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Post by 973beachbum on Jul 12, 2012 16:58:18 GMT -5
According to this even the man who originally owned the dog seems to have found out that she had tried to find it's owner. In my mind he sounds like a jerk.
She could have solved it herself though. If she had after those months taken the dog in and gotten it micro chipped herself, since it wasn't by him. I think that would have been it as far as proving ownership.
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Post by Angel! on Jul 12, 2012 16:59:22 GMT -5
All coppping that attitide will accomplish is to annoy people to the point that they will just call the pound and have the dog held for 7 days before putting it to sleep. If having more dogs killed is your intent then congratulations because it will work beutifully. Your pound puts lost animals to sleep automatically? How sad. Here they go up for adoption if they are adoptable. Both my dogs were lost & found pups that no one ever claimed.
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 12, 2012 17:02:12 GMT -5
You don't know that they didn't try. Everyone is assuming that they didn't because the person who lost the dog says he didn't find him so that means they must not have. So it was 14 months instead of 24. My animal control will still have long since thrown out the notebook that they use to write these things in. All coppping that attitide will accomplish is to annoy people to the point that they will just call the pound and have the dog held for 7 days before putting it to sleep. If having more dogs killed is your intent then congratulations because it will work beutifully. No I'm not assuming she made no effort because he said so. But she did not offer any proof that she did., nor could animal services find any proof. The local shelters all have on line "found" reports as well as searchable databases of lost pets. It's not a matter of writing it down in a book. Some counties even require you to take them to the shelter- they make the report and will foster the dog to you.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 12, 2012 17:05:41 GMT -5
I can't remember what I did last week, let alone a year ago. I think he is going to have a hard time getting the dog back, even IF it is his.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 12, 2012 17:06:11 GMT -5
I think they should let the dog decide who he wants to live with. Put the dog in the center of them both facing away from them and let him walk up to who he wants. They should not be allowed to coax or sway his mind. ;D
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 12, 2012 17:06:54 GMT -5
She could have solved it herself though. If she had after those months taken the dog in and gotten it micro chipped herself, since it wasn't by him. I think that would have been it as far as proving ownership. Just because she assumed- doesn't make it so. But they were both idiots for not chipping a husky (or most any dog). I think it will probably come down to when she had the dog liscensed as hers. If she did it shorly after finding the dog, I think they'll make her turn it over. Multhomah county is pretty clear on their 180 day law.
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Post by 973beachbum on Jul 12, 2012 17:11:48 GMT -5
All coppping that attitide will accomplish is to annoy people to the point that they will just call the pound and have the dog held for 7 days before putting it to sleep. If having more dogs killed is your intent then congratulations because it will work beutifully. Your pound puts lost animals to sleep automatically? How sad. Here they go up for adoption if they are adoptable. Both my dogs were lost & found pups that no one ever claimed. They do try and put dogs up for adoption. We actually have one that does a great job most of the year. It is actually been listed as no kill even thought it will if it has to. this time a year it is tourist season. For some reason people bring their pets on vacation and seem to lose them, a lot! they get about 60 stray dogs a day, at each of the shelters. Most of the time they don't have room to hold them for the 7 days required in a normal run. The dogs end up boarded in some strange places because they legally have to hold them but they can only hold so many at a time. It can become an impossible number of dogs, to try and board, really quickly. And that number doesn't include trying to have dogs up for adoption also.
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Post by 973beachbum on Jul 12, 2012 17:13:20 GMT -5
You don't know that they didn't try. Everyone is assuming that they didn't because the person who lost the dog says he didn't find him so that means they must not have. So it was 14 months instead of 24. My animal control will still have long since thrown out the notebook that they use to write these things in. All coppping that attitide will accomplish is to annoy people to the point that they will just call the pound and have the dog held for 7 days before putting it to sleep. If having more dogs killed is your intent then congratulations because it will work beutifully. No I'm not assuming she made no effort because he said so. But she did not offer any proof that she did., nor could animal services find any proof. The local shelters all have on line "found" reports as well as searchable databases of lost pets. It's not a matter of writing it down in a book. Some counties even require you to take them to the shelter- they make the report and will foster the dog to you. My comment wasnt aimed at you, sorry. It was about WWBG's comment.
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Post by Angel! on Jul 12, 2012 17:41:41 GMT -5
Your pound puts lost animals to sleep automatically? How sad. Here they go up for adoption if they are adoptable. Both my dogs were lost & found pups that no one ever claimed. They do try and put dogs up for adoption. We actually have one that does a great job most of the year. It is actually been listed as no kill even thought it will if it has to. this time a year it is tourist season. For some reason people bring their pets on vacation and seem to lose them, a lot! they get about 60 stray dogs a day, at each of the shelters. Most of the time they don't have room to hold them for the 7 days required in a normal run. The dogs end up boarded in some strange places because they legally have to hold them but they can only hold so many at a time. It can become an impossible number of dogs, to try and board, really quickly. And that number doesn't include trying to have dogs up for adoption also. Sad. Although, I think if the dog is collarless it is best to bring it to a shelter. Ours allows you to put a hold on dogs so that you can get the dog if it is not claimed. But, realistically the best chance an owner has a finding it's pet is for it to be at a shelter. I'd be down at the shelter every day & checking their website if my dogs ever went missing for an extended period of time - like long enough that I give up driving around to find them, which I have done for hours before, so I don't give up easy.
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 12, 2012 22:17:04 GMT -5
There's a very simple way to get a dog if you find one. You turn it into the proper officials, that dog goes to a shelter where someone can search for it for a reasonable amount of time, and if it goes up for adoption you adopt it.
The process is not I found it so I get to keep it.
There's a significant difference between "I should get to keep the dog now because I went through the proper steps to become the dogs owner" and "I found it, now it's mine".
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 7:57:33 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see what the decree is.
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Post by shanendoah on Jul 13, 2012 12:25:18 GMT -5
What the original owner found out is that she told a different newspaper that she went door to door to find the dog's owner, not that she actually did so.
Again, I think it all comes down to the fact that she refused to participate in the investigation being done by the legally appointed authority. If she had been willing to sit down with that person and say "I did this and this and this", then I'd believe her story more. Now, maybe I'm wrong, but my guess is, the lawyer she retained told her not to participate in the investigation because she had lied about what she did, and he didn't think it was a good idea for her to lie "officially". Instead, they waited until the judgement was handed down, and then filed a lawsuit that allows them to skip over her actions (or lack thereof) last year when she found the dog.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2012 13:16:17 GMT -5
I also can't remember what I did last week - but I think I would have remembered going door to door, putting up "found dog" posters and calling the pound.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 13:18:16 GMT -5
But to remember where you posted them and what animal shelter you called could be a stretch.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2012 13:28:22 GMT -5
The real problem is that she didn't move out of her parents house and away from the area. Even if she had moved just a few miles away, the liklihood of running into the old owner while the dog is with you is pretty rare. Plus, she is 20 - time for her to fly the coop.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 13:46:23 GMT -5
You're saying that why?
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2012 13:53:53 GMT -5
So this can be moved to YM.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 13:54:46 GMT -5
;D. Well, if it is his dog, she's going to wish she had moved.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2012 13:55:42 GMT -5
Word to the wise - if you find a dog and fall in love - move to the next town over!
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2012 13:56:26 GMT -5
By the way - if his 8 year old kids aren't over a dog that they haven't seen in over a year...that family needs grief counseling.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 14:04:02 GMT -5
No kidding.
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Post by kdamron on Jul 13, 2012 14:11:06 GMT -5
agile: I don't know what part of the country you're in, but unless you do AKC agility and need a papered dog, around here it's very easy to find an Aussie or BC mix in the shelters. Our boy was purebred and he came from a shelter. We were there when he was being surrendered. The older, upper middle class couple were surrendering him because, at 9 months old, he had "too much energy when they got home at the end of the day and let him out of his crate". Seriously. I heard her say it. I even still have the adoption papers (from 12 years ago) with that written on it. This drives me crazy - don't get a dog without knowing the breed. We have a Border Collie and yes, she's crazy active but we love her dearly and would never surrender her. She's part of the family.
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 14:21:31 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 13, 2012 15:03:59 GMT -5
By the way - if his 8 year old kids aren't over a dog that they haven't seen in over a year...that family needs grief counseling. Yes, but imagine telling your kids- "Dog jumped fence and ran away. Sorry he's gone for ever." "Hey guess what I saw our dog today. Lady says she'll give him back." "Oh, now she won't." The girl did move with her dog. She's a college student 75 miles away. She was at home visiting her family and stopped for coffee, which is where the guy happened to be. As for the fliers- in that area the lost and found posters are probably still hanging on the telephone poles. ;D
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 15:37:41 GMT -5
It's been a year, you didn't get another dog? Are your kids seriously still grieving? At that age?
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 13, 2012 15:53:57 GMT -5
It's been a year, you didn't get another dog? Are your kids seriously still grieving? At that age? I didn't say they would still be greiving. But they would be excited about finding the dog.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on Jul 13, 2012 16:02:25 GMT -5
It's been a year, you didn't get another dog? Are your kids seriously still grieving? At that age? Yes. I still grieve/miss my animals I had as a young kid and adult. The love for them never stops and I still miss the extra special ones. Some of us love our pets as some of you do your own family/kids. Some of us love our pets more. Both of my parents were serious animal lovers so I got it honestly and two-fold!
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Post by zibazinski on Jul 13, 2012 16:23:53 GMT -5
But he couldn't even be sure it was his dog. Sounds like he put the cart before the horse.
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Post by Abby Normal on Jul 13, 2012 16:31:05 GMT -5
But he couldn't even be sure it was his dog. Sounds like he put the cart before the horse. He called the dogs name and the dog jumped out of the car he was in. While alot of friendly dogs will lick your face, a well trained dog, which you would assume service dog is, would not respond to a name that is not theirs.
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