I had to yell!

[tloonya]

I am working with this guy on design of my banner for the store.
He sent me proof. 2 shades of lime letters on white background.
I said no because on sunny day no one will be able to read lime on white!
And I had asked to repeat it on black background.
For about a week we were sending each other emails.
After he sent me one shade of lime on black I had asked him to give me 2 (as was originally discussed and designed).
He had changed fonts and sent me back same 1 shade lime, on black.
I keep insisting to see 2 shades of lime on black.
He sent me outlined in red 1 shade of lime on black...

I had stopped responding.

He just stopped by and brought me outlined in red 1 shade of lime on black.

I asked...twitching in my face WHY just WHY can't he take the very first design and change background to black
He said...because black on black will must be outlined in red!!!!!!!


I had to yell!!! WHAT ABOUT 2 SHADES OF LIME I AM BEGGING YOU ABOUT FOR A WEEK?

He said he will send me proof and disappeared.

I am feeling awful that I had to yell at him but I am sure he will send me what I had asked for now.

WHY do one have to YELL and not by choice? I was very nice...first 20 min he was bickering with me about colors....

[tskeeter]

You might ask him why you aren't getting what you have asked for.  Maybe "shades of lime" means something different to him than it does to you.  (To me, lime is a shade of green.  But, what the heck, I'm an accountant.  I think beige is a color.)  It is also possible that he knows that each additional color you specify increases the cost of the banners and he is trying to keep your cost down.  Or that multiple shades of the same color won't really show up, will look goofy, or something similar.  (I learned this when I chose gray grout for a bathroom floor tile.  I was warned that it would make the tile look green.  Sure enough, the tile ended up looking like it had a green tint.)

Then again.  To some of the artistic types, the rest of us have no design or style sense.  And it is their mission in life to protect us from our poor taste.   

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 13:44:25 GMT -5 tskeeter said:

You might ask him why you aren't getting what you have asked for.  Maybe "shades of lime" means something different to him than it does to you.  (To me, lime is a shade of green.  But, what the heck, I'm an accountant.  I think beige is a color.)  It is also possible that he knows that each additional color you specify increases the cost of the banners and he is trying to keep your cost down.  Or that multiple shades of the same color won't really show up, will look goofy, or something similar.  (I learned this when I chose gray grout for a bathroom floor tile.  I was warned that it would make the tile look green.  Sure enough, the tile ended up looking like it had a green tint.)

Then again.  To some of the artistic types, the rest of us have no design or style sense.  And it is their mission in life to protect us from our poor taste.   

Why he didn't say so?
Firs of all putting lime on white is...weird choice for a designer.
He could tell me anything...instead he was just driving me into the aggravation mode and he got me there!

[tskeeter]

Feb 21, 2014 13:49:21 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Feb 21, 2014 13:44:25 GMT -5 tskeeter said:

You might ask him why you aren't getting what you have asked for.  Maybe "shades of lime" means something different to him than it does to you.  (To me, lime is a shade of green.  But, what the heck, I'm an accountant.  I think beige is a color.)  It is also possible that he knows that each additional color you specify increases the cost of the banners and he is trying to keep your cost down.  Or that multiple shades of the same color won't really show up, will look goofy, or something similar.  (I learned this when I chose gray grout for a bathroom floor tile.  I was warned that it would make the tile look green.  Sure enough, the tile ended up looking like it had a green tint.)

Then again.  To some of the artistic types, the rest of us have no design or style sense.  And it is their mission in life to protect us from our poor taste.   

Why he didn't say so?
Firs of all putting lime on white is...weird choice for a designer.
He could tell me anything...instead he was just driving me into the aggravation mode and he got me there!

I dunno, maybe he just thinks you have poor taste and is afraid to tell you you're a cretin.

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 13:55:50 GMT -5 tskeeter said:

Feb 21, 2014 13:49:21 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Why he didn't say so?
Firs of all putting lime on white is...weird choice for a designer.
He could tell me anything...instead he was just driving me into the aggravation mode and he got me there!

I dunno, maybe he just thinks you have poor taste and is afraid to tell you you're a cretin.

That's funny that you think that cretin means the person with poor taste...
when it is known (worldwide) FACT that
cretin IS the person who thinks that person with a poor taste means cretin...

[mollyanna58]

I had to yell!!!

OF COURSE YOU DID!!!!!!  The guy wasn't paying attention when you were very clear on what you wanted!!!!!

[sarcasticgirl]

Feb 21, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Feb 21, 2014 13:55:50 GMT -5 tskeeter said:

I dunno, maybe he just thinks you have poor taste and is afraid to tell you you're a cretin.

That's funny that you think that cretin means the person with poor taste...
when it is known (worldwide) FACT that
cretin IS the person who thinks that person with a poor taste means cretin...

loony's right. that is a worldwide FACT! 

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 14:14:22 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

I had to yell!!!

OF COURSE YOU DID!!!!!!  The guy wasn't paying attention when you were very clear on what you wanted!!!!!

ANY OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE IT
PLEASE DO TELL ME SO I KNOW!!! for next time ppl don't listen to me...

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 14:14:26 GMT -5 sarcasticgirl said:

Feb 21, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5 tloonya said:

That's funny that you think that cretin means the person with poor taste...
when it is known (worldwide) FACT that
cretin IS the person who thinks that person with a poor taste means cretin...

loony's right. that is a worldwide FACT! 

Well, maybe Nationwide and not Worldwide but cretin IS the one who uses word incorrectly, right?

RIGHT

[Peace Of Mind]

WHAT?!!
FYI:  Black would probably show up better on a lime green background than the other way around.  This is not words but a cat to show you the difference in how things would stand out in both color schemes:



Here is an example with 2 shades with a white background and one with the green background with white letters.  Maybe you should see those examples too since he already had them.  If he ever comes back again. 

 

<<waits for Loony's head to explode 'cause I'm  not listening>>  I can't find many examples in what you want so maybe there is a reason he's trying to show you other examples. Like because they are better.

[mollyanna58]

ANY OTHER WAYS TO HANDLE IT
PLEASE DO TELL ME SO I KNOW!!! for next time ppl don't listen to me...

Be firm, without the loud volume.  Along the lines of "Maybe I wasn't clear.  What I want is (and explain again what you want).  Do you understand what I mean?"

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 14:21:08 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

WHAT?!!
FYI:  Black would probably show up better on a lime green background than the other way around.  This is not words but a cat to show you the difference in how things would stand out in both color schemes:



Here is an example with 2 shades with a white background and one with the green background with white letters.  Maybe you should see those examples too since he already had them.  If he ever comes back again. 

 

<<waits for Loony's head to explode 'cause I'm  not listening>>  I can't find many examples in what you want so maybe there is a reason he's trying to show you other examples like because they are better.

THERE YOU GO!
Now I want cats on my banner except I do not sell any.
Do you think customers will get upset if they come and here no cats?

See, JOB FAIR thing has green and lime.
The one he drew was lime as in Spring Saving and another is brighter yellower lime...
So that one would look great on black.

How do you do this so well? btw...

[mollyanna58]

THERE YOU GO!

You're still yelling.  Remember, firm, without the volume. 

[Peace Of Mind]

Feb 21, 2014 14:42:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Feb 21, 2014 14:21:08 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

WHAT?!!
FYI:  Black would probably show up better on a lime green background than the other way around.  This is not words but a cat to show you the difference in how things would stand out in both color schemes:



Here is an example with 2 shades with a white background and one with the green background with white letters.  Maybe you should see those examples too since he already had them.  If he ever comes back again. 

 

<<waits for Loony's head to explode 'cause I'm  not listening>>  I can't find many examples in what you want so maybe there is a reason he's trying to show you other examples like because they are better.

THERE YOU GO!
Now I want cats on my banner except I do not sell any.
Do you think customers will get upset if they come and here no cats?

See, JOB FAIR thing has green and lime.
The one he drew was lime as in Spring Saving and another is brighter yellower lime...
So that one would look great on black.

How do you do this so well? btw...

I couldn't find any of chickens or mellons but I did try!

Mollyanna, LOL!! 

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 14:44:10 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

THERE YOU GO!

You're still yelling.  Remember, firm, without the volume. 

But what if I am...excited

[NancysSummerSip]

Dunno if Loony's head exploded. Mine might, because I am trying not to laugh out loud.

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 14:47:49 GMT -5 Peace Of Mind said:

Feb 21, 2014 14:42:06 GMT -5 tloonya said:

THERE YOU GO!
Now I want cats on my banner except I do not sell any.
Do you think customers will get upset if they come and here no cats?

See, JOB FAIR thing has green and lime.
The one he drew was lime as in Spring Saving and another is brighter yellower lime...
So that one would look great on black.

How do you do this so well? btw...

I couldn't find any of chickens or mellons but I did try!

Mollyanna, LOL!! 

WHAT SO FUNNY HUH

[mollyanna58]

Control yourself. 

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 15:08:03 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

Control yourself. 

Not before I see my TWO SHADES OF LIME on BLACK...

[PK Bucko]

People don't listen. And if they do, it's only half hearted. You tell them you can't do something on Tuesday, so they schedule it on Tuesday and tell you it's because that's what YOU asked for.

You could have clubbed him with a little league baseball bat and had a 50/50 shot at acquittal.

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 15:24:35 GMT -5 PK Bucko said:

People don't listen. And if they do, it's only half hearted. You tell them you can't do something on Tuesday, so they schedule it on Tuesday and tell you it's because that's what YOU asked for.

You could have clubbed him with a little league baseball bat and had a 50/50 shot at acquittal.

To Do List:
baseball bat

[mmhmm]

I've reduced all font sizes to a maximum of 4.  That's what we allow here.  There's no need to blanket the forum with your need for attention.  Keep the font size at 4 or below. Thanks.

mmhmm, Administrator

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 15:41:49 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I've reduced all font sizes to a maximum of 4.  That's what we allow here.  There's no need to blanket the forum with your need for attention.  Keep the font size at 4 or below. Thanks.

mmhmm, Administrator

We were kidding!!! HAHA?

[mmhmm]

Feb 21, 2014 15:57:49 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Feb 21, 2014 15:41:49 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

I've reduced all font sizes to a maximum of 4.  That's what we allow here.  There's no need to blanket the forum with your need for attention.  Keep the font size at 4 or below. Thanks.

mmhmm, Administrator

We were kidding!!! HAHA?

Yup.  Cool.  Kid within the rules and we're golden.

[tloonya]

Feb 21, 2014 16:53:00 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Feb 21, 2014 15:57:49 GMT -5 tloonya said:

We were kidding!!! HAHA?

Yup.  Cool.  Kid within the rules and we're golden.

Size 4 is not enough to what had happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He sent me dark lime with light lime OUTLINE ! And changed fonts to UGLY!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[mollyanna58]

And this is why you get proofs. So you can see what's planned before it's actually printed.

Be calm, and firm, and explain in little tiny words what you want, since apparently he is not understanding or paying attention to what you say.

[Shooby]

Seriously, Loony ,do you not understand how to deal with people in a PROFESSIONAL way in your business? Go figure.

[Shooby]

But, you are the client so you simply say, HERE IS WHAT I WANT. Period and he can either give that to your not. And, if he doesn't you say No Thank you and go find someone who will.

[tskeeter]

Feb 21, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5 tloonya said:

Feb 21, 2014 13:55:50 GMT -5 tskeeter said:

I dunno, maybe he just thinks you have poor taste and is afraid to tell you you're a cretin.

That's funny that you think that cretin means the person with poor taste...
when it is known (worldwide) FACT that
cretin IS the person who thinks that person with a poor taste means cretin...

No, it's not me that thinks cretin means a person with poor taste.

From Merriam-Webster: a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person (bold mine)

From The Free Dictionary: a stupid, obtuse, or boorish person

It is possible that the designer thinks you are stupid because, in his mind, you don't understand the use of color the way he does, or he may consider your color selection very inappropriate and vulgar or that you are obtuse for not understanding that he has fantastic design sense and that you have none and that you should just agree with the color selections he has made.

[Deleted]

Next time you feel the urge to yell, try whispering. I don't know why but I find it's much more effective in getting my point across, especially to kids.