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Post by mmhmm on Aug 7, 2012 15:02:00 GMT -5
Is it our right to re-write history? If it's your history, thyme, I won't stand in your way. You may do as you like with it.
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swasat
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Post by swasat on Aug 7, 2012 15:02:44 GMT -5
I can see I need to take my own advice and step away for awhile. Honestly I'm really disappointed with everyone's behavior. The amount of bullying, snark, condemnation, and general asshat like actions and words from everyone here is pretty sad.... ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) SOOOOO true Sroo. I am utterly saddened by the snark here. If we look at WWBG's history as a mod, yesterday stands out as a black day. The ONLY black day. All the other days of moderating by him are being overlooked by one single black day.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 7, 2012 15:03:01 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all.
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mmhmm
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Post by mmhmm on Aug 7, 2012 15:03:12 GMT -5
I just want the record to be complete so people can decide for themself what action, if any, is warranted. I don't think that can be provided, milee. I know I'm unable to provide it.
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swamp
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Post by swamp on Aug 7, 2012 15:03:38 GMT -5
An apology from loopdilou to Swamp for saying she's a 'waste of oxygen'. I don't think she was referring to me. If she was, eh, whatever.
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Taxman10
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 7, 2012 15:03:59 GMT -5
I promote relations with underage kittens - Colleenz YM crazy cat lady I find this highly offensive...underage kitten relations should NEVER be joked about <<this post in no way suggests that I promote relations with underage girls>>
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 15:04:02 GMT -5
An apology from loopdilou to Swamp for saying she's a 'waste of oxygen'. Oh yah.. that's definitely who I was referring to. So, sorry, Swamp ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I'll delete you as my fb friend later.. 'cause I never am friends with wastes of oxygen ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by swamp on Aug 7, 2012 15:05:00 GMT -5
An apology from loopdilou to Swamp for saying she's a 'waste of oxygen'. Oh yah.. that's definitely who I was referring to. So, sorry, Swamp ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I'll delete you as my fb friend later.. 'cause I never am friends with wastes of oxygen ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I'll grudgingly accept your apology. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by swasat on Aug 7, 2012 15:05:32 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all. He said he was sorry for his actions. That he is deeply ashamed of his behavior and is ready to accept time off the boards and as a mod if the board community thinks so. Does that satisfy you? No, he did not single out what he is apologizing for.
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Post by swamp on Aug 7, 2012 15:05:58 GMT -5
bump. grrr.
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Post by swasat on Aug 7, 2012 15:06:21 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all. He said he was sorry for his actions. That he is deeply ashamed of his behavior and is ready to accept time off the boards and as a mod if the board community thinks so. Does that satisfy you? No, he did not single out what he is apologizing for.
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swamp
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Post by swamp on Aug 7, 2012 15:06:26 GMT -5
bump again.
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Taxman10
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 7, 2012 15:06:40 GMT -5
As entertaining as this thread is, could we wrap it up folks? What are we asking for here? What's the end game? Do you guys want WWBG to come back, admit that he fucked up, and apologize? Do you want him stripped of his mod powers? What's the ask here? Removal as a mod. He already apologized. I think he should stay as a mod...he's one of the few who I don't think hates me... but I think Swamp should be added as a mod solely to moderate WWBG for a trial period...kinda like putting someone on probation. <<this post in no way suggests that I promote relations with underage girls>>
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 15:06:48 GMT -5
Such wonderful people. A respectful request was made and 3 people find it hilarious enough to joke about it.
And one of them I had some respect for.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Aug 7, 2012 15:06:57 GMT -5
I completely understand. I have had to apologize and restate what I meant on a number of occasions. Most people are understanding about that because they've all been there.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Aug 7, 2012 15:07:21 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all. He apologized in a PM to those who were actively debating the activity. This is why the thread should have been locked. He should have put his whole apology out there for every one to see because more than just the people debating were reading.
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 7, 2012 15:08:34 GMT -5
Such wonderful people. A respectful request was made and 3 people find it hilarious enough to joke about it. And one of them I had some respect for. Shocking that people would joke about a joke.... <<this post in no way suggests that I promote relations with underage girls>> ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 7, 2012 15:08:58 GMT -5
::A respectful request was made and 3 people find it hilarious enough to joke about it.::
I respectfully request you stop being offended by people not promoting relations with underage girls. Your offense at not promoting relations suggests to me you promote relations, which I find offensive. Thank you and God bless.
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Loopdilou
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 15:09:16 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all. He said he was sorry for his actions. That he is deeply ashamed of his behavior and is ready to accept time off the boards and as a mod if the board community thinks so. Does that satisfy you? No, he did not single out what he is apologizing for. Oh good, then he won't mind his mod rights getting stripped.
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Post by Driftr on Aug 7, 2012 15:09:32 GMT -5
Oh yah.. that's definitely who I was referring to. So, sorry, Swamp ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I'll delete you as my fb friend later.. 'cause I never am friends with wastes of oxygen ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I'll grudgingly accept your apology. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) It's nice to see you two getting along.
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Post by midjd on Aug 7, 2012 15:10:13 GMT -5
I like WWBG, and think most of his posts are very thoughtful (although his view of women turns my stomach at times). I'm very sad this whole situation happened.
But I think if it will leave a bad taste in others' mouths if he remains a mod (and this seems to be the case) removal or suspension of his mod privileges should be considered.
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Post by Loopdilou on Aug 7, 2012 15:10:23 GMT -5
And now 4 people find it acceptable to joke about statutory rape. Anyone else?
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Post by Driftr on Aug 7, 2012 15:10:37 GMT -5
I promote relations with underage kittens - Colleenz YM crazy cat lady I hope you're aware that there's a 33% chance you just lost the respect of loopdilou. Hope it was worth it.
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Post by swasat on Aug 7, 2012 15:10:46 GMT -5
I guess I missed his apology. I'm asking what he apologized for. Is it for having a controversial opinion or abusing his powers as a mod. If he apologized to a certain set of people for his opinion, that is totally different than him understanding why editing other people's post is wrong, and vice-versa. I know what I think he did wrong. But he, like the rest of the mods here, might think he was perfectly entitled to do that, and that isn't a problem at all. He apologized in a PM to those who were actively debating the activity. This is why the thread should have been locked. He should have put his whole apology out there for every one to see because more than just the people debating were reading. WTF? notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=25199&page=1There is his public apology. Read it people!!!! His PMs might have been more apologetic, but he is quite sincere here.
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 7, 2012 15:10:53 GMT -5
He said he was sorry for his actions. That he is deeply ashamed of his behavior and is ready to accept time off the boards and as a mod if the board community thinks so. Does that satisfy you? No, he did not single out what he is apologizing for. Oh good, then he won't mind his mod rights getting stripped. can't they just be taken away? does he have to be stripped?? i find stripping in all forms to be offensive language <<this post in no way suggests that I promote relations with underage girls>>
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Post by Opti on Aug 7, 2012 15:11:21 GMT -5
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Post by Miss Tequila on Aug 7, 2012 15:11:36 GMT -5
"And now 4 people find it acceptable to joke about statutory rape. Anyone else? " Does it still count as statory rape if she was drunk??? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Taxman10 on Aug 7, 2012 15:11:47 GMT -5
I promote relations with underage kittens - Colleenz YM crazy cat lady I hope you're aware that there's a 33% chance you just lost the respect of loopdilou. Hope it was worth it. I'm pretty sure you and Colleenz are safe...I'm the one she lost respect for ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) <<this post in no way suggests that I promote relations with underage girls>>
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Post by Colleenz on Aug 7, 2012 15:11:49 GMT -5
I just joked to offend Taxman ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Seriously though, anything to derail this train wreck of a thread before Moon decides to pull the plug on this board.
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Post by swasat on Aug 7, 2012 15:11:47 GMT -5
He said he was sorry for his actions. That he is deeply ashamed of his behavior and is ready to accept time off the boards and as a mod if the board community thinks so. Does that satisfy you? No, he did not single out what he is apologizing for. Oh good, then he won't mind his mod rights getting stripped. I am sure HE won't mind his mod privileges gone. But there are several posters here who would mind.
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