"Internet Trolls Really Are Horrible People"

[Green Eyed Lady]

Feb 16, 2014 17:34:10 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 16, 2014 17:20:19 GMT -5 Green Eyed Lady said:

I have seen people post like a million times, about "emotional" responses - like it's some kind of bad thing.  It isn't a bad thing that a person is emotional about something they believe in - whether it's here or in real life.  If people think calling me "emotional" in an insult, they better try again.  I think some people consider it some kind of stupid "win" if they elicit emotional responses.  The person who is vested enough in something to get emotional is the poster I'll most respect as far as their opinions.

I agree but disagree. I have very strong opinions on a lot of subjects and probably react emotionally to anything negative about my dd. but I don't let people I don't know impact me personally. If my best friend said the hinge that dark said I would be hurt. People that I don't know or care about can't hurt me like that.
That doesn't mean that I don't truly think that people like that don't deserve a smack down from karma.

Agreed.  To me, "emotional" and "personal" are two different things. I can get emotional about something - abortion, for instance - but it's not personal because I've never had one nor will I ever had one.    Basically, I don't see anything wrong with any of it. It's certainly not, in my opinion, a weakness. 

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 18:22:39 GMT -5 les63 said:

My trigger is definitely special needs children depriving "normal children" of a great education. Yeah ok. Like my son is destroying our countries' education system. Yep!! Rant on. Lol, frigging funny.

Lol! I'm wih you :-)

[les63]

Hee Hee,

[Bonny]

Miss Tequila said:

The reality is, I really do wish that people with your views wine up wih a special needs child.

Child abuse!

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 18:53:15 GMT -5 Bonny said:

Miss Tequila said:

The reality is, I really do wish that people with your views wine up wih a special needs child.

Child abuse!

Lol

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 19:00:41 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Yeah ok. Like my son is destroying our countries' education system.

Your son by himself?  No.  Him plus the millions of other kids just like him straining budgets because when they come up short they can't legally cut a single penny from special ed?  Yeah, actually, that's one the biggest budget issues in the public school system.  My daughters can have 40 kids in a second grade class, which is fucking chaos, but your son needs his X number of hours with a one on one aid and if they think about trimming even 5 minutes off that time you (the general special needs parent you, not you personally) will raise holy hell.

It's fucking ridiculous and unsustainable.

Blah blah blah

[les63]

For one thing there are not millions of kids like my son. I'm just talking about autism (when I say special needs). I do want him to get the most out of school because when he is aged out of public school there will be limited programs for him. As to millions of kids? I haven't looked up the stats on that.

I guess we could build state schools that were a Major failure or I guess when you have a child that needs more than a "normal child" we can put them in the wild and let nature take care of them.

I mean, how dare "I" have a child with special needs. Sorry, right now there isn't a "test" for autism in the womb.

Like I said earlier, this is a hot topic with me. As the saying goes, walk a mile in my shoes...

[JustLurkin]

Feb 16, 2014 19:23:26 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 16, 2014 19:00:41 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

Your son by himself?  No.  Him plus the millions of other kids just like him straining budgets because when they come up short they can't legally cut a single penny from special ed?  Yeah, actually, that's one the biggest budget issues in the public school system.  My daughters can have 40 kids in a second grade class, which is fucking chaos, but your son needs his X number of hours with a one on one aid and if they think about trimming even 5 minutes off that time you (the general special needs parent you, not you personally) will raise holy hell.

It's fucking ridiculous and unsustainable.

Blah blah blah

Special Education in Maryland was severely cut as a result of "No Child Left Behind".

Also, one of the main goals of Special Education is reduce, if not eliminate, the need for one-on-one.

Please, we don't need people propagating BS.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 19:30:08 GMT -5 les63 said:

For one thing there are not millions of kids like my son. I'm just talking about autism (when I say special needs). I do want him to get the most out of school because when he is aged out of public school there will be limited programs for him. As to millions of kids? I haven't looked up the stats on that.

I guess we could build state schools that were a Major failure or I guess when you have a child that needs more than a "normal child" we can put them in the wild and let nature take care of them.

I mean, how dare "I" have a child with special needs. Sorry, right now there isn't a "test" for autism in the womb.

Like I said earlier, this is a hot topic with me. As the saying goes, walk a mile in my shoes...

Don't take the bait....best thing you know he will be making up kids about your marriage. Trust me...take it with a grain of salt :-)

[midjd]

For one thing there are not millions of kids like my son. I'm just talking about autism (when I say special needs).

1 to 1.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder.
www.autism-society.org/about-autism/facts-and-statistics.html

[swamp]

Feb 16, 2014 19:38:41 GMT -5 midjd said:

For one thing there are not millions of kids like my son. I'm just talking about autism (when I say special needs).

1 to 1.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder.
www.autism-society.org/about-autism/facts-and-statistics.html

Not all of them need services, though. Or they get some minor services, not a one on one aide. 

[les63]

Oh don't get me started on California. Kowtowing to illegals. How much is that costing your state? Teaching kids to learn English?

But hey, they mean more to you Californian's then the special needs families that have been citizens for generations. Okaaaay.

Instead of worrying about this I would seriously worry about your drought. Cali is drying up

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 19:38:41 GMT -5 midjd said:

For one thing there are not millions of kids like my son. I'm just talking about autism (when I say special needs).

1 to 1.5 million Americans live with an autism spectrum disorder.
www.autism-society.org/about-autism/facts-and-statistics.html

Yes, but that includes adults and children not in school. Based in a link that I can't post from my phone, about 300k of kids receiving services in school are autistic.

There are lots of people on the spectrum that do not need or receive services. Aspergers is on the spectrum but they don't usually receive services but they would be counted in your numbers

[swamp]

Feb 16, 2014 19:51:09 GMT -5 @wrongsideof30 said:

Feb 16, 2014 19:50:11 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

A bundle, and I'd happily put em all on a bus and drop them off just on the other side of the Mexican border.

However, at least they're able to become productive citizens and pay back some of that investment in future taxes.  The same can't be said for the mentally disabled.

Why are you doing this?

Illustrating trolling?  

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 19:52:37 GMT -5 swamp said:

Feb 16, 2014 19:51:09 GMT -5 @wrongsideof30 said:

Why are you doing this?

Illustrating trolling?  

Bingo.....

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 19:47:06 GMT -5 les63 said:

Oh don't get me started on California. Kowtowing to illegals. How much is that costing your state? Teaching kids to learn English?

But hey, they mean more to you Californian's then the special needs families that have been citizens for generations. Okaaaay.

Instead of worrying about this I would seriously worry about your drought. Cali is drying up

Exactly. A quick google search shows that the US spent $52 billion educating the kids if illegals, more than the $50 billion spent in special education.

Lets focus on reporting the illegals first...but no one here is passionate about illegals so dark can't get a rise out of them.

[Virgil Showlion]

Wow. Punch to the gut for me.

I'd have staked my life that you'd find a strong positive correlation between antagonizing people online and compassion, not between antagonizing people online and a love of antagonizing people.

E.E. Buckels et al. continue to push the boundaries of behavioural science.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 17:49:38 GMT -5 midjd said:

I dunno, I remember some pretty personal insults from that thread, getting into marital issues and whatnot...

We all have our triggers. Nothing wrong with that.

You are correct...but I did not start the marital insults not did I make up anything about anyone else's marriage. I am not a troll

[Deleted]

Feb 16, 2014 20:22:51 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Wow. Punch to the gut for me.

I'd have staked my life that you'd find a strong positive correlation between antagonizing people online and compassion, not between antagonizing people online and a love of antagonizing people.

E.E. Buckels et al. continue to push the boundaries of behavioural science.

Say what?

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 20:30:16 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Feb 16, 2014 20:22:51 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Wow. Punch to the gut for me.

I'd have staked my life that you'd find a strong positive correlation between antagonizing people online and compassion, not between antagonizing people online and a love of antagonizing people.

E.E. Buckels et al. continue to push the boundaries of behavioural science.

Say what?

The more you drink the more sense he makes....trust me :-p

[Deleted]

Lol. I'm fairly use to Virgil"s replies going over my head sometimes, but I felt like I should've understood that one. Maybe I should just go to bed.

[JustLurkin]

Honestly, wanna know the waste of money in public schools--teacher's union.

They've succeeded in bringing it down to a four-day week, I wish they'd pick a steady date instead of a random day each week, that would make it easier to arrange childcare.

My son's "teacher" has her doctorate, she managed to get a *third* of her class declared in need of privatized care. Let's see, he's been in public school for a dozen years, but suddenly public schools can no longer meet his needs. She started calling me so much, I filed a harassment complaint against her. Then, when the response wasn't swift enough, I started showing up at the Board of Education *every* day--I made it clear, *every* time she calls me, I'm getting in my car and coming up here to ask what the hell her problem is.  Only took a few visits before our hearing was scheduled. To my absolute surprise, the board ripped her a new one in front of an audience, and granted *our* request to have him moved. He is now in a private school which is funded by private donations. Four other students filed complaints against her. She called social services on the family of another student--they were transferred out after a restraining order was granted.

Honestly Dark, your employee says "I can't handle a fourth of my responsibilities, you have that work farmed out...or you fire your employee?

I love my son's teachers, I volunteer often, I send in supplies, I send in donations, but bad teachers are bringing the system down.  The lawsuits are out of control, and teachers need to stop being afforded protections--it burns me up to see *county* settlements, it should say *taxpayer* settlements, only then will there be an uprising.

And for the record, I was a gifted student.  There wasn't *anything* we wanted for--we had our own school, and had computers, something that was unheard of at the time.

If you want to believe California is in the state it's in because of the money it spends on education--well, it's an oxymoron that speaks for itself.

[les63]

Maybe my last comment here. There is sooo much more to rant about than special needs children. THEY are not breaking the bank. No one wants to have a special needs child. We all hope and pray for a healthy child. Life gives you what it gives you. Noah has taught me so much. I'm a much better person because of him.

IMO, don't bitch about certain subjects unless you are living them or you have lived them.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 20:39:28 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

You are correct...but I did not start the marital insults not did I make up anything about anyone else's marriage. I am not a troll

But you did start the personal insults, they just weren't specifically about my marriage.  I didn't make anything up about your marriage, you had posted previously that you and your spouse were separated for a while.

I don't even know why I'm bothering to continue this.  I'm not the one that's one of the mean girls, pink jackets, or whatever.  It's a small community, the mods and posters here know what's what.

Actually, you said anyone that thought the way I thought was stupid so you actually started the insults.


I have no issue with you saying I was separated. But you lied about the cause if my separation and acted like you were "in the know". , I don't air my dirty laundry so you had to make stuff up...

Right, I'm the one that wears the link jacketZ. Les is going through hell right now but you still have to reply to her about how much kids like her son cost....and IM the one in the pink jacket.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 16, 2014 20:41:37 GMT -5 les63 said:

Maybe my last comment here. There is sooo much more to rant about than special needs children. THEY are not breaking the bank. No one wants to have a special needs child. We all hope and pray for a healthy child. Life gives you what it gives you. Noah has taught me so much. I'm a much better person because of him.

IMO, don't bitch about certain subjects unless you are living them or you have lived them.

Les, just ignore him. He is nothing but a troll when it comes to his rants about special needs children. He doesn't matter to you in real life so don't let his words bother you.

[JustLurkin]

Feb 16, 2014 20:46:45 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

If you want to believe California is in the state it's in because of the money it spends on education--well, it's an oxymoron that speaks for itself.

Several decades ago California had the highest rated public schools in the country.  They've been declining since.  There are lots of reasons why, but a big part of it is how money is allocated.  For the last couple decades all the focus in public schools has been targeted at under-performing students.  Instead of focusing on, expecting, and fostering high achievement, we ignore those kids and pour money at the kids on the bottom.  It solves nothing and shortchanges the high performers.

I kinda see where you're coming from on this...but look at the flip side as well.  Is the time you spend thinking about your nephew short-changing your own kids?  Or does your nephew simply *need* more time than your kids?  It's a debate you've already internalized...what was the outcome?

[les63]

That it seems to me is a problem in California. It is sad to blame special need's children and their families. If they didn't have us they would have no one.

We do have to fight for our kids. It is not our fault that our Federal gov is lax in this case. We all know Washington is full of idiots. Vote wisely.

[Artemis Windsong]

This happened in RL.  In a 1 1/2 hour time span with 5 people.  4 men, 1 woman.

One drama scene on Valentine's Day.  I see the guy bent over and another patting his back.  I knew it was some drama.  AzHat (a rounder) had played Jar of Hearts to his wife; and she had put some chocolate hearts in a jar for him setting it on the counter.  He twisted it that she had the jar of hearts to hurt him.  She has moral convictions and he's trying to bring her down.  Gain sympathy for himself.

This was a sport where thing needed to be picked up and put in a large locked cabinet with two doors.  One large and the other medium sized at the end.  The large door was locked and so was the small one with one guy locked inside.  Knocking to get out.  The bully said I own you.

The article on trolls was enlightening and I can watch both in RL and on the internet.

[Artemis Windsong]

OT - Virgil, I want you to read the book The Name of the Rose to me and tell me what it's about.

[midjd]

Feb 16, 2014 21:08:16 GMT -5 Artemis Windsong said:

This happened in RL.  In a 1 1/2 hour time span with 5 people.  4 men, 1 woman.

One drama scene on Valentine's Day.  I see the guy bent over and another patting his back.  I knew it was some drama.  AzHat (a rounder) had played Jar of Hearts to his wife; and she had put some chocolate hearts in a jar for him setting it on the counter.  He twisted it that she had the jar of hearts to hurt him.  She has moral convictions and he's trying to bring her down.  Gain sympathy for himself.

This was a sport where thing needed to be picked up and put in a large locked cabinet with two doors.  One large and the other medium sized at the end.  The large door was locked and so was the small one with one guy locked inside.  Knocking to get out.  The bully said I own you.

The article on trolls was enlightening and I can watch both in RL and on the internet.

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