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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:40:08 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #31 - 07/19/09 12:51 AM  Not really but I think your arguments about an economic collapse are not realistic. So if someone points out your comments are silly or ludicrous then by all means do your thing and trash and bash... You also need to stop reading so much of this guy's BS which you have probably plagiarized for most of your silly comments about our economic collapse... NYU's 'Dr. Doom' Roubini: The worst is still ahead of us
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:40:48 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #32 - 07/19/09 12:56 AM
Reformed Day Trader. Do you mean to tell me that you are the only one who didn't get the word about the artificial support of the stock market, for the sole purpose of suckering the American people back into the markets? In fact, everywhere you turn in Washington, these geniuses are trying to con the public into believing that we can spend our way out of this mess that they created. On the other side of their mouths they then tell us that it's going to take longer than we thought. Mr. Paulson, excuse me, I mean Reformed Day Trader. No one looking at ALL of the factual data (not just the current artificial stock market) is buying any of it. But, hey. Maybe you can convince the Chinese.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:41:59 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #33 - 07/19/09 12:58 AM
No sorry to say but I didn't get the word ...been real busy this week trading stocks for a living and doing quite well this year for a change.. Who has been spreading the word??? Dr Doom Roubini??? I don't follow his doom and gloom sorry about that..
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:42:34 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #34 - 07/19/09 01:01 AM
Actually I am a Celente fan. His predictions, according to all of the news outlets (not just Fox), and scores of the worlds top economists have been proven to be 100% accurate (both good and bad), and I do not need to plagiarize anyone to sound a call to arms.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:44:53 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #35 - 07/19/09 01:06 AMGerald Celente....is about as credible as Jim Cramer and to claim he is 100% accurate may be just a stretch...the only guy who was 100% accurate died @ 2009 years ago - Who is Gerald Celente, why should we listen to him?
- Why we might just really see a commercial real estate crash in 2009
- What such a crash might mean for an already weakened economy
- What Celene thinks of Obama, and his non partisan view of Bush (Bush sucked too)
- What I see happening to commercial real estate in a 1 mile by 4 mile area in a “booming” area
- What watching one retail space go vacant while new ones are being built next to it really means
- Why we may very well see “tax revolts” and how it is directly connected to commercial real estate
- How tax revolts might look and what their impacts could be
- Is Mexico about to turn into a third world nation?
- What would 20 Million or more refugees from Mexico en mass mean for the U.S.
- If there is no threat to a failed Mexico why is the State of Texas preparing for it?
Gerald Celente’s latest Doom and Gloom forecasts...apparently he and Dr Doom Roubini are competing with each other for the title of the best Doom and Gloomier for 2009..... So far Dr Roubini has the lead but stay tuned Gerald Celente might beat him out this fall if we have an economic collapse as he predicts.This is dumb but hilarious...
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:48:25 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #36 - 07/19/09 01:18 AMI see from the other posts, that you have made elsewhere, that you like to argue with people for what seems to be the sake of arguing. You also use the above quote way too much. You do put in an effort to try to sound intelligent, but merely come off as arrogant and opinionated. You throw in the occasional arbitrary piece of data, much in like a statistician who does so for the sole purpose of skewing his results, but lack any real substance in any of your arguments. So why don't you just do us all a favor and just go away. Don't go away mad. Just go away.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:50:36 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #37 - 07/19/09 01:24 AM StayPut aren't most of your comments identical to comments that Gerald Celente made recently?? Why don't your provide him as your source?? Or do you and Gerald sing out of the same hymn book....In addition to Celente calling for an economic collapse this fall he also wants to have a tax revolt so will your go along with that ridiculous idea also?? If Celente is your source for all of your nonsense about an economic collapse this fall; then maybe you need a better source...his stuff is garbage...or maybe 10% accurate...
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:52:07 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #38 - 07/19/09 01:44 AM
RDT, as my last response to you, I will say this. I do not need to, nor have I "cut and pasted" or plagiarized Celente or anyone else. I have also read the same predictions from many other courageous economists, from around the world, and have followed up on much of the data that supports their assertions. I have also not read anything from that other guy that you tried to assign to me, but then you do work overtime in your attempt to discredit anyone who is not willing to just drink the governments kool aid along with you. It is obvious that you have imbibed several gallons of the stuff. Come this fall you can come back and share with us all how that worked out for you. In the meantime I will continue to sound the alarm and try to help as many people realize that they need to get themselves and their families prepared for the economic nightmare about to befall us all. If that cuts into your stock market profits, there is one consolation for you. You do have the rest of your life to get over it.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:53:52 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #39 - 07/19/09 01:45 AMReally then you might enjoy this Celente video And what will be your excuse if we don't have an economic collapse this fall that you and Celente are predicting??? Keep sounding that alarm we all really appreciate doom and gloom scenarios these days But I think Big tech earnings week will reveal economic trends...and not Celente..
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:54:35 GMT -5
hum-ok
Message #40 - 07/19/09 06:55 AM
Being prepared for what could be coming would be wise but not being prepared with all the indicators we have is plain foolish. Which you choose is up to each individual. We have the derivatives mess and the unimaginable debt our govt is creating plus we have Obama running toward fascism, China trying to usurp the dollar as the world currency and try to buy up all the gold they can get their hands on, another huge wave of foreclosures coming, people losing their jobs daily, states days away from bankruptcy, two wars, China and possibly Russia trying to crash our govts computers, banks making huge amounts of money but not loaning very much out, small business's closing up daily and more but I am glad for those that think we are doing just fine. This is different from what Carter did to this country and will be much worse and last longer. You can stick your head in the sand or you can pay attention, its up to you.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:55:44 GMT -5
thicknthin
Message #41 - 07/19/09 08:24 AMMy wife and I have enough food, water, and supplies to see us through a short term crisis (earthquake, terrorist attack, etc.). Maybe a few months at best. We have family and friends who do not and we know they would show up at our front door because they know we have supplies. Would we turn them away? I don`t think so. We probably would not turn anyone away that comes peacefully in need. The only way I would use force is to protect ourselves from those who would take from us forcefully or hurt us to get what they want. Obviously our supplies would not last long under these circumstances but I don`t really think I could enjoy a meal when I know others are starving....especially children. When we went to Cebu in the Philippines we were really impressed how people bonded and shared in the poor areas. They shared a full bowl of rice or 1/2 bowl of rice....whatever they had. It did not appear that they feared death at all. They knew they were right with God and they were in his hands. They lived the best they could with what they had. Families are tight knit units and they are all willing to help each other. We were just so impressed and crime there was at a minimum. Those people believe that man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedith from the mouth of God. I just hope that when the crap does hit the fan here (and it will ), that we can live or die with dignity and no fear. A tall order but certainly we can all do that if we want to IMO.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:56:19 GMT -5
PatrioticStablest
Message #42 - 07/19/09 10:01 AM
I would love to say the stock market was an indicator. In the past you had good companies and you could depend on them for years because they were built for the future and tomorrow. Now its all a giant ponzi scheme we only look at the balance sheet for this month, this quarter. When all the bonuses are geared to short term that's all they are worried about tomorrow be damned. So the prices are driven up or results are manipulated to look good, yep, I'm a former accountant.
The next problem is if a company is doing good then some hedge fund or other outfit will buy them up to drain the money so it can't be reinvested in plants and equipment.
Then there is the issue of moving overseas, the wage and insurance issues are just excuses. Anyother reading the WSJ would have noted over 3 or 4 years ago we were warned that companies in 2009 and on had already made plans to leave the US no matter what happened and that's exactly what they are doing.
I dislike bush intensely but I will give credit, he tried once. He wanted companies to repatriate earnings and they also could not be used for executive bonuses but for real investment in this country. They lowered the tax to 5% as an incentive. Very very few would do it. If the taxes were 0 they wouldn't do it. They want all the benefits of our freedom and safety but want to pay none of the dues required to keep it that way. If someting isn't done about all this this country is indeed doomed.
So we are in a world of hurt and its getting worse. So what do my husband and son do? They both work overseas so we can make a good living, isn't that ironic. And yes our taxes raised too but its still worth it. We are in a world of hurt as an economy and country. And I do worry about our future.
My husband and I were raised the old ways, I and he know how to do it all pretty much, but self sufficiency isn't what its cracked up to be. It's long hard days and very hard work, I can attest to that from my growing up years. And our issue is we are in our 60's while we might be able to do it 10 more years at some point the body won't any longer. I do hope things turn around but people will have learned nothing and will do it over again. Sad
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:56:55 GMT -5
cedaredge
Message #43 - 07/19/09 11:14 AM
Stay Put.................you see clearly what "Mr. 48 hours" is all about. It's a waste of time to fall for his/her 'bait & attack' tactics.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:57:22 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #44 - 07/19/09 11:34 AM
cedaredge, This is why I refuse to repond to her anymore.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 20, 2010 23:58:39 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #45 - 07/19/09 11:49 AM
Then don't repond and Thanx I needed that today ...one less irritating itch to deal with who can't even spell correctly....Thumbs Down
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:00:29 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #46 - 07/19/09 12:12 PM
cedaredge, is it just me or do you get dizzy trying to keep up with all of the revisions the RDT makes on her postings/attacks?
You have been reading her stuff a lot longer than I, so maybe you could shed some light on what she wrote. Is that first word suppose to be "Then"?
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:01:08 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #47 - 07/19/09 12:15 PM
Stay Put,
I am a HE. And you have been here long enough to know it so grow up or if you prefer to act like a child then we will treat you like a child.......
RDT
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:01:51 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #48 - 07/19/09 12:37 PM
RDT, I have not read much of anything that you have written, but what I have read is strongly akin to a woman's style of writing. From my clearly male perspective, that is. Therefore I presumed that you were, w/out any doubt, of the feminine persuasion. Having spent four years in the Marine Corps, I act like a man, talk like a man, and write like a man. When it comes to individuals, like yourself, who blur that line, I do not have enough exposure around your type (by choice) to be able to distinguish between a woman or someone of your lifestyle choice. So therefore, no insult was intended when I referred to you as "she".
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:03:24 GMT -5
cedaredge
Message #49 - 07/19/09 12:52 PMLOL!!!!!! Thumbs Up, Stay Put............. Yes, he/she and I have been sparring for quite some time. But he/she says such outrageous things that it's hard to NOT swat the GNAT  Now I must enjoy my day. Here's to you Stay Put............
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:05:42 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #50 - 07/19/09 01:07 PM
Then try to check your enormous ego at the door and you will not be offended so much...try it and see how it works out for you. And for someone who said they would not REPOND, your are doing a lot of REPONDing whatever that is.... So maybe stick with your doom and gloomer predictions they are hilarious..
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:07:28 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #51 - 07/19/09 01:26 PM
RDT, you have attacked, degraded, and belittled anyone with an opposing point of view from your own. You have attacked me repeatedly on one spelling error, when you have clearly made multiple spelling errors throughout your many posts. You also seem hell bent on alienating yourself from as many people on here as you can.
I did not know that you were ever a Moderator, nor do I claim to know the circumstances as to why you no longer maintain that position. I do know this, however, given what you have written in just the past two days, I am certain that many people are grateful that you no longer hold that position. I am certain that many more would be even more grateful if you took a couple of days off, and came back with a better attitude.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:09:06 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #52 - 07/19/09 01:32 PMWrong just you and Cedaredge or two of a kind or the same ilk..Cedaredge and StayPut now there's a pair to draw to...... StayPut you are much too thin-skinned to have served in the Marines for four years which begs the question are you real or are you memorex..? Or you can hit the ignore button for all of my posts here which is exactly what I plan to do with all of your pontificating ..... Have A Nice Day, RDT
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:10:54 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #53 - 07/19/09 01:46 PM
Here's an idea. Instead of constantly revising your posts, collect your thoughts before you start hammering away at those keys. You will otherwise continue to make the same spelling and grammatical mistakes that you seem to have such a problem with when it comes to others. Not that it's any of your business, but I was stationed three years at French Creek, and my last year over at Camp Hansen. Finally, projecting your own short comings onto others does not make anyone other than yourself lacking in all of the areas that you like to accuse others of.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:12:09 GMT -5
HenryClay
Message #54 - 07/19/09 01:54 PM
French Creek? I guess that came along after my time. Where is it? What do they do there?
Canp Hansen. Isn't that the Okinawa NTA? I thought they closed it down.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:12:56 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #55 - 07/19/09 02:05 PM
French Creek is three miles north of main side, on Camp Lejeune, NC. I can't speak to any closings today, but when I was there, I was in 3rd Combat Engineers, at Camp Hansen, OKinawa. If I recall correctly, the town outside of our base was called Kinville. It's in the northern part of the Island.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:13:25 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #56 - 07/19/09 02:56 PM
Main side, Onslow Beach, French Creek, etc., etc., are all part of Camp Lejeune in good old North Cacalacky. You can get all of the cudzoo (sp) and chiggers you could ever hope to want.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:13:56 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #57 - 07/19/09 03:17 PM
Henry you might be interested to know that my favorite base was the old Boston Navy Yard in Charlestown Massachusetts and the worse had to be Parris Island. The Boston Navy Yard Marine Barracks were designed and constructed to be identical to the living quarters aboard a Battleship. Leatherneck Magazine had the Boston Navy Yard highlighted in one of their issues just before it was closed. And they rated the Boston Navy Yard Marine Barracks as one of the top three duty stations in the Marine Corps for both the base and of course having the USS Constitution as one of it's guard stations; along with liberty in old Beantown, and occasionally free tickets to the Red Sox, Bruins, and Celtics home games.. If my memory is correct 8th and I Marine Barracks in Washington DC was rated #1 by Leatherneck Magazine and Kaneohe Bay Hawaii was #2, and the Boston Navy Yard was #3..I think..??
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:15:17 GMT -5
neohguy
Message #58 - 07/19/09 04:22 PM
I think that the market problems are by no means over with. So Stay Put I agree that we are indeed in for some serious economic times. On the other hand I think that trying to call a collapse of all social structure in the next 2-3 months is ridiculous. Was this the same time frame you reported when you started a thread on MT after a long absence?
Gloom and doomers/ end of the world types seem to be primarily rural folk that have some misconceived notion that urban dwellers by the millions are going to assault their caves to steel their cache of spam. Yet history has shown that cities usually get inundated with people from rural areas. Being an urban dweller I can assure you that city folk will not abandon surroundings they are familiar with to wander around like zombies in the countryside.
I've watched your posts for a long time Stay Put. Your earlier comments:
and:
pretty much reinforces my opinion that you have a pathological issue of wanting to kill people and are hoping for a reason to do it. I have never heard you say that you would help feed someone that is starving. I have heard you gleefully brag about the weapons that you have for killing someone that is desperate and starving.
Other than that I do enjoy your commodities thread and other comments about the economy.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:22:31 GMT -5
Stay Put
Message #59 - 07/19/09 04:43 PM
neohguy, thank you for the critique. If you take my comments out of context, I can see how you might draw the conclusions that you have. If, however, you read the statements of others who have stated that supposed hordes of people would come out of the woodwork to attack me for my food and other supplies, because I have prepared for the melt down and others have not, you might just realize that I am merely answering that scenario presented to me. This does not mean that I would turn away someone who comes to me peaceably, asking for help.
It has been instilled in me that the only good defense is an outstanding offense. If anyone came to harm my loved ones, to try and take away by force the food that will allow us to survive a melt down, then yes, I would kill without hesitation. If using deadly force to protect my loved ones makes me "blood thirsty", then so be it. It should be noted, however, that I am not looking for that scenario to unfold. I am prepared for that contingency though.
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Post by traelin0 on Dec 21, 2010 0:29:00 GMT -5
Reformed DayTrader
Message #60 - 07/19/09 05:12 PM
You said what will turn out to be the greatest depression and should you have probably said could turn out to the greatest depression which had us believing we were practically calling for the end of the world this fall..... I read all of your warnings that doom and gloom is alive and well and we will see an economic collapse this fall which I disagreed with last night and think you are just echoing the doom and gloomers around the networks today like Calente and Roubini....
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Not really but I think your arguments about an economic collapse are not realistic. So if someone points out your comments are silly or ludicrous then by all means do your thing and trash and bash...
