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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 24, 2012 13:59:03 GMT -5
Its about the parents that let the game become the babysitter and their child sits there 4 0r 5 hours a day and longer on weekends. Seriously I've seen thisThat's still not a problem with the game, that is a parenting problem. There is this invention called a plug, you yank it out of the wall and the game system shuts down. Ta da. You can also threaten to run their PS3 over with your car, I've found that gets DH's attention. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by PK Bucko on Jul 24, 2012 14:13:32 GMT -5
Neither is ice cream, twinkies, soda, fast food, car exhaust, factory exhaust, hydraulic fracking chemicals getting into water, etc., etc., etc. Go ban all that crap, then we'll talk about video games. Twinkies.... ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/sick.png)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 14:18:57 GMT -5
Its about the parents that let the game become the babysitter and their child sits there 4 0r 5 hours a day and longer on weekends. Seriously I've seen thisThat's still not a problem with the game, that is a parenting problem. There is this invention called a plug, you yank it out of the wall and the game system shuts down. Ta da. You can also threaten to run their PS3 over with your car, I've found that gets DH's attention. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Its a parenting issue for sure.
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Post by PK Bucko on Jul 24, 2012 14:20:20 GMT -5
Nice. That'll definitely work. You could always put a slice of pizza in the thing too and see what happens.
Either way. Problem solved.
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Post by PK Bucko on Jul 24, 2012 14:21:14 GMT -5
Its about the parents that let the game become the babysitter and their child sits there 4 0r 5 hours a day and longer on weekends. Seriously I've seen thisThat's still not a problem with the game, that is a parenting problem. There is this invention called a plug, you yank it out of the wall and the game system shuts down. Ta da. You can also threaten to run their PS3 over with your car, I've found that gets DH's attention. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Its a parenting issue for sure. Zackly.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 24, 2012 14:22:30 GMT -5
I hear ya, but I loved those things as a kid. Which I guess proves that maturing as a person is optional, but your taste buds will do it regardless.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jul 24, 2012 14:27:28 GMT -5
How about if the game normalised violence against women? Would you let your kids play it then?.....(A game has been disallowed in the US for this reason.) What about if it contained race hate...or sexual violence?.... (which some of them already do) What it were blasphemous... Satanic.....or contained a lot of nudity There is a huge market for this stuff so someone must be enjoying it. I appreciate you have a certificate system, as we do, but why is it OK to nomalise, by way of virtual reality in peoples homes.... something that is culturally unacceptable. Here's a list...only wiki I'm afraid.... but it gives an idea of the games which are banned in various countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_gamesThe game designers are responding to market forces. They would make more money if they toned it down a bit. Not before time imo.....Some of these products are gruesome.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 24, 2012 14:38:58 GMT -5
It depends on the game, how it was portrayed, and the ages of my kids. In terms of containing race hate, sexual violence, violence against women, and similar things, have you watched the new lately? That stuff is a part of our society, even though we find it abhorrent. I have two daughters, at some point I owe it to them to explain that they need to be aware of this kind of thing. There are people out there that they may or may not run into over the course of their lives who will hate them for their skin color, their genitalia, and whatnot. Being exposed to these idea in a fictional setting might get more kids to think about these issues in real life.
Blasphemy and Satanic stuff would go in a different category for me since I'm not religious to begin with. I see no problem with a game being set in a world where god didn't exist or whatever. That's a different issue for folks that are raising their kids in a particular religion.
I keep coming back to the idea that this stuff is on the parent, not society. It's not your job to monitor the media that my kids have access too. Media is a free flow of ideas within society. I don't want the rest of you censoring the ideas my children are exposed too. If you have issue with what I allow as a parent, so be it, you can't please everyone, but at the end of the day it's none of your business unless I'm breaking the law.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 14:41:19 GMT -5
There is a market for just about anything....
That doesnt mean I want to censor what "can" be sold
Every parent must make decisions on what they will allow their children to watch on tv, or play on their machines
It is just like the happy meal argument....i dont want to ban happy meals because a few idiotic parents cant make healthy decisions for their own damn kids
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 24, 2012 14:57:52 GMT -5
You could always put a slice of pizza in the thing too and see what happens.Nah, might possibly be salvaged. Stick a magent in there. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) As for the questions about games I suggest if you are willing looking up a game called Manhunt which DH has played. Even he admitted it was disturbing (he stil completed it though). Depending on her age no I am not going to let my kid play it because it has mature subject matter. I would not let her play that game until I felt that she is mature enough to handle the content. DH has played at least one game that has everything you have listed at some point or another. I don't go by a single theme we discuss each game on an individual basis. I have no problems with Resident Evil, I have a huge problem with Silent Hill evne though they are the same genre. Not every game in every genre is created equal. It is MY job to screen games and decide which ones will be played in my house, not yours, not the governments. I do not want the government telling me what I can and cannot buy because they think I can't handle the content or I am incapable of juding the content for my kid. That is dangerous territory. Stores certainly have hte right to decide what they will sell and we have a right to decide what we will export, but I refuse to have the government monitor and decide which perfectly legal items I purchase.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Jul 24, 2012 15:01:17 GMT -5
This has recently been said to me by a parent of an 11 year old who was being overtly sexual in the classroom and disrespectful to female classmates. Turns out the boy was allowed to watch adult films with his dad. There is no law against it....but the rest of the parents were extremely angry that their children were being exposed, by way of proxy, to something that they felt was inappropriate. We have some autonomy as to what we allow our children to watch.....but there is a bigger responsibility to society to make sure our kids can fit in.
What do we do with all the parents who don't act responsibly?
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 24, 2012 15:01:21 GMT -5
How about if the game normalised violence against women? Would you let your kids play it then?.....(A game has been disallowed in the US for this reason.) What about if it contained race hate...or sexual violence?.... (which some of them already do) What it were blasphemous... Satanic.....or contained a lot of nudity There is a huge market for this stuff so someone must be enjoying it. I appreciate you have a certificate system, as we do, but why is it OK to nomalise, by way of virtual reality in peoples homes.... something that is culturally unacceptable. Here's a list...only wiki I'm afraid.... but it gives an idea of the games which are banned in various countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_gamesThe game designers are responding to market forces. They would make more money if they toned it down a bit. Not before time imo.....Some of these products are gruesome. Read through the list and you'll see why people have issue with censorship. The countries which censor have things like "excessive violence" then "homosexuality" then Germany bans games because it references Nazis, Arabs banning games because they think it portrays them poorly. The biggest argument against censorship is the slippery slope it causes. Other reasons for banning games on this list: Game recognizes the country of Tibet as independent Religious sensitivity avoiding diplomatic tensions And while some of the games banned are on the "realistic" front, many/most are sci-fi in nature and have limited if any "realism" until the zombie apocalypse hits.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 24, 2012 15:04:14 GMT -5
I'll be prepared, I've watched DH play Resident Evil more times than I like to admit. We have some autonomy as to what we allow our children to watch.....but there is a bigger responsibility to society to make sure our kids can fit inSure there is, but it is not your right to determine that for me. Your kid may be doing/watching something else that I completely disapprove of but would you want me coming into your home and telling you don't raise your kid that way because I don't approve? There are bad apples/kooks in every bunch. I disagree with nannying everybody based on that.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 24, 2012 15:35:04 GMT -5
Nothing you can do, unless they're breaking the law.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 24, 2012 16:06:34 GMT -5
This has recently been said to me by a parent of an 11 year old who was being overtly sexual in the classroom and disrespectful to female classmates. Turns out the boy was allowed to watch adult films with his dad. There is no law against it....but the rest of the parents were extremely angry that their children were being exposed, by way of proxy, to something that they felt was inappropriate. We have some autonomy as to what we allow our children to watch.....but there is a bigger responsibility to society to make sure our kids can fit in. What do we do with all the parents who don't act responsibly? In this case, I suggest parent night and let the dads of the kid's classmates know which one the skeevy father is. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 17:39:53 GMT -5
Neither is ice cream, twinkies, soda, fast food, car exhaust, factory exhaust, hydraulic fracking chemicals getting into water, etc., etc., etc. Go ban all that crap, then we'll talk about video games. watch it boy, that ice cream supports our family. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) (monetarily speaking in my case)
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 17:41:57 GMT -5
This has recently been said to me by a parent of an 11 year old who was being overtly sexual in the classroom and disrespectful to female classmates. Turns out the boy was allowed to watch adult films with his dad. There is no law against it....but the rest of the parents were extremely angry that their children were being exposed, by way of proxy, to something that they felt was inappropriate. We have some autonomy as to what we allow our children to watch.....but there is a bigger responsibility to society to make sure our kids can fit in. What do we do with all the parents who don't act responsibly? In this case, I suggest parent night and let the dads of the kid's classmates know which one the skeevy father is. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Good idea they can keep their kids away from the pervert. Who wants to allow their children over a house where they will be watching porn? OMG I'm not even going to get into what this is one of the top signs of. I do hope the school called the state for the safety of the child. . . . but knowing how over worked the social services is, it will most likely go unchecked.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 24, 2012 17:47:35 GMT -5
How many people do you think the video game industry supports? I'm guessing quite a few.
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Post by Colleenz on Jul 24, 2012 19:22:33 GMT -5
How can I make a poll here?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 24, 2012 20:40:02 GMT -5
We have poll creation disabled for regular members. For... um... good reasons... that... presently... escape my memory? ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/actnatural.png) PM an EE mod with the poll question and answers, and they'll set it up for you. Tell 'em Virgil sent you. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jul 24, 2012 20:42:19 GMT -5
LOL - or you could PM Virgil !! ;D
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 24, 2012 20:50:16 GMT -5
The other day I saw Lassie pottering about the office, sighing sadly to herself "I wish somebody would ask me to set up a poll. Why won't somebody just ask?" Colleenz, I believe it is your obligation to help Lassie out of the doldrums by PMing her your poll specs. It'll brighten her life right up. It's simply the right thing to do. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/angel2.png)
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Post by Sammy on Jul 24, 2012 21:37:46 GMT -5
There first should be a poll to find out if people will be willing to take a poll.... a poll about a poll. ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/lightbulb.gif)
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 22:49:16 GMT -5
How many people do you think the video game industry supports? I'm guessing quite a few. I'm guessing you are correct on that. I was joking btw.
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Post by beags on Jul 24, 2012 22:50:44 GMT -5
There first should be a poll to find out if people will be willing to take a poll.... a poll about a poll. ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/lightbulb.gif) I do believe that some people love taking polls . . so a poll about taking a poll would still get results. Such as Do you hate answering these poll questions? The funny part is . . . there will be a percentage for yes . . . so people who state they hate taking them . . . still do it.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 25, 2012 1:44:00 GMT -5
I know you were. Just pointing it out. While certain folks may have their reasons for wanting to ban these games, keep in mind we're talking a multi-billion dollar industry that's supporting a lot of families in an environment where jobs aren't exactly plentiful. And we're only talking about this right now because we're guessing that the Aurora shooter was a gamer, which we don't even know at this point.
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Post by Colleenz on Jul 25, 2012 7:41:27 GMT -5
Can someone start a poll to see who is winning - Dark or Firebird?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 25, 2012 10:48:54 GMT -5
In this case, I suggest parent night and let the dads of the kid's classmates know which one the skeevy father is. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Good idea they can keep their kids away from the pervert. Who wants to allow their children over a house where they will be watching porn? OMG I'm not even going to get into what this is one of the top signs of. I do hope the school called the state for the safety of the child. . . . but knowing how over worked the social services is, it will most likely go unchecked. I was thinking more of a "group discussion" with said dad. You're much nicer than me. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jul 25, 2012 10:54:49 GMT -5
LOL!
No point really. You guys seem like pretty reasonable people so I doubt any of you would be dumb enough to vote against a hormonal pregnant woman. Except maybe Hoops just to be contrary.
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Post by Reckless Roselia on Jul 25, 2012 11:39:17 GMT -5
How about if the game normalised violence against women? Would you let your kids play it then?.....(A game has been disallowed in the US for this reason.) What about if it contained race hate...or sexual violence?.... (which some of them already do) What it were blasphemous... Satanic.....or contained a lot of nudity There is a huge market for this stuff so someone must be enjoying it. I appreciate you have a certificate system, as we do, but why is it OK to nomalise, by way of virtual reality in peoples homes.... something that is culturally unacceptable. Here's a list...only wiki I'm afraid.... but it gives an idea of the games which are banned in various countries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_gamesThe game designers are responding to market forces. They would make more money if they toned it down a bit. Not before time imo.....Some of these products are gruesome. ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/thumbsup.png)
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