Tennesseer
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 18, 2013 9:40:42 GMT -5
If all states had competent IDes, requiring an ID wouldn't be an issue.
In Massachusetts, getting a driver's licence or ID means spending 3 hours standing in line and then dealing with an evil, incompetent cow, who won't give her last name because she doesn't want to be held accountable for anything, and not getting what you need even when you have all your ducks in a row. As soon as I left the state for college, I started getting my driver's licence renewed in the state I was going to school in, because it was way less hassle.
My DH has a very generic first and last name and is about as white as one can be without being an albino. He couldn't get his driver's licence renewed in Florida because the licence lady found these outstanding warrants, all against african american men with different social security numbers, but the same first and last name. He finally went to another licence office, so he wouldn't have to deal with that person, and got his licence without any problems. Imagine that. The DMV told your husband all the outstanding warrants against men with your husband's first and last names were African American. Giving out priviledged information. S(he) should be disciplined/terminated just for that alone.
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Post by Opti on Sept 18, 2013 9:59:48 GMT -5
Virgil, my identity is verified by my signature. My polling place has a big book they look me up in where either my last or original signature is. I have to sign a piece of paper confirming it is me in front of the poll worker who compares it with the one on file before allowing me to vote.
Legally the minimum standard of competence to participate, if you want to call it that, is defined by the state in conjunction with federal guidelines. You must be registered to vote in the county you live in. There are laws which tell you how soon you need to register after a move and how many days before an election you need to get your voter registration in order to vote. NJ has streamlined the process so now voters can register at a DMV whether they are also doing an address change or not.
Photo ID has not been required at most state polls to vote. So it really has no bearing on what you want to call minimum standard of competence. In truth, its about meeting the legal requirements to register. Competence seems like a misnomer spin on the process. Is that the real reason you don't vote? You have failed the minimum level of competence in your opinion so you are unwilling to vote on those who manage your secular world?
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Virgil Showlion
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Sept 18, 2013 10:08:16 GMT -5
I'm saying that the ability to obtain it is a minimum standard of competency. An individual who cannot or will not obtain valid photo ID is not competent to vote. (ETA: The only legitimate barrier is lack of mobility, which is specifically why we have mail-in ballots.) I've gone even further to say that an individual who cannot pass an exam to verify their familiarity with the policies of the federal parties is not competent to vote, but as Tenn points out, administering exams isn't even close to being realistic. That would be "no". ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/sarcasm.png)
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