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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 31, 2012 14:12:46 GMT -5
Thread title should now be 'Release the Krak.'.
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Post by EVT1 on Oct 31, 2012 14:14:08 GMT -5
Smokin the Krak
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Post by EVT1 on Oct 31, 2012 14:15:44 GMT -5
Shouldn't he be using those surrogates in CA or NY since Romney has already locked up the rest of the country? ;D
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Post by Waffle on Oct 31, 2012 14:25:38 GMT -5
I've missed something - Did somebody steal the S key from Virgil's keyboard?
Back to topic (more or less): 'splain it to me Paul. This tour of 100 Republicans - sounds like a desperation move to me. Why would one need to do that - if it was already over?
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Post by deziloooooo on Oct 31, 2012 14:35:10 GMT -5
I think you are more right than wrong dezi. If he is re-elected he gets political capital. Plus, as you say, the Republicans no longer will concentrate on trying toblock his chancces for re-election because he will not be up for re-election. I do think after about two years lame duck disease starts to become a factor though. JMO. On he lame duck illness ,thing is it's something that always comes up in that time period, but he would still be the POTUS and the big initiatives should have been presented..done or lost with in the first two years, what ever and the last two years he'll be doing what all POTUS would , governing as the riff raff scramble to get elected...some house cleaning, finishing touches on what ever is not yet done and settling the immediate problems that are showing up that POTUS have to be involved in such as the flare up this past week on the Eastern seaboard .. Depending on who is nominated from his party, that would be interesting..I don't think Joe would be interested for some reason.....Hillery either actually. I believe she will be helping Bill out with his little, [not so little in importance and good deeds} philanthropic endeavor, possible her daughter and Son in Law also involved..family working together are a happy family..?.. Think Kerry would take another shot at it? By that time the country may be ready for a change in parties or possible just stay the course if things continue to improve..Dems a bit more prudent with the almighty $ and the pubs loosening up a bit and telling their more stringent and vocal types to gt the stick out or go some where else..if they can find some where else and still have any real influence..I doubt it just as I feel the ultra left is caught in the same quandary..who would have em and whee would they have any influence at all..? A third party? Unlike some her I am not a big one In the practicality of such things here..not saying they would or would not be a good thing but realistically I do feel..a third party vote now is just a waste..possible if your vote really means nothing..thinking my Democratic votes in Texas during my sojourn there for 11 years but still..just a futile endeavor actually..
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 15:20:28 GMT -5
I've missed something - Did somebody steal the S key from Virgil's keyboard? Back to topic (more or less): 'splain it to me Paul. This tour of 100 Republicans - sounds like a desperation move to me. Why would one need to do that - if it was already over? I don't know- why is there so much talk about Sandy and a Republican Governor that was a servant of satan saving the Obama presidency, and the need for President Obama to look "presidential" when he is allegedly already winning, and already president?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 15:30:00 GMT -5
I think you are more right than wrong dezi. If he is re-elected he gets political capital. Plus, as you say, the Republicans no longer will concentrate on trying toblock his chancces for re-election because he will not be up for re-election. I do think after about two years lame duck disease starts to become a factor though. JMO. On he lame duck illness ,thing is it's something that always comes up in that time period, but he would still be the POTUS and the big initiatives should have been presented..done or lost with in the first two years, what ever and the last two years he'll be doing what all POTUS would , governing as the riff raff scramble to get elected...some house cleaning, finishing touches on what ever is not yet done and settling the immediate problems that are showing up that POTUS have to be involved in such as the flare up this past week on the Eastern seaboard .. Depending on who is nominated from his party, that would be interesting..I don't think Joe would be interested for some reason.....Hillery either actually. I believe she will be helping Bill out with his little, [not so little in importance and good deeds} philanthropic endeavor, possible her daughter and Son in Law also involved..family working together are a happy family..?.. Think Kerry would take another shot at it? By that time the country may be ready for a change in parties or possible just stay the course if things continue to improve..Dems a bit more prudent with the almighty $ and the pubs loosening up a bit and telling their more stringent and vocal types to gt the stick out or go some where else..if they can find some where else and still have any real influence..I doubt it just as I feel the ultra left is caught in the same quandary..who would have em and whee would they have any influence at all..? A third party? Unlike some her I am not a big one In the practicality of such things here..not saying they would or would not be a good thing but realistically I do feel..a third party vote now is just a waste..possible if your vote really means nothing..thinking my Democratic votes in Texas during my sojourn there for 11 years but still..just a futile endeavor actually.. I agree with you on the lame duck session- won't be much opportunity there. I can't believe you didn't come up with the next Democrat Presidential nominee, though. I mean as much as I hate to help you all out, I can think of three off the top of my head: 1. New Mexico Governor, Bill Richardson 2. Former Florida Governor, RINO-turned-Independent-turned-Democrat, Charlie Crist 3. Former Virginia Governor Tim Kaine Richardson may be tainted by his endorsement of Obama and perma-feud with the Clintons. Crist has obvious waffling issues- but as Mitt Romney would be his likely rival, it's doubtful they'll have a meaningful conversation about who the bigger Etch-A-Sketcher is. Tim Kaine has the best prospects. Moderate guy, could clear up the Chicago cloud that hangs over the D's right now while simultaneously restoring some southern state cred- maybe delivering in addition to Virginia, Ohio and the Carolinas. Edited to say "presidential nominee" instead of president.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 15:31:53 GMT -5
I like that guy from Texas... Spoke at the convention?... Hispanic... ? Can't remember his name...
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Post by Waffle on Oct 31, 2012 15:51:56 GMT -5
How about Gov. Cuomo as a 2016 presidential candidate? Kerry will be 72 and perceived to be too old by many.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 15:55:31 GMT -5
I like that guy from Texas... Spoke at the convention?... Hispanic... ? Can't remember his name... Are you referring to the LA Mayor? How about Gov. Cuomo as a 2016 presidential candidate? Kerry will be 72 and perceived to be too old by many. My opinion on this is that this is going to be such a stunning landslide for Romney that the LA, Chicago, NY contingent is going to be riding in the back of the bus for awhile.
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Post by b2r on Oct 31, 2012 16:02:07 GMT -5
I think she means Julian Castro... Or his brother...or both?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 16:05:24 GMT -5
Well, we elected a Barack Hussein Obama, so who knows- maybe a Castro will fly. He'll have to win without Florida, that's for damn sure.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 16:57:56 GMT -5
smart politicking. poor state choices.
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Post by usaone on Oct 31, 2012 17:03:06 GMT -5
smart politicking. poor state choices. I agree DJ.....meanwhile Virginia and Ohio are slipping away to Obama.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 17:03:08 GMT -5
i already noted that the examiner is about 5% off every other poll tracker in the US. if that wasn't clear enough for you, try this one on for size: their analysis is totally biased nonsense.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 17:07:23 GMT -5
I don't think predictions are on a definitive win... I think most have him at 281-294. not quite. it is more like 281-316Its just that he is likely that he will reach that number. Very few are suggesting Obama will win by a lot... just that he WILL win. So i'm not sure how its consolation if what is being predicted actually happens ?? it isn't. but it will be devastating to those who have predicted, with no uncertainty, that Romney will win.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 17:08:48 GMT -5
So while everyone makes predictions and fantasies about who will "win" what remains much less clear is what happens after the election. gridlock either way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 17:09:35 GMT -5
That may be the best new thread title yet.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 17:11:17 GMT -5
Paul I will give you this. You can spin anything. Or was this Rush's latest little pearl of mis-wisdom? seriously. he should apply for work at FOX, now that Saint Sarah is gone.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 17:16:09 GMT -5
smart politicking. poor state choices. I agree DJ.....meanwhile Virginia and Ohio are slipping away to Obama. Virginia is an interesting state for Obama. if he wins it, there are about a dozen ways he can win the election without Ohio. in other words, it creates a second line of defense for Obama. it is smart for him to campaign there, and smart for Romney to campaign there. i think that the upper midwest is stone cold stupid for both of them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 18:51:10 GMT -5
I think at this point Romney has basically no chance. Paul--If Obama wins (and I hope he doesn't), will you commit now to changing this thread's title to "Oops, PalmBeachPaul was wrong again. Always doubt me."
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 31, 2012 19:34:17 GMT -5
I think at this point Romney has basically no chance. Paul--If Obama wins (and I hope he doesn't), will you commit now to changing this thread's title to "Oops, PalmBeachPaul was wrong again. Always doubt me." what brought you to this conclusion, ib?
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 31, 2012 20:00:28 GMT -5
How about.......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 20:11:07 GMT -5
That may be the best new thread title yet. I agree. As much as I enjoy the word "mittmentum," I'm sorry it is gone.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 20:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Oct 31, 2012 20:23:17 GMT -5
I think the Great Pumpkin (King?) traditionally gets deposed the day following Halloween. It ain't over until the polls close.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 20:28:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I think we're past the point where national polls matter. It's not all Ohio, but it is all swing states.
Do we have any data to suggest that absentee ballot requests are related to overall voter turnout? The only time I have voted absentee is when I was travelling on election day, other than the military and the infirm (stereotype: old, probably Republican), are there a lot of habitual absentee voters?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2012 20:31:29 GMT -5
That's it! Castro. He was almost as good as Obama 04... He could work.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 31, 2012 20:36:37 GMT -5
I think the Great Pumpkin (King?) traditionally gets deposed the day following Halloween. It ain't over until the polls close. And we hand-recount Chicken Shit County Ohio 9 times until they come up with the 279 votes they need to win. Or Romney wins so big that it is "suspicious" because none of the polls predicted it, so the Justice Department start suing everyone everywhere and Democrats get the 47%ers all lathered up with some Diebold conspiracy theory. In reality, Romney is going to win- and win big. Look at all the polls, and 5% for Romney, and that's the reality. The last poll going into the election in 1980 showed Jimmy Carter up 6%. Nobody saw the landslide coming because of something I haven't even thought about this year: Reagan got 25% of the DEMOCRAT vote. And now that I've got that to chew on, we could be looking at even bigger numbers. Because Romney could well be getting a nice chunk of Democrat voters...(oh, my...)
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 31, 2012 20:37:38 GMT -5
...are there a lot of habitual absentee voters? States of Oregon and Washington are all by mail voting if that counts.
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