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Post by Phoenix84 on Jan 23, 2014 14:13:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't consider myself that picky of an eater. The list of foods I don't like is fairly small.
1. Lasagnia
2. Cranberry Sauce
3. Mushrooms
4. Jalapanios
5. Stuffing
6. Olives
Those are the major ones. Obviously if something is totally gross like tounge soup I would be reluctant to try it. And I'm not such a premidonna that I'm not willing to pick out mushrooms if a dish comes with it.
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Post by milee on Jan 23, 2014 14:14:17 GMT -5
Anyway, my Grandma will be 90 and her manners left her about 5 year ago. Apparently good manners don't apply once you hit 85.
Hate to say it, but I think I'd like to be on the Grandma plan. By 85, I'll be on the all-cake and pie diet and was hoping to start being much less tactful. Sounds like I should reconsider these things when in a public setting...
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 23, 2014 14:15:53 GMT -5
Sounds yummy but, yes, I can't eat like that anymore. Sigh.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 23, 2014 14:26:24 GMT -5
That's too bad. Does she have dementia? Was she always rude? No dementia. I have always butt heads with her. She is just very opinionated (as am I) and she always says her opinion and I will defend whoever her opinion is hurtful too (my cousin when we were little, my sister, myself). Everyone else gets along with her better than I do because her BS doesn't bother them like it does me. I also don't handle the constant criticism on my parenting. She implied I was being abusive a year and a half ago on the phone because my son was throwing a temper tantrum about picking up his toys. If my mom didn't make me, I wouldn't have contact with her any more. Not being happy about me expecting baby #2 and implying I was abusing my son because he was crying pushed me over the edge and I barely tolerate her at the moment. Then I feel guilty because she is my only living Grandparent. When my Grandpa was alive he balanced her out a lot. But he's been gone for 6 years now. My Great Aunt is pretty quiet, but she feeds off of her outspoken older sister.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 23, 2014 14:30:42 GMT -5
I've always wondered how picky eaters get overweight
DH's niece only eats highly processed foods. You can imagine what eating only that stuff does to you overtime.
It probably depends on what kind of picky person you are when it comes to your weight.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Jan 23, 2014 14:38:34 GMT -5
Nancy, I buy them frozen in TJ. Never bought them frozen, but I'll take a look at a frozen package and check the origin. Brussels sprouts sold here are almost always of U.S. origin, but even the ones I get at the farmers markets here are not local. Sprouts grow in Zones 4-7, and in Zone 8 in the winter. I am in Zone 9. So there is a pretty big range, which means the soil conditions can vary. Now you have my interest piqued on this, so next time I go to a market, I am going to ask. Or maybe we can get Caiwau to find out for us, since he is in the business. I don't want to buy them fresh bc if I don't get to cook them right away, it will be a waste. After unsuccessful sweet potato try outs last night, I might be waiting on new stuff for a bit. The ironic thing is that DS1 and DS2 both LOVED sweet potatoes when they were babies. Last night they both spitted out.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 23, 2014 14:39:11 GMT -5
That's too bad. Does she have dementia? Was she always rude? No dementia. I have always butt heads with her. She is just very opinionated (as am I) and she always says her opinion and I will defend whoever her opinion is hurtful too (my cousin when we were little, my sister, myself). Everyone else gets along with her better than I do because her BS doesn't bother them like it does me. I also don't handle the constant criticism on my parenting. She implied I was being abusive a year and a half ago on the phone because my son was throwing a temper tantrum about picking up his toys. If my mom didn't make me, I wouldn't have contact with her any more. Not being happy about me expecting baby #2 and implying I was abusing my son because he was crying pushed me over the edge and I barely tolerate her at the moment. Then I feel guilty because she is my only living Grandparent. When my Grandpa was alive he balanced her out a lot. But he's been gone for 6 years now. My Great Aunt is pretty quiet, but she feeds off of her outspoken older sister.
I can understand the feeling because she is your last living grandparent. But I still cannot fathom that giving her the right to cause you grief, or you having to accept it. I forgot how old your kids are, but if they are old enough to talk, then they are old enough to pick up Grandma's verbal cues and criticisms. Your mom cannot "make you" do anything. You are a mom yourself. You have a life, and kids of your own whose values you need to shape. Don't tolerate this. Speak up when they start up. You can be nice, but firm about it. Let them know the words are hurtful, and will not be allowed in your presence. The silence will likely be deafening, because they will be shocked that you had the thought of actually speaking up for yourself. If they don't like the new you, then that's too bad. Remove your children from their influence, and let them know you are doing it, and why. You may still feel compelled to stay, but your kids deserve better, even if she is their great-grandma.
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Post by swamp on Jan 23, 2014 14:39:59 GMT -5
I know a woman who eats only meat and pasta. Yes, she weighs about 500 pounds.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2014 14:42:39 GMT -5
Never bought them frozen, but I'll take a look at a frozen package and check the origin. Brussels sprouts sold here are almost always of U.S. origin, but even the ones I get at the farmers markets here are not local. Sprouts grow in Zones 4-7, and in Zone 8 in the winter. I am in Zone 9. So there is a pretty big range, which means the soil conditions can vary. Now you have my interest piqued on this, so next time I go to a market, I am going to ask. Or maybe we can get Caiwau to find out for us, since he is in the business. I don't want to buy them fresh bc if I don't get to cook them right away, it will be a waste. After unsuccessful sweet potato try outs last night, I might be waiting on new stuff for a bit. The ironic thing is that DS1 and DS2 both LOVED sweet potatoes when they were babies. Last night they both spitted out. We had to switch to sweet potato fries.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 23, 2014 14:45:21 GMT -5
I know a woman who eats only meat and pasta. Yes, she weighs about 500 pounds.
If she stops the pasta she can claim she's on Atkins. I saw a guy at Burger King order one of those Quadruple stack burgers. .. no bun. Dude you just removed what was probably the only "healthy" part of that thing.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 23, 2014 14:53:22 GMT -5
No dementia. I have always butt heads with her. She is just very opinionated (as am I) and she always says her opinion and I will defend whoever her opinion is hurtful too (my cousin when we were little, my sister, myself). Everyone else gets along with her better than I do because her BS doesn't bother them like it does me. I also don't handle the constant criticism on my parenting. She implied I was being abusive a year and a half ago on the phone because my son was throwing a temper tantrum about picking up his toys. If my mom didn't make me, I wouldn't have contact with her any more. Not being happy about me expecting baby #2 and implying I was abusing my son because he was crying pushed me over the edge and I barely tolerate her at the moment. Then I feel guilty because she is my only living Grandparent. When my Grandpa was alive he balanced her out a lot. But he's been gone for 6 years now. My Great Aunt is pretty quiet, but she feeds off of her outspoken older sister.
I can understand the feeling because she is your last living grandparent. But I still cannot fathom that giving her the right to cause you grief, or you having to accept it. I forgot how old your kids are, but if they are old enough to talk, then they are old enough to pick up Grandma's verbal cues and criticisms. Your mom cannot "make you" do anything. You are a mom yourself. You have a life, and kids of your own whose values you need to shape. Don't tolerate this. Speak up when they start up. You can be nice, but firm about it. Let them know the words are hurtful, and will not be allowed in your presence. The silence will likely be deafening, because they will be shocked that you had the thought of actually speaking up for yourself. If they don't like the new you, then that's too bad. Remove your children from their influence, and let them know you are doing it, and why. You may still feel compelled to stay, but your kids deserve better, even if she is their great-grandma. I do speak up for myself which causes more problems in my family. My mom and dad have told me to talk to my Grandma with respect on numerous occasions, because I have stood up for myself. I do believe my dad talked to Grandma after she didn't once tell me congrats or express joy over the news that DD was coming because she acted differently the next time I called. Of course I called her a few days later and that was when DS through his fit and she implied I was abusive. I have only called her one time since then. My kids are 1 and 4. My mom, dad, Grandma and Great Aunt live 8 hours away (well Great Aunt lives 2 hours from my mom, dad and Grandma, but it is still 8 hours to my house). We only visit a couple times a year, but when we visit my Grandma is always over to see her Great Grandkids. My mom brings her mom and aunt to visit a couple times a year. They stay at a hotel 12 miles away when they come. If I told my mom that my Grandma and Great Aunt couldn't come, my mom and dad wouldn't come and my mom and dad are wonderful except for this one area. Basically, cutting off my Grandma or speaking up any more would require a rift between me and my own parents and frankly we would not have made it through 2013 without my parents. I would have lost my mind. For 4 to 5 weekends a year, I can put up with it. Grandma isn't going to live forever..... I don't think.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 23, 2014 15:06:37 GMT -5
Just seems like it when she's around, right? I get it, though. I don't like the idea of Grandma being so high-handedly rude, and no one has that right. Age isn't an excuse, though I think you've dealt with it as much and as best as you can.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 23, 2014 15:14:47 GMT -5
I have a great aunt that is 95 Muttley, I'm not altogether sure she won't outlive all of us. I've been hearing that "she won't be here forever" for pretty much all of my almost 40 years on this planet.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 23, 2014 15:19:24 GMT -5
That's too bad. Does she have dementia? Was she always rude? No dementia. I have always butt heads with her. She is just very opinionated (as am I) and she always says her opinion and I will defend whoever her opinion is hurtful too (my cousin when we were little, my sister, myself). Everyone else gets along with her better than I do because her BS doesn't bother them like it does me. I also don't handle the constant criticism on my parenting. She implied I was being abusive a year and a half ago on the phone because my son was throwing a temper tantrum about picking up his toys. If my mom didn't make me, I wouldn't have contact with her any more. Not being happy about me expecting baby #2 and implying I was abusing my son because he was crying pushed me over the edge and I barely tolerate her at the moment. Then I feel guilty because she is my only living Grandparent. When my Grandpa was alive he balanced her out a lot. But he's been gone for 6 years now. My Great Aunt is pretty quiet, but she feeds off of her outspoken older sister.
That's very sad but still, your home, your rules.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 23, 2014 15:25:31 GMT -5
No one bad mouths my kids or tells me how to raise them, period. That's MY job. The 1 year old may forget but the 4 year old wont. I guess a compromise might be when she starts being nasty, remove your children from her presence. If she asks why, you can either tell her the truth or make up a lie, your choice.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 23, 2014 15:28:20 GMT -5
My grandma was awesome and thought my kids were awesome. I had to step in a few times to shield my kids from my mom then decided my mom wouldn't be exposed to my kids, which is exactly what I told her. The truth was I didn't want my kids exposed to her.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 23, 2014 15:29:59 GMT -5
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 23, 2014 15:34:21 GMT -5
It's okay about not liking the food but keep your mouth shut about it.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 23, 2014 15:35:50 GMT -5
Yeah it ticks me off that my mom in particular defends it. She is too much like her dad. My dad is a little more understanding but his big thing is that we try to get along. I'm probably a little bit too much like my Grandma for my own good. I should just make something I know she won't like this time. When my Grandpa and Great Uncle were alive, they all visited with my parents and I made something I knew my Grandma and Great Aunt would not like, but I had hamburgers for them because I knew they would eat that. My Grandma got mad that I made something she wouldn't like. I really just need to accept when it comes to food, I can't win with her. My Grandpa at least loved food and he loved everything I cooked. Sweet idea. Nothing like a little zinger. And say nicely, "Why Granny, you don't like burgers? Bless. Your. Heart. I thought you did." And just go right on with the meal, same as you would if she were five years old, not 90. No kowtowing to her, but no making a scene or apologizing, either. Your house, your rules. If your parents want to make nice to her, then they can and they will. You have enough to do, and you need to attend to that. At her age, Grandma should be able to have what she likes, since changing her diet won't change her lifespan at this point, but rudeness should never be part of the equation.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 23, 2014 15:40:41 GMT -5
She never does anything that is really nasty though. It is more that nothing is right. She told my sister that I better not bring the kids up there for Christmas if the kids were sick (which they were, we all were). I told my sister that if I hadn't made the trip, I would have never heard the end of it. I was already being needled for not being up there Christmas Day. She does a lot of well your kids don't feel good, your kids are this, your kids are that, and it's like I know what my kids are and she won't shut up about it. The food thing does bother me because DS is being really picky right now. So, I'll just have to overcome it. We do a lot of "retraining" with DS after my parents leave anyway. We make DS clean up after himself and my mom helps him a lot. If I leave my mom in charge, she will cater to his meals and stuff like that. It isn't big stuff, just basic "Grandparent rules" instead of "parent rules". Grandma is never nasty to my kids. Those are precious angels that would never do anything wrong, ever. I wonder what she will say about DS's disrespectful attitude he has been sporting right now. Of course she won't ask him to do anything, so he won't be sassing her. If I ask him to do something, I'm asking too much of him. But it is only 2 days and one of those days I'll be at work at least for the morning and DH and I are going to go on a date that night. The second day is the kid's b-day party in the evening, so I'll just focus on getting ready for that.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jan 23, 2014 15:48:09 GMT -5
Muttley, I learned long ago that you can't make my aunt happy and you might as well just not listen to the rant, she'll be over it in 10 minutes and if not, someone else will do something to make her mad soon enough. Some days I do better at ignoring her than others. Between her and my youngest, I just know someone prayed for me to have more patience
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jan 23, 2014 18:07:39 GMT -5
Well yes, I was making the point that given the choice kids will eat things that taste good... but which doesn't have any nutritional value. One of the reasons for mum making the choice over what she buys, and what she puts on the table for the children to eat.
I never even took mine shopping....couldn't stand the arguments in the cereal isle over whatever plastic toy was in it.
I do think though that children reach an age where they want to be in control and like saying no to everything....They kick up a fuss over food because they know it gets a reaction. Mealtimes can become a battlefield instead of a family occasion. I was very keen to avoid that... so offered no alternatives and didn't make a big thing out of it.
When they go though growth spurts...especially boys....they are always hungry and you can't seem to fill them.
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 23, 2014 18:33:57 GMT -5
Picky eaters (who aren't vegetarians or vegans) never seem to mind fast food, potato chips, ice cream, twinkies, etc. The only thing they "pick" at are vegetables, fish, chicken or anything prepared without 10 pounds of salt. Maybe, just maybe, if they are picky, they will only eat one thing at Burger King, and hates everything else. Maybe they only like Double Chunk Chocolate Breyer's Ice Cream. But it is rare that I've met someone who claims to be picky that doesn't eat shit food like crazy - with the exception of people who are on restricted diets for health reasons, or moral reasons or whatever.
Although, I've known plenty of fat vegetarians. Many of them don't seem to hate potato chips either. And they think a full bag of ruffles is a perfectly acceptable vegetarian dinner.
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Post by doxieluvr on Jan 23, 2014 20:19:04 GMT -5
Picky eaters (who aren't vegetarians or vegans) never seem to mind fast food, potato chips, ice cream, twinkies, etc. The only thing they "pick" at are vegetables, fish, chicken or anything prepared without 10 pounds of salt. Maybe, just maybe, if they are picky, they will only eat one thing at Burger King, and hates everything else. Maybe they only like Double Chunk Chocolate Breyer's Ice Cream. But it is rare that I've met someone who claims to be picky that doesn't eat shit food like crazy - with the exception of people who are on restricted diets for health reasons, or moral reasons or whatever. Although, I've known plenty of fat vegetarians. Many of them don't seem to hate potato chips either. And they think a full bag of ruffles is a perfectly acceptable vegetarian dinner. I am super picky. I eat almost all fruits and veggies with the exception of tomatoes. I eat cucumbers but won't touch pickles. I eat all leafy greens but dislike iceberg lettuce. I like ground beef, but won't eat steak. I will eat cheesesteaks. I will eat grilled boneless chicken but not chicken on bones. I eat scrapple and crispy bacon but don't like pork chops. I like muscles and shrimp but won't eat fish. I like blue crabs but won't eat snow crabs or any large crab. I don't care for potato chips. I like ice cream but only strawberry or banana milkshakes. I don't like Mac n cheese or peanut butter and jelly. I won't touch anything with nuts or coconut. I will eat lasagna but won't eat spaghetti. My mom fed me tonight. I had sausage grilled with yellow peppers and onions on a bed of rice. My mom is a pro at feeding me, it's the rest of the world that goes bat shit crazy trying, which is exactly why I tell people not to try to figure it out. I will find something to eat.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jan 24, 2014 10:27:11 GMT -5
Its been my experience that some of these picky folks also believe they are doing no wrong. After all, they can't help what they don't like and the big mean world keeps treating them like there is something wrong with them. How dare a restaurant or a cook not accommodate their needs.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 24, 2014 10:32:53 GMT -5
And they think a full bag of ruffles is a perfectly acceptable vegetarian dinner.
I'd be tempted to tell them "You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means". I get labeled picky because I don't eat stereotypicak midwestern fare which is usually covered in sour cream, mayo or cream of crap soup (sometimes all three in the same dish! ) and then another 10 lbs of salt is added. No I'm not picky, I just happen to enjoy functioning kidneys and a beating heart thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 10:44:15 GMT -5
Its been my experience that some of these picky folks also believe they are doing no wrong. After all, they can't help what they don't like and the big mean world keeps treating them like there is something wrong with them. How dare a restaurant or a cook not accommodate their needs. Hey, you married her! (We all have days when our spouse ticks us off. You are not alone!)
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jan 24, 2014 10:47:31 GMT -5
Oh, its not DW I'm talking about. Specifically, I'm thinking of someone else who makes it a crusade to do the menu audit at a crowded table. DW at least knows what one or two items have a "chance" of being OK if perhaps one item is removed. This person will hold up a whole table with multiple requests to go back and forth to the chef.
I DO wish that the staff knew a bit more about what was in some of the items on the menu. Its definitely harder with small stuff like cilantro. It may not be dumped on top of the dish, but what if it is part of the base stock?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 11:00:37 GMT -5
We used to have a picky eater in our department back in the day. For Christmas they would let the entire department go out for lunch. Not only did the picky eater give instructions on how she wanted her fish sticks and fries (how they should be cooked, cole slaw in a separate container on the side, tartar sauce in a separate container on the side) when they brought it out some fries were touching her fish sticks SO SHE SENT IT BACK! We asked her why she couldn't just move them herself and she looked at us like it never even occurred to her to do that. Then we started talking about how waiters spit in difficult customers food while she got a horrified look on her face...
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