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Post by doxieluvr on Apr 16, 2013 11:12:57 GMT -5
I bottle fed both of my children. Never had a public feeding crisis of any kind. No showing of boobs, no screaming baby because he wanted a boob and best of all, it was not necessary for me to even be there for baby to be fed.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Apr 16, 2013 11:19:23 GMT -5
I bottle fed both of my children. Never had a public feeding crisis of any kind. No showing of boobs, no screaming baby because he wanted a boob and best of all, it was not necessary for me to even be there for baby to be fed. Hmm... I breastfed (breastfeeding) both my babies, never had a public feeding crisis of any kind, no showing of boobs, no screaming baby because she/he got exactly what she wanted, and since I work full time I obviously don't have to be there for the baby to get fed either. Best of all I had fewer bottles to wash and I saved money.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Apr 16, 2013 11:22:12 GMT -5
Good point, FB. The layover is usually about an hour. Long enough to get to the next terminal and grab a bite to eat. If we let DD walk the whole time then she might go for it. Umbrella stroller & baby leash are going on the list of things to bring along. You can gate-check a stroller, right?
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 11:23:58 GMT -5
I bottle fed both of my children. Never had a public feeding crisis of any kind. No showing of boobs, no screaming baby because he wanted a boob and best of all, it was not necessary for me to even be there for baby to be fed. Good for you? Every baby is different, and every family is different. We do a combination of nursing and formula. Obviously I don't exclusively breastfeed since I'm back at work, so I don't need to be there either. In fact, Babybird typically prefers a bottle - but when she's in an unfamiliar environment, she wants to nurse. It's inconvenient but what can you do?
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 11:26:41 GMT -5
Good point, FB. The layover is usually about an hour. Long enough to get to the next terminal and grab a bite to eat. If we let DD walk the whole time then she might go for it. Umbrella stroller & baby leash are going on the list of things to bring along. You can gate-check a stroller, right? Yes, you can. But if you've got a lot of luggage, I personally think it's easier to put them in a sling or other carrier. I thought about bringing Babybird's stroller but it would have been a major PITA to haul it around along with everything else. We got by with her car seat (which was checked), one small carry-on suitcase with wheels, and one diaper bag. Babybird was in her Wahloo or Bjorn. It was tricky but I was able to move everything on my own.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 11:29:37 GMT -5
I agree with generic, travel is what handheld electronics were made for in my opinion. Ds, Tablets, phones and pods full of music, books, movies and games have cut down on carry on packing considerably...
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Post by wvugurl26 on Apr 16, 2013 11:41:30 GMT -5
I don't get the big deal with boobs. Beats a screaming baby! I'll save my concern for whether there's a cat in the row in front of me. Last time that happened on a cross country flight I was in a full blown asthma attack on landing. I'm not allergic to babies
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Post by Phoenix84 on Apr 16, 2013 11:54:12 GMT -5
"Don't ignore your child when they are crying their lungs out or making a scene."
This x 1000.
I'm usually pretty tolerant of crying kids on airplanes. I can normally just pop in my headphones and listen to books on tape and tune it out. 9 times out of 10 the kid settles down within 30 minutes anyway. But what does bug me is when the kid is crying and the parents just sit there and do nothing about it. For example, I've seen a couple of cases where the baby obviously needed to be changed, and was cring, but the parents refused to go change the kid. You could smell it too. Eventually the flight attendent had to go ask them to change the kid.
The only other thing I can think of is I find it odd when parents fly really late at night with small children. They are obviously tired and cranky because of it. I realize sometimes it might not be an option, but still, if I were a parent I'd try and fly during the day whenever possible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 11:57:41 GMT -5
I bottle fed both of my children. Never had a public feeding crisis of any kind. No showing of boobs, no screaming baby because he wanted a boob and best of all, it was not necessary for me to even be there for baby to be fed. I breastfed both of mine for over a year and never had a public feeding crisis of any kind either. I didn't have to "show" my boobs or deal with a screaming, hungry baby. And best of all, I never had to pack/make up bottles. Dinner was always ready anywhere I was. And if I couldn't be around there was a freezer full of pumped milk so I didn't HAVE to be there either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 12:00:33 GMT -5
I flew with my older son a lot. Under a year was a piece of cake. 18 months to about 3 sucked. I learned for the second one. When we went to Hawaii last February and younger son was 18 months, I left him with Grandma.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 12:03:44 GMT -5
The only other thing I can think of is I find it odd when parents fly really late at night with small children. They are obviously tired and cranky because of it. I realize sometimes it might not be an option, but still, if I were a parent I'd try and fly during the day whenever possible. Depending on the kid it might be better. We took overnight flights for anything over 8 hours or so. Our son would sleep the entire time. The worst for us were afternoon flights when they needed a nap but were too stimulated by all the stuff going on to sleep.
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Post by justme on Apr 16, 2013 12:07:38 GMT -5
I haven't had much of a problem on flights with kids - there was one time it was annoying but not enough to make a big deal out of it. I was flying a later flight home to Orlando and there was a big family - bunch of siblings/cousins with kids obviously going to Disney with riled up kids. The old lady originally next to me switched seats with this woman who had a kid young enough to be a lap baby so she could be next her sister/something and there were other kids sitting behind me. One glare to the ones behind me got the mom to stop the kid from hitting/kicking my seat, but the mom next to me was talking to someone else and not paying attention to the kid. She wasn't screaming or anything but kept trying to get my attention by "talking" or leaning over and sometimes bumping into me - I smiled and waved at her and such for a min or two when she got next to me but after that I was over it. Felt bad ignoring the kid, but I wanted to relax on the flight since I was coming home from a work trip.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 12:50:24 GMT -5
I am one of those that think women should be discrete when feeding their infants. If it isn't ok for you to expose your boobs to the world when a baby isn't latch onto, then it isn't ok for you to expose your boobs to people ever. Just my opinioni and I'm always in the minority...I'm ok with that you should stop hiding those things
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Post by tcu2003 on Apr 16, 2013 13:10:53 GMT -5
Honest question - they don't make car seats for infants that will fit in an airplane seat? The Captain - So what if they do? I thought your point was that flying with an infant disturbs fellow passengers and shouldn't ever be done. Putting her in a car seat wouldn't have helped with that in the slightest since, as I said, she needed me to hold her the whole time anyway. She was much quieter in my lap than she would have been in her car seat, trust me on that. This is my kid in a nutshell. He's 10 months old, and has been on 8 flights already, with another two coming up this next week. He doesn't like his carseat, so there's no way I'm subjecting a plane full of fellow passengers to his screaming because he's in his carseat instead of my lap (or DH's, when we're traveling together). Add in the fact that I'm nursing, and nurse him on takeoffs and landings so the change in pressure doesn't bother him, so it'd be a recipe for disaster to put him in his carseat on a flight. I've flown coach and first class with him, and it has yet to be a problem - DH and I don't ignore him, and try to solve any problems he has before they escalate, so there's rarely an issue. Most of the time, if you don't seem him, you don't know there is a baby on board. When he does cry, we try to fix the issue so he stops, so most passengers don't have any issues with it.
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 14:52:25 GMT -5
Babies honestly seem easier than toddlers - just in general.
I'm kind of dreading the toddler stage with Babybird, to be quite honest.
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 16, 2013 14:54:48 GMT -5
There are lots of fun things with toddlers too.
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Post by swamp on Apr 16, 2013 15:01:49 GMT -5
There are lots of fun things with toddlers too. Flying is not one of them.
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 15:03:06 GMT -5
There are lots of fun things with toddlers too. Enlighten me, please? My friend has been talking about her trouble with her rowdy toddler (he's *very* rowdy, I can attest to this personally) and reading her posts makes me want to pray to baby Jesus for mercy.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 16, 2013 15:08:17 GMT -5
I like that she can either tell me or show me what she wants instead of me having to guess after I've elminated poop/food/sleep.
It's also adorable when she announces she loves us.
She's a lot more interesting now that she's older and we can do more things with her. Taking her to the zoo as a baby was boring. Taking her to the zoo at 2.5 was a blast.
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 15:18:33 GMT -5
So far so good
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 15:19:32 GMT -5
I'm still waiting for mine to talk... although he does say "hi". But he mostly communicates in the form of grunts, points, yells, and sounds like he's asking a question. What he lacks in speech skills he more than makes up for in escaping and mischief-making.
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Post by raeoflyte on Apr 16, 2013 15:20:53 GMT -5
I love the baby stage, so I totally get the concern, but watching them become their own person really is fun. Ds is a mellow kid, so I know I've lucked out so far and don't have too many horror stories. He tells jokes, and gets so excited about everyday things, that he reminds me to stop overthinking everything and just enjoy what is.
There are lots of boring moments too. The potty mantra certainly gets old, but doesn't last forever.
I flew with ds at 22 months and it was fine. No crying, and he was in my lap (I was told all rows have 4 oxygen masks). Mostly luck because I know it could have been different, but it worked out.
We did have 4 weeks of hell starting the day he turned 3. Nothing in our routines or lives had changed, but his personality did a 180. I was 3 months pregnant with dd, and was just terrified of what we had gotten ourselves into. And then he changed back just as suddenly as before. If that had lasted, I'd have very different feelings about toddlerhood.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Apr 16, 2013 15:24:22 GMT -5
1. Hide and Seek 2. Playing Tag 3. Asking him where something is and he says "Behind" 4. Building sandcastles 5. Playing in the fort 6. The zoo 7. Asking him how is day was and having him prattle on about who knows what. 8. Having him ask if Gigi and Papa Bill are here. 9. Story time 10. Having him sing the ABCs while we get supper ready
The talking ones are only in the last year for us, but it is really so much fun to watch them grow up and learn things. The zoo was fun before he could talk, it is a BLAST now. Last night his sister was crazy fussy and I was rocking her and he came over and rubbed her back while I was rocking and said "its ok sissy".
Other things that are more fun - I don't worry about sleep any more, I don't worry about food any more, he can help us clean up.
Full disclosure, DH and I are much bigger fans of having a toddler/preschooler than an infant.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 16, 2013 15:27:47 GMT -5
Other things that are more fun - I don't worry about sleep any more, I don't worry about food any more, he can help us clean up.
I can see an end to diapers! Dayce prices are decreasing. There are days when I want to sell her to the gypsies but in general I like the toddler stage a lot better.
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Post by Firebird on Apr 16, 2013 15:30:45 GMT -5
I love the baby stage, so I totally get the concern, but watching them become their own person really is fun.
I can't say I love the baby stage either - not to sound negative! Babybird is pretty fun right now but I find baby stages a major challenge.
The age I know FOR SURE I love is 5-8. I lived with a friend and her daughter went through approximately each of those ages. It was a blast. She was old enough to help out around the house and entertain herself sometimes, but she loved to play and read and do the things we were doing. She told awesome little-kid stories too. So I'm looking forward to that age group.
Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying watching Babybird grow into BIG Babybird and it's super fun watching her personality develop. But I'm definitely not a baby/toddler person.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Apr 16, 2013 15:31:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like how everything is a crisis right now. OMG the tears in our house if things aren't just the way he wants them. But 90% of the time he is so much fun. I love the excitement that there is a bird outside or a tractor. The happiness when he looks outside and says "Look, I see the neighbor's house".
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Post by Labcat on Apr 16, 2013 15:59:00 GMT -5
For the toddler stage I would just recommend bringing lots of different things to do. I don't know if you could still do this today but when I made the flight from MI to FL at age 3 my mom brought along my little plastic suitcase that had sticker books, coloring books and anything else that would keep me occupied for the flight. Perfect child...if I do say so myself.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Apr 16, 2013 16:07:33 GMT -5
OOO, I just remembered. If baby gets a seat, then baby gets a carry-on (and I don't believe the carseat counts). YAY! We might be able to not have to check any bags if we can just use our two rolled carry-ons.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Apr 16, 2013 16:16:48 GMT -5
Well, just so y'all know....we are flying on Thursday. I promise to be a kind, polite flier and entertain all the kids on the plane with snacks and toys. We don't have kids, I'll just entertain everyone else's. It's easier than hearing them cry for three hours.
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