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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 18:48:33 GMT -5
So, I live in the country on an acre and a half. I bought the house from my father. There are no restrictions on the deed. Not that I know anyway What restrictions do you have on your land? Do they make you a better neighbor? Do they make your neighbors better neighbors? Are you in a development? On how much land? Who impossed the restrictions? The seller himself or an HOA? Are there any restrictions you would not accept?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2013 23:01:45 GMT -5
I also live in the country with no deed restrictions. That is why the across the road neighbor has a toilet he replaced sitting in this back yard, which faces my house.
I used to live in a subdivision with the covenants and restrictions. They covered the colors you could paint your house, where you could put your garbage can (out of sight except on garbage day), where you could park (not on the street), whether you could have a basketball goal (no), and whether you could have a satellite dish(supposedly no, but everyone did under the assumption they were talking about that thing people used to place in their yard).
I'll take the no deed restrictions despite the toilet. I like neighbors who mind their own business, not mine.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 30, 2013 0:11:54 GMT -5
We looked long and hard for a house that didn't have any covenants or restrictions.
I can do whatever I want on my property and so can my neighbors.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 1:46:33 GMT -5
We looked long and hard for a house that didn't have any covenants or restrictions. I can do whatever I want on my property and so can my neighbors. Your statement is overly broad. You can not construct a nuclear power plant in your yard for example.
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Post by Otto the Orange on Nov 30, 2013 5:48:41 GMT -5
boy MMC, thank you captain obvious....next thing you will say they can't grow marijuana on the property, sacrifice people during devil worshipping ceremonies, and things like that I think everyone knows whoisjohngalt meant they can do "anything they want" within reason......everyone but you
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 30, 2013 7:37:13 GMT -5
There's always "one" who pretends they don't know what you mean just to stir the pot. He isn't the only one. Unfortunately.
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Post by tractor on Nov 30, 2013 8:07:44 GMT -5
Deed restrictions are pretty rare around us. You almost have to live in a condo complex in order to have any control over what your neighbors do. We have 34 acres with our only neighbors out along to road, not visible from our house. I have a bunch of junk outside that would offend most folks, but since I'm the only one who can see it, no one cares.
It's actually old farm machinery that I like to collect. I couldn't live in the city with neighbors so close I can smell them.
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Post by milee on Nov 30, 2013 8:10:37 GMT -5
It probably differs greatly by area, but from personal experience my biggest recommendation would be to avoid deed restricted communities in areas with large numbers of retirees. Retirees aren't necessarily bad people, it's a mix like any other group. The problem is that retirees have a lot of time on their hands. A lot. Of time. To do things like monitor each other and measure the length of your grass. And attend HOA meetings that happen at 10:30 AM on a Tuesday (set deliberately that way so that only retirees are available...)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 8:44:07 GMT -5
We are looking at 8 acres. The original owner has split off three lots, and lives near. It started with things like min sq footage of house... No prob. But they wanted to approve all plan, approve any building that goes on the lot, have to park in the garage, can't park in the driveway overnight.
i understand how they might have reservations with having the business at home. I wrote a nice synopsis explaining that is limited to just a personal office and storage of equipment and materials, how it would be stored... That our preliminary house plans don't contain a garage, nor have we ever parked our 2 vehicles in them...
they came back just with needing to keep equipment in a pole barn or equivalent, and we need to build a personal garage to keep our personal cars in overnight... Sigh. (Not sure if that means kids too while they are teens? Getting clarification)
I hate to be told where I will park... On 8 acres... But realize closer to civilization I might not escape some rules. This is the only lot I've seem in 8 months like thus, and near perfect.
I worry the neighbors are anal though...
Anyway, I was mostly wondering what kind of restrictions others had and where they drew the line...
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 30, 2013 8:46:19 GMT -5
I also live in the country with no deed restrictions. That is why the across the road neighbor has a toilet he replaced sitting in this back yard, which faces my house.
I used to live in a subdivision with the covenants and restrictions. They covered the colors you could paint your house, where you could put your garbage can (out of sight except on garbage day), where you could park (not on the street), whether you could have a basketball goal (no), and whether you could have a satellite dish(supposedly no, but everyone did under the assumption they were talking about that thing people used to place in their yard). I'll take the no deed restrictions despite the toilet. I like neighbors who mind their own business, not mine. You should ask for the toilet, paint it a pretty yellow, fill bowl and tank with dirt and plant with petunias, nasturtiums, and any other pretty trailing flowers and sit it in your back yard
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 8:47:40 GMT -5
How do I know if I have a deed restriction?
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Nov 30, 2013 9:34:32 GMT -5
...:::"I think everyone knows whoisjohngalt meant they can do "anything they want" within reason......everyone but you...":::...
"Reason" is also a highly subjective term. It is not illegal to paint one's house in neon yellow and pink polka dots, but it would be quite an eyesore.
I feel like HOAs are like lawyers and congressmen. Nobody likes them until they need their help.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 30, 2013 9:42:39 GMT -5
We have zoning laws, so nobody in our neighborhood can knock down their house and put up a 10 story apartment building - I appreciate that. We have laws that restrict how close you can build to the lot line, so my neighbor's house will never be closer to my house than 20 feet (I think, or maybe it would be 40 feet - can't remember.) After going into 'hoods were the houses are so close you could pass a jar of Grey Poupon between them, I appreciate that. We have a lot of historic committee requirements. Those are a little tougher. There are two theories behind preservation, one is to keep the spirit and feel of the era, and the other is to keep each house precisely intact. I am okay with the first one, but our committee believes in the second one. My neighbor has an original garage on the side of his house, and I would like to build one just like it, but I can't because my house didn't originally have one.
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Post by sesfw on Nov 30, 2013 10:05:42 GMT -5
My neighbor has an original garage on the side of his house, and I would like to build one just like it, but I can't because my house didn't originally have one.
In this case I would go to the committee and see about a variance.
In some cases deed restrictions are good when limited. Basically keeping a neighborhood clean and neat from the curb. However I've seen some gated communities that have committee members with way too much time on their hands. Not a good thing.
we have a wanna-be HOA in this neighborhood but it's a non issue. We installed a solar water heater without their blessing but the solar panel can't been seen from the street and it was put up in just a couple of hours. No problem.
I do like the suggestion of painting the toilet and planting trailing vines.
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Post by Regis on Nov 30, 2013 11:22:50 GMT -5
How do I know if I have a deed restriction? If you live in a subdivision, it may be on the plat or may be recorded separately. If you don't, it would be on the deed itself. And zoning restrictions and deed restrictions are not the same and are not necessarily controlled by the same jurisdictions. They may be - but in most cases they are not.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 30, 2013 11:58:06 GMT -5
Living in a subdivision we had restrictions on front and side set back requirements, no chain link fences, house size was limited to minimum of 2,500 sq ft and if not brick exterior had to be approved by developer (he lived there and owned/sold the lots) max 3 car carport/garage. Probably some others but can't remember. But we didn't have an HOA. Only 18 one acre lots on a cul de sac.
But we knew the restrictions before buying the lot as did everyone - had to buy from owner/future neighbor so no problem. He spelled these out when calling about lots for sale.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 12:41:33 GMT -5
boy MMC, thank you captain obvious....next thing you will say they can't grow marijuana on the property, sacrifice people during devil worshipping ceremonies, and things like that I think everyone knows whoisjohngalt meant they can do "anything they want" within reason......everyone but you
Everyone is a broad term.
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Post by Martivir on Nov 30, 2013 14:07:17 GMT -5
All our restrictions are placed by the village. I love how some of the restrictions seem to be common sense but if they had to make a code about then I guess it wasn't as common as it should be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 14:39:13 GMT -5
All our restrictions are placed by the village. I love how some of the restrictions seem to be common sense but if they had to make a code about then I guess it wasn't as common as it should be. Like what? I'm curious...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 16:20:07 GMT -5
I got a copy of covenants and restrictions when I closed on my garden house (actually a small house on a small lot but detached). The builder put them in place and legally recorded them.
I don't want a toilet flowerpot so no thanks on your "great" ideas. They are nice people, by the way. My guess is that think because it is in the "back" of their house, no one sees it. Unfortunately, my house fronts to their backyard.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 30, 2013 16:21:17 GMT -5
boy MMC, thank you captain obvious....next thing you will say they can't grow marijuana on the property, sacrifice people during devil worshipping ceremonies, and things like that I think everyone knows whoisjohngalt meant they can do "anything they want" within reason......everyone but you Can she knock down her house and build a 4-plex? Is that "within reason"?
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 30, 2013 16:26:36 GMT -5
They don't give variances on those types of things. I do have the option of pulling my house off the historic registry. Then I only have to follow city building code. But, there are two consequences. The first is that I no longer get the tax break for being historic. It would cost me roughly $5,000 per year more in property taxes. The second is that if enough people pull themselves off the registry, the status will be pulled from the neighborhood, resulting in everyone's taxes going up. They can't do anything official, but the peer pressure to stay on the registry is pretty intense. Some people have been bullied right out of the neighborhood for even exploring the idea.
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Post by Martivir on Nov 30, 2013 18:02:44 GMT -5
All our restrictions are placed by the village. I love how some of the restrictions seem to be common sense but if they had to make a code about then I guess it wasn't as common as it should be. Like what? I'm curious... We have houses that are kind of close together. It's part of the code that you are not allowed to place your garbage can against your neighbors house. Do not rake your leaves into the street.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 18:11:34 GMT -5
Deed restrictions are a lot like toilet paper. Nobody gives them a thought until they need to clean up business.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Nov 30, 2013 19:08:25 GMT -5
I also live in the country with no deed restrictions. That is why the across the road neighbor has a toilet he replaced sitting in this back yard, which faces my house.
I used to live in a subdivision with the covenants and restrictions. They covered the colors you could paint your house, where you could put your garbage can (out of sight except on garbage day), where you could park (not on the street), whether you could have a basketball goal (no), and whether you could have a satellite dish(supposedly no, but everyone did under the assumption they were talking about that thing people used to place in their yard). I'll take the no deed restrictions despite the toilet. I like neighbors who mind their own business, not mine. You should ask for the toilet, paint it a pretty yellow, fill bowl and tank with dirt and plant with petunias, nasturtiums, and any other pretty trailing flowers and sit it in your back yard I live where there are deed restrictions and an HOA so that I won't have the above next door to me. I live in Florida. Like a box of chocolates you just never know what you're going to get.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Nov 30, 2013 20:24:35 GMT -5
You should ask for the toilet, paint it a pretty yellow, fill bowl and tank with dirt and plant with petunias, nasturtiums, and any other pretty trailing flowers and sit it in your back yard I live where there are deed restrictions and an HOA so that I won't have the above next door to me. I live in Florida. Like a box of chocolates you just never know what you're going to get. southernsusana wasn't too impressed with my solution to the toilet I see anything with a hole in it as something that needs a plant!!!!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 30, 2013 23:39:14 GMT -5
boy MMC, thank you captain obvious....next thing you will say they can't grow marijuana on the property, sacrifice people during devil worshipping ceremonies, and things like that I think everyone knows whoisjohngalt meant they can do "anything they want" within reason......everyone but you Can she knock down her house and build a 4-plex? Is that "within reason"? There are some things that are regulated by the town itself, but really not many. So, yes, I probably could do that, since I have 6 acres.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Nov 30, 2013 23:39:50 GMT -5
We looked long and hard for a house that didn't have any covenants or restrictions. I can do whatever I want on my property and so can my neighbors. Your statement is overly broad. You can not construct a nuclear power plant in your yard for example.How do you know?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 23:44:38 GMT -5
Your statement is overly broad. You can not construct a nuclear power plant in your yard for example.How do you know? I'm the President.. The NRC reports to me.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 1, 2013 0:11:11 GMT -5
I'm the President.. The NRC reports to me.Clearly they don't report everything to you
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