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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jan 24, 2014 11:02:24 GMT -5
I always think of When Harry met Sally scene in a restaurant....
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 24, 2014 11:08:30 GMT -5
We used to have a picky eater in our department back in the day. For Christmas they would let the entire department go out for lunch. Not only did the picky eater give instructions on how she wanted her fish sticks and fries (how they should be cooked, cole slaw in a separate container on the side, tartar sauce in a separate container on the side) when they brought it out some fries were touching her fish sticks SO SHE SENT IT BACK! We asked her why she couldn't just move them herself and she looked at us like it never even occurred to her to do that. Then we started talking about how waiters spit in difficult customers food while she got a horrified look on her face... I HATE people like that. We no longer associate with a couple because his wife plays games liked that. We told them the last time we ate out with them that if she pulled that stunt again, it was the end of our friendship. She must have thought we were joking. When we got up and left while she was ordering, apologized to the server and gave her $20, they realized they had lost another friendship. We all get together now and they are excluded. Hope they enjoy each others company. These are also the same people who have been requested by some restaurants not to come back. I'd be mortified if a public place asked me not to return. She thinks they are the ones in the wrong as are we all. Glad she's right and alone in her thinking.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 24, 2014 11:08:32 GMT -5
We used to have a picky eater in our department back in the day. For Christmas they would let the entire department go out for lunch. Not only did the picky eater give instructions on how she wanted her fish sticks and fries (how they should be cooked, cole slaw in a separate container on the side, tartar sauce in a separate container on the side) when they brought it out some fries were touching her fish sticks SO SHE SENT IT BACK! We asked her why she couldn't just move them herself and she looked at us like it never even occurred to her to do that. Then we started talking about how waiters spit in difficult customers food while she got a horrified look on her face... People like that aren't picky eaters, they are royal pains in the ass. I know one like that and I want to just slap them outta the chair when they start up. Of course, I don't eat out with her as much as I used to!
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 11:11:39 GMT -5
Sounds like a lot of this is less of an issue of eating and more of a socialization issue. Of course for kids, you have to add in the complication of as a parent making sure they're getting appropriate nutrition, but for other adults that's not really the crux of the issue.
So much of this boils down to how we interact with others and how we expect others to interact with us. Interesting stuff. I suspect there are several good thesis in this thread ... Is picky eating less about food and more about control? How does picky eating impact family dynamics? How do picky eaters handle their preference in social situations and is that an indication of their ability to function appropriately in social situations? Sheesh, I can think of several dozen more.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 11:11:55 GMT -5
For Christmas they would let the entire department go out for lunch. Not only did the picky eater give instructions on how she wanted her fish sticks and fries (how they should be cooked, cole slaw in a separate container on the side, tartar sauce in a separate container on the side) when they brought it out some fries were touching her fish sticks SO SHE SENT IT BACK!
I think I waited on her once. People like that are a reason I hate serving. Took all my willpower to not yell "WTF are you doing here? Eat at home if you have that many issues". One of those things where the customer is most certainly not right but you're not allowed to point it out.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 11:14:36 GMT -5
I haven't read the article and I'm on page 1 of this thread. So I may be beating a dead horse here. We shop with our kids. God help us it sucks. I try to have them help prepare foods. Generally, they like to help but don't want to eat the end product. That said, both kids when to town on quinoa the other night. Couscous is another big favorite. The chicken hot dogs are not going over well. Meat loaf with venison and chicken meat was a hit. Meatloaf with venison and beef, not so much. Cheese sticks are the favorite snack right now. Although my daughter thought the garlic and herb Townhouse crackers were way better than Goldfish crackers last week. In short, kids are just weird about what they want to eat today. Because what they adored today and had 2nds of, they won't touch next time it's served. I enforce a "you must try 1 bite of everything on your plate before you get any other food or 2nds of whatever it is you did eat" rule. And I'm not cooking multiple meals anymore. If the kids don't want what I made, after their 1 bite of everything, they can have cheese, yogurt, a sandwich or crackers. With milk. DH is gluten, dairy and mostly soy free. And trying to be GMO free. We're integrating that into the meals I make for me and the kids so that we have "family meals" So mashed potatoes are made with almond milk and ghee. Meatloaf uses the gluten free stuffing DH found - it's more of an instant stuffing than actually cubes so it's working nicely as breadcrumbs. And there's the quinoa. We actually all like it and I can't cook rice to save my life, so unless DH is cooking rice, we use quinoa instead. Meals in our house are a work in progress. Somedays it's 3 steps forward, others it's 3 steps back. No one is going hungry and the kids are growing nicley.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 24, 2014 11:16:25 GMT -5
There are two jobs in this world that I could never do. One is wait tables and the other is teach. Thankless jobs most of the time. I have the highest respect for both. I would be in jail if I tried either job
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 11:18:00 GMT -5
Quinoa. Sigh. Good example of what we were talking about with eating stuff you're not thrilled with. My boys and DH all scarf Quinoa down and I just don't really like it. (Of course the irony is that I'm the one that forced them to try it...) But I make it instead of rice and stick it in all sorts of things because they like it and it's good for them. Plus, I know it won't kill me, I'm just not a big fan.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 11:18:30 GMT -5
chicken hot dogs are not going over well
When DH worked at the bacon plant they tried producing chicken bacon for the "health concious". DH said it was the nastiest smelling stuff on the planet and if you saw what they had to do/add to the chicken to get it to look like bacon you wouldn't eat it.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 11:22:42 GMT -5
....unless as an adult you make and eat things that you don't like but someone else does
I make corned beef for DH. His grandmother used to make it all the time so he has fond memories of it. I compromise and make it once a year for St Patty's Day. I'm not a huge fan of it but DH appreciates the gesture. Freaking stinks up the house, that's another one I only make it once a year. I will NOT make liver. I will NOT make scalloped potatoes and ham. Ever. Under no circumstances. I also refuse to eat them. Under any circumstances. When the kids were little and we were doing solids, I'd choke down homemade baby food of stuff I don't eat. And then I made DH feed them the stuff I don't like (because he does like it) People used to be stunned when I'd comment on how the kids like broccoli and avocado but I don't. What, I'm not supposed to feed my kid something they might like just because I don't like it? WTF?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 11:25:46 GMT -5
What, I'm not supposed to feed my kid something they might like just because I don't like it? WTF?
I loathe eggs. I've tried them and had people try to force them on me since I was a kid. I. don't. like. eggs.
Gwen loves eggs, so I cook them for her. DH loves them too so sometimes I'll make them scrambled eggs for breakfast will I have something else.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 11:34:36 GMT -5
I complained at first, but given his reaction, I no longer do. But you can't win! If I don't say anything, then he'll ask me if I like it. And I will say that it's not bad. And then he will say, "oh so, you don't like it." It's like his version of the "does this make me look fat?" No matter what I say, unless it's total praise, it's not going to go well. I don't lie very much, and when I do, I'm not good at it. I can't praise something that isn't good. If I didn't do something very well, I would want feedback. It's not a question of disrespect. How is it disrespect? You make something that sucks, and I'm suppose to say that it was delicious? At a dinner party, yes. In my home, with my husband? Come on! I should be allowed to not like something.I will still eat it. I'm not going to let food go to waste. And I'm thankful that he cooks it. He once served me sauerbraten. Do you know what sauerbraten is? It's so gross. He spent hours making it. It's like sauerkraut with ginger bread cookies crushed in it. And when I completely mess up one of my recipes, I don't mind if someone says, "oh those cookies weren't so good. Maybe if you baked them at a lower temperature, it wouldn't be so dry." Offense? Disrespect? None, and none imo No, I meant that he is being disrespectful to you by making foods that you don't like. I make most of the meals in our house, it would never occur to me to make something knowingly that my husband doesn't like it. Obviously there are times when he either doesn't like the recipe or doesn't like the way something came out and if that happens, I offer to give him something else. In general, I don't subscribe to the idea "well, if *I* am doing something, I'll do it the way *I* want it whether you like it or not". I think in a marriage both spouses should make an effort to make things easier/nicer for one another. I've got a couple of meals I love that DH hates. I give him advance warning when I'm going to make them, so he knows he's going to be doing something else for dinner that night if he doesn't want to eat them. It's a system. I'm not saying it's a GOOD system but it does work for us. And we're talking something that happens 2-6 times a year so it's not like it's a weekly thing. Although if we count the meals that include gluten or dairy, that probably bumps it up to 1-2 times a week...
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 11:48:24 GMT -5
chicken hot dogs are not going over well
When DH worked at the bacon plant they tried producing chicken bacon for the "health concious". DH said it was the nastiest smelling stuff on the planet and if you saw what they had to do/add to the chicken to get it to look like bacon you wouldn't eat it. Um, did they have to do the same thing to get turkey bacon? Because we love the Jones turkey bacon.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 11:50:36 GMT -5
What, I'm not supposed to feed my kid something they might like just because I don't like it? WTF? I loathe eggs. I've tried them and had people try to force them on me since I was a kid. I. don't. like. eggs. Gwen loves eggs, so I cook them for her. DH loves them too so sometimes I'll make them scrambled eggs for breakfast will I have something else. Yeah, apparently you're not supposed to feed Gwen eggs because you don't like them. I don't know if your DH is supposed to feed them to her or if they're not allowed in the house at all because you don't like them. People can be f#$%ing stupid and wierd.
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 11:51:48 GMT -5
chicken hot dogs are not going over well
When DH worked at the bacon plant they tried producing chicken bacon for the "health concious". DH said it was the nastiest smelling stuff on the planet and if you saw what they had to do/add to the chicken to get it to look like bacon you wouldn't eat it. Um, did they have to do the same thing to get turkey bacon? Because we love the Jones turkey bacon. For the love of God, don't ask questions for which the answer is going to make you cry!!!
DQ - do NOT answer this!!!
(But Beth, if you really think about it, regular bacon is just one cut of meat that comes directly off a part of the animal. Neither a chicken nor a turkey has a long part cut that would make a cut like "bacon", so of course the packager is having to do stuff to tiny ground up pieces of chicken/turkey to form a strip and keep it together. If you like it, don't research this or think to much about it.)
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jan 24, 2014 11:52:18 GMT -5
Quinoa. Sigh. Good example of what we were talking about with eating stuff you're not thrilled with. My boys and DH all scarf Quinoa down and I just don't really like it. (Of course the irony is that I'm the one that forced them to try it...) But I make it instead of rice and stick it in all sorts of things because they like it and it's good for them. Plus, I know it won't kill me, I'm just not a big fan.
How do you make it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 11:52:34 GMT -5
Yes they can. So smile and say "thanks for the input".
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 11:55:44 GMT -5
Um, did they have to do the same thing to get turkey bacon?
I plead the fifth. Milee's right it's better not to think about it. BUT if it's something you're concerned about flip the package over and read the label. Then compare it to pork belly bacon.
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 11:57:38 GMT -5
Quinoa. Sigh. Good example of what we were talking about with eating stuff you're not thrilled with. My boys and DH all scarf Quinoa down and I just don't really like it. (Of course the irony is that I'm the one that forced them to try it...) But I make it instead of rice and stick it in all sorts of things because they like it and it's good for them. Plus, I know it won't kill me, I'm just not a big fan.
How do you make it? Are you asking about how quinoa is cooked in general or how I in particular prepare it? It's a grain, so the short answer is that you boil it until it's the texture you'd like (some like it chewy and some like it soft). One catch is that if it's not rinsed really well, it can have a bitter taste due to residual coating.
If you're asking how I make it, most of the time I rinse really well and then boil it in chicken stock so it has a little bit of a savory flavor and hides the undertaste of quinoa that I'm not fond of. It's not horrible and again, most people like it, just not me. Probably similar to the cilantro thing, I think there's a little of an odd taste to quinoa that I don't care for but that most people either don't taste or like. But I'm also one of those for whom saccharine is incredibly bitter, not sweet at all, so I know there are some things about my taste buds that are different than those of most people.
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Post by swamp on Jan 24, 2014 11:57:46 GMT -5
Quinoa. Sigh. Good example of what we were talking about with eating stuff you're not thrilled with. My boys and DH all scarf Quinoa down and I just don't really like it. (Of course the irony is that I'm the one that forced them to try it...) But I make it instead of rice and stick it in all sorts of things because they like it and it's good for them. Plus, I know it won't kill me, I'm just not a big fan.
How do you make it? Just like rice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 11:59:55 GMT -5
Maybe I am not rinsing it enough because I think plain quinoa tastes like dirt. I think I will try stock next time instead of plain water.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 12:05:48 GMT -5
Try toasting the quinoa before you cook it. I've found that along with rinsing can help. Still not a huge fan.
I've been enjoying Bulgur as my new "super grain". It hides really well mixed with rice which gets DH to eat it.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jan 24, 2014 12:06:51 GMT -5
...:::"when they brought it out some fries were touching her fish sticks SO SHE SENT IT BACK!":::...
Rookie mistake. A pro holds onto the plate until the replacement plate is brought. This way you know they aren't just re-arranging/rinsing off the old one. I haven't had the heart to point out that the new plate might come with its own extras though.
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 12:07:56 GMT -5
I love, love, love bulgur. Tastes great and the texture is fantastic, especially as a meat substitute in chili and soups. Unfortunately, it has gluten in it and that doesn't work for 2 of the 4 of us.
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Post by swamp on Jan 24, 2014 12:09:14 GMT -5
Maybe I am not rinsing it enough because I think plain quinoa tastes like dirt. I think I will try stock next time instead of plain water. I cooked it in stock. too salty. maybe 1/2 water, 1/2 stock?
Or just put cheese on it. That makes everything better.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:00 GMT -5
Maybe I am not rinsing it enough because I think plain quinoa tastes like dirt. I think I will try stock next time instead of plain water. I usually cook mine in veggie stock (DH's got a brand he'll eat) Although I did recently find a brand in the regular rice/quinoa aisle (as opposed to DH's gluten free aisles) for Roland's. It was 2 packs for $4 on sale. They had 4-6 different flavors. I opted for the black bean one but I know there was a Mediterranean one. It was really good. But as it cooled down to room temp, the heat of the flavors went up to a point I wasn't happy with. DH however, loved it at room temp. But I'm a wuss when it comes to spicy foods. Edited to Add - DH pointed out that the Roland's brand actually said gluten free on it. I'm not sure the Bob's Red Mill brand did.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:05 GMT -5
Are you asking about how quinoa is cooked in general or how I in particular prepare it? It's a grain, so the short answer is that you boil it until it's the texture you'd like (some like it chewy and some like it soft). One catch is that if it's not rinsed really well, it can have a bitter taste due to residual coating.
If you're asking how I make it, most of the time I rinse really well and then boil it in chicken stock so it has a little bit of a savory flavor and hides the undertaste of quinoa that I'm not fond of. It's not horrible and again, most people like it, just not me. Probably similar to the cilantro thing, I think there's a little of an odd taste to quinoa that I don't care for but that most people either don't taste or like. But I'm also one of those for whom saccharine is incredibly bitter, not sweet at all, so I know there are some things about my taste buds that are different than those of most people.
OK, I can't eat quinoa like that, but last week I fried (well, stirred) some chopped onions and mushrooms in olive oil and mixed that with cooked quinoa, was a HUGE success, every kid liked it. also, I've made stuffed green peppers with quinoa - i found the recipe on the green box of organic quinoa - EVERYONE loved it - i made it for a party my parents had. People didn't believe it that it didn't have any beef - I guess people assume stuffed peppers have beef.
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Post by milee on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:45 GMT -5
A pro holds onto the plate until the replacement plate is brought. Guess I've got my own picky eater issues because I really dislike how many servers take away a glass to refill it at the serving station rather than bring a fresh one or bring a pitcher to the table and refill it without touching the dirty glass. Granted, I don't usually say anything to protest it, but it does gross me out that the servers take the dirty glasses back to the filling area and cross contaminate things like the ice scoop, pitchers and fountain area with people's dirty glassware. Now that I mostly drink water (or wine - no refills there!) at restaurants, it's not a biggie since most servers bring over a pitcher of water to do a refill at the table, but it's still gross to see them take dirty glasses back to the clean prep area. Oh, well. Probably a minor thing in the whole scheme of gross out horror that is a restaurant...
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:51 GMT -5
I've just started quinoa. Not a fan so far but I will eat it.
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