WTF??
maybe the girl just decided she didn't like her "assigned" roommate, and decided to get a different one??
I've done both: Had my own room and shared. Perhaps the roommate was indeed undesirable: Snoring, etc. Or, in this case, a tattle-tailing rat? This was my thought as well. I'd be very uncomfortable sharing a room with any of my coworkers (dh does that for out of state conferences though). If I ran into a personal friend I'd be crashing on their couch in a heart beat. But even if it is more gossip worthy it just isn't anyone's business.
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Post by mmhmm on Apr 3, 2014 11:39:27 GMT -5
The tattling coworker and I are really close, both personally and professionally. We talk daily regardless and this came under the "you aren't going to believe this" item on the agenda. She isn't tattling, she's gossiping I don't think you're a prude, at all. I think the young woman who behaved in such a manner at a professional convention is, quite obviously, lacking in professionalism, not to mention decent upbringing. As far as the person who told you about it, I think I'd be pretty upset if someone didn't let me know there was a potential problem of this sort. I don't want it to broadside me when everyone returns! If I know in advance, I can start battening down the hatches before the defecation storm hits!
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:42:08 GMT -5
The tattling coworker and I are really close, both personally and professionally. We talk daily regardless and this came under the "you aren't going to believe this" item on the agenda. She isn't tattling, she's gossiping I don't think you're a prude, at all. I think the young woman who behaved in such a manner at a professional convention is, quite obviously, lacking in professionalism, not to mention decent upbringing.
As far as the person who told you about it, I think I'd be pretty upset if someone didn't let me know there was a potential problem of this sort. I don't want it to broadside me when everyone returns! If I know in advance, I can start battening down the hatches before the defecation storm hits! LOL!!! Judge much? Mmhmm, am quite surprised to hear you say such a thing. You're usually more open-minded. ETA: And, why should anyone but the boss be told there might be an issue with a certain employee? And why should they be notified of anything in the first place? Was the employee's performance hindered at all? Further, if this were a male employee, would we be having this discussion?
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Post by mmhmm on Apr 3, 2014 11:47:44 GMT -5
I don't think you're a prude, at all. I think the young woman who behaved in such a manner at a professional convention is, quite obviously, lacking in professionalism, not to mention decent upbringing.
As far as the person who told you about it, I think I'd be pretty upset if someone didn't let me know there was a potential problem of this sort. I don't want it to broadside me when everyone returns! If I know in advance, I can start battening down the hatches before the defecation storm hits! LOL!!! Judge much? Mmhmm, am quite surprised to hear you say such a thing. You're usually more open-minded. ETA: And, why should anyone but the boss be told there might be an issue with a certain employee? And why should they be notified of anything in the first place? Was the employee's performance hindered at all? Further, if this were a male employee, would we be having this discussion? I'm not particularly interested in whether this individual is a male or a female, Iggy. I don't see how that's relevant. The behavior was singularly unprofessional. That's the issue. The "boss" should most definitely be notified. If laterbloomer is in a position to get this information where it needs to be, notifying her was, IMO, the right thing to do. This won't just go away and it can have a very negative effect on the workplace morale.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:48:20 GMT -5
How do you even know it's true? Maybe your source has a beef with the girl that's supposedly doing this at the conference? People lie all the time. There's no better way to ruin a females professional reputation than calling her a slut, passing along gossip that she's sleeping her way to the top, etc. I'm one who always questions the motives of the messenger. POTD!!! I've been thrown under the bus far too many times by vindictive women, and more recently, a fellow business person.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 11:52:00 GMT -5
I'm one who always questions the motives of the messenger. POTD!!! I've been thrown under the bus far too many times by vindictive women, and more recently, a fellow business person. Out of curiousity, how many people have to "throw you under the bus" and how many times does it have to happen, before you consider the idea that maybe the behaviour is inappropriate?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:52:51 GMT -5
LOL!!! Judge much? Mmhmm, am quite surprised to hear you say such a thing. You're usually more open-minded. ETA: And, why should anyone but the boss be told there might be an issue with a certain employee? And why should they be notified of anything in the first place? Was the employee's performance hindered at all? Further, if this were a male employee, would we be having this discussion? I'm not particularly interested in whether this individual is a male or a female, Iggy. I don't see how that's relevant. The behavior was singularly unprofessional. That's the issue. The "boss" should most definitely be notified. If laterbloomer is in a position to get this information where it needs to be, notifying her was, IMO, the right thing to do. This won't just go away and it can have a very negative effect on the workplace morale. Someone "hooking up" is negative for morale? LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 11:55:20 GMT -5
I'm sorry that you, a consenting adult, were thrown under the bus by some coworkers Iggy.
I have never met anyone even close to "sponge-worthy" at any work conference I have ever attended, but I don't think you're horrible because you have.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:56:40 GMT -5
POTD!!! I've been thrown under the bus far too many times by vindictive women, and more recently, a fellow business person. Out of curiousity, how many people have to "throw you under the bus" and how many times does it have to happen, before you consider the idea that maybe the behaviour is inappropriate? LOL! Let's just agree to disagree on the employee situation, Lature. As far as my experiences, they had nothing to do with anything of a sexual or drinking situation. Women, instead of supporting each other, can be jealous, ruthless creatures. As the saying goes, a woman scorned.... If even in her own, twisted, obsessive mind.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:57:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry that you, a consenting adult, were thrown under the bus by some coworkers Iggy. I have never met anyone even close to "sponge-worthy" at any work conference I have ever attended, but I don't think you're horrible because you have. Why, thank you, Beer! That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 11:58:36 GMT -5
I was probably just as nice back in 2010...
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 3, 2014 11:59:52 GMT -5
The tattling coworker and I are really close, both personally and professionally. We talk daily regardless and this came under the "you aren't going to believe this" item on the agenda. She isn't tattling, she's gossiping I don't think you're a prude, at all. I think the young woman who behaved in such a manner at a professional convention is, quite obviously, lacking in professionalism, not to mention decent upbringing. As far as the person who told you about it, I think I'd be pretty upset if someone didn't let me know there was a potential problem of this sort. I don't want it to broadside me when everyone returns! If I know in advance, I can start battening down the hatches before the defecation storm hits! I've never so completely disagreed with you mmhmm. Is this person sharing with everyone what she is doing? Or are people making assumptions? Being sloppy drunk at a work function would bother me--although it happens all the time and doesn't seem to have any impact on work- but this....not even on the radar. It's always a good reminder to me though to know what other people are likely to make assumptions about. Dh and I's lives aren't always conventional and I have remind myself that people looking in have some even stranger ideas of our lives.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 11:59:55 GMT -5
I was probably just as nice back in 2010... LOL! PS: I 'd that Seinfeld episode.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 12:00:45 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, how many people have to "throw you under the bus" and how many times does it have to happen, before you consider the idea that maybe the behaviour is inappropriate? LOL! Let's just agree to disagree on the employee situation, Lature. As far as my experiences, they had nothing to do with anything of a sexual or drinking situation. Women, instead of supporting each other, can be jealous, ruthless creatures. As the saying goes, a woman scorned.... If even in her own, twisted, obsessive mind. Honestly, I can't think of a time I've been attacked by "a jealous, ruthless creature". And I get into my share of arguements. You should see how investorbob is dissing me over on P&M. Is that because he is petty and jealous?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 12:03:28 GMT -5
I don't think you're a prude, at all. I think the young woman who behaved in such a manner at a professional convention is, quite obviously, lacking in professionalism, not to mention decent upbringing. As far as the person who told you about it, I think I'd be pretty upset if someone didn't let me know there was a potential problem of this sort. I don't want it to broadside me when everyone returns! If I know in advance, I can start battening down the hatches before the defecation storm hits! I've never so completely disagreed with you mmhmm. Is this person sharing with everyone what she is doing? Or are people making assumptions? Being sloppy drunk at a work function would bother me--although it happens all the time and doesn't seem to have any impact on work- but this....not even on the radar. It's always a good reminder to me though to know what other people are likely to make assumptions about. Dh and I's lives aren't always conventional and I have remind myself that people looking in have some even stranger ideas of our lives. There are so many variables here. But, I highly suspect the woman in question is jealous-worthy, if that makes sense. Whether it be her personality, appearance, or work position (no pun intended ). Or, perhaps all three. I mean, where they caught making out in the elevator? Public restroom? Twerking on the dance floor? This is a fun conversation, but I really need to get back to work. I'll check in later.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 12:03:35 GMT -5
raeoflyte there are no assumptions being made. This women is telling everyone what she is up to. In more detail than the 3 of them want to hear. I have now heard from the second attendee about this.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Apr 3, 2014 12:04:42 GMT -5
LOL! Let's just agree to disagree on the employee situation, Lature. As far as my experiences, they had nothing to do with anything of a sexual or drinking situation. Women, instead of supporting each other, can be jealous, ruthless creatures. As the saying goes, a woman scorned.... If even in her own, twisted, obsessive mind. Honestly, I can't think of a time I've been attacked by "a jealous, ruthless creature". And I get into my share of arguements. You should see how investorbob is dissing me over on P&M. Is that because he is petty and jealous?
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Post by mmhmm on Apr 3, 2014 12:06:52 GMT -5
I'm one who always questions the motives of the messenger. POTD!!! I've been thrown under the bus far too many times by vindictive women, and more recently, a fellow business person. That's unfortunate. In all my working years, I never had that experience. Of course, I made every effort not to leave myself open to that sort of experience. YMMV.
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Post by mmhmm on Apr 3, 2014 12:07:59 GMT -5
raeoflyte there are no assumptions being made. This women is telling everyone what she is up to. In more detail than the 3 of them want to hear. I have now heard from the second attendee about this. Arrrggghh! I'm really sorry, laterbloomer. You just know this thing is going to erupt when everyone gets back. *shudder*
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Post by mmhmm on Apr 3, 2014 12:09:38 GMT -5
I'm not saying coworker won't be judged, but it really isn't anyones business. Besides her roommate, why would anyone else even know? Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards So frigging that!!! Having been to many, MANY out of town sales meetings, the (unspoken) understanding of them is to tend to business during the day and let loose in the evening. The stories I could tell...... That was never the understanding in any company for which I worked. The understanding was you were representing your company and were expected to behave accordingly.
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