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[midwesterner (banned)]

Stock Pumper's Manual investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=5014&mid=2347845&pt=msg How to recognize Stock Pumpers on Message boards, newsgroups and in chat rooms A counter discussion to the “Paid Basher’s Manual” found on

LEARNING is a process and an evolution. Learning is not all fluff. Learning is a process of awareness and unfolding development; one must be willing to work at it though. A year ago when I asked broker friends of mine if the internet message boards will have any affect on a stock. They ALL laughed at me and said those idiots having an affect on a stock! A truth: IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO INFORM PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK. But once they’ve committed their money to a stock, it is much easier to keep them holding on to a losing position than it is to scare them away. Its human nature to hate to lose, and if you sell a stock at a loss, you are admitting that you made a mistake when you bought it.. Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and ""shorts & longs" (some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit.

Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about “the next big move”, claims of insider information, or justification for a future by out. Or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of pumpers", or even 1 main “shepherd” leading his flock of “sheep”… all are posting the same false information about the news that is about to be released. What do you think they will do ?Or It's easier to sit on (or hold) a stock than it is to admit that one has made a mistake when they purchased it in the first place – especially at a loss! THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF PUMPERS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON. They want the stock to go up, but don’t believe that it can under its own power! Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and to keep others holding their positions which they hope will minimize the drop in the stock price.

Lesson 1: Remember, PUMPERS NEVER PUMP A GOOD STOCK. Lesson 2: PUMPERS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. Lesson 3: PUMPERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY IF THE STOCK PRICE GOES UP, BUT MAY GO SILENT ON DAYS WHEN THE PRICE PULLS BACK. Lesson 4: PUMPERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Lesson 5: The pumpers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. Lesson 6: The pumpers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. Lesson 7: Pumpers play on your patience. Lesson 8: HOLD THE PRICE UP. Lesson 9: PUMPERS WILL TRY TO CREATE DOUBT AND GET YOU TO RESEARCH ITEMS THAT THEY KNOW WILL LEAD TO THE CREATION OF DOUBT IN YOU AND IN OTHER STOCKHOLDERS.

A PUMPER’S HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes gain at your expense! Do not underestimate a pumpers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those who make an organized plan to profit at your expense!

PUMPERS DO THE FOLLOWING: 1. Be anonymous 2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions. 3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your pumping routine. 4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you. 5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases. 6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion. 7. Do not start with an all out pump of the stock. Build to it. 8. Identify your foes (bashers) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead. Ideally, you will become the board’s guru. 9. Only pump until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way. 10. Give the appearance of being open minded. 11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength. 12. Write headlines in with catchy statements. 13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality. 14. Don't worry about being labeled a "pumper". Newbies won't know your history, and you are supporting their choice to purchase the stock in the first place. 15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return later unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers. 16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the drop. Not to make the company blast off; be subtle and consistent. 17. Kill the fears of losses, promote the company and the stock. 18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts. THAT CAN BE PROVEN, NAME CALLING AND PROFANITY AGAINST SHORTS IS ENCOURAGED. 20. Tell people that you have called the company. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call to verify you can always find something that is missing from their response. 21. Encourage people to take the companies word for everything. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness. 22. If the companies history/PR's are positive constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts. 23. If the price falls blame it on temporary outside influences, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock / company itself. 24. If other posters share your thoughts, play on that and share theirs too. 25. Always cite high volume, even when it's not. 26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board. 27. Bait the bashers with personal attacks putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle." 28. Bash other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one you’re pumping. 30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.

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[midwesterner (banned)]

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GRADE YOUR FAVORITE PUMPER:

Advanced Pumper:
Will join the message board early and actually "bash" the stock with negatives; this pumper is very intelligent, has the facts of the company, actually helps shorts with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of the bears. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This pumper will then start using all the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe that a contrary view is needed but this person is out to profit at your expense\ and does it by deception and creates hope after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever pumper and the hardest to spot.

Grade A Pumper:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all negative posts with a positive side. Never responds to being called a pumper, never posts on another board. Can spend up to hours each week pumping a stock.

Grade B Pumper:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the negative poster into confidence, never posts on another board; spends hours each week.

Grade C Pumper:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when pumper’s rules say not to get excited; spends several hours each week.

Grade D Pumper:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a positive statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock.

Grade D Pumper: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "rocks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

NEVER ENGAGE A STOCK PUMPER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE PUMPER'S AID!

Well, well, well. Let's see what the paid pumpers have to say about this one?? We are waiting.

[Virgil Showlion]

Mid. This is now "your" thread to bash the market bulls.

I will summarily delete any other threads that you create on the topic, and I will ban you for three days.

Everyone else, if you don't like what Mid has to say, I advise you to stay away from this thread. By this evening, I will be unveiling a new board feature that will hopefully stop this fighting nonsense for good.

- Virgil (Mod)

[decoy409]

Why this is a great idea! Nothing like sharing hey friends!

[verrip1]

Please let it be an ignore function.

[rovo]

Virgil: By this evening, I will be unveiling a new board feature that will hopefully stop this fighting nonsense for good.

I think the new feature is Virgil is going to ban everyone.

[moon/Laura]

Jan 24, 2011 21:57:50 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

Please let it be an ignore function.

i think if it's that, only the mods should get them.

[traelin0]

Virgil, I am very disappointed in you, my fellow engineer. It should be "feature", not feature.

I wait with baited breath, my pulse increasing ever so slightly as you unveil the new "feature".

[kman]

Steel cage match? ...ThunderDome?

[traelin0]

[traelin0]

www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2442592537/

[midwesterner (banned)]

Government Targets American Bloggers As Enemy Propagandists

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/171006enemypropagandists.htm

As Raw Story reports, CENTCOM announced earlier this year that a team of employees would be "[engaging] bloggers who are posting inaccurate or untrue information, as well as bloggers who are posting incomplete information."

So when you're wasting your time arguing the finer points of the collapse of Building 7 or the quagmire in Iraq with someone who seems unable to grasp basic principles, your foe could well be sat behind a plush U.S. government desk in a uniform.

CENTCOM is infiltrating blogs and message boards to ensure people, "have the opportunity to read positive stories,"presumably about how Iraq is a wonderful liberated democracy and the war on terror really is about protecting Americans.

The White House has made it perfectly clear that it will target American citizens for propagating information harmful to the interests of the U.S. government and classify them as enemy combatants. This is codified in sub-section 27 of section 950v. of the Military Commissions Act of 2006.

Bush's own strategy document for "winning the war on terror" identifies "conspiracy theorists," meaning anyone who exposes government corruption and lies about major domestic and world events, as "terrorists recruiters," and vows to eliminate their influence in society.

In a speech given Monday, Homeland Security director Michael Chertoff identified the web as a "terror training camp," through which "disaffected people living in the United States" are developing "radical ideologies and potentially violent skills."

Chertoff has pledged to dispatch Homeland Security agents to local police departments in order to aid in the apprehension of domestic terrorists who use the Internet as a political tool.

[kman]

Holy crap...Mid. Your sitting at a desk in uniform?

[dumdeedoe]

OK so apply the same rules to the D@G threads. Just omit pumpers and replace it with dumpers, and replace bad stocks with gold.......

Hum..... I wonder how many bills they pull week....

[dumdeedoe]

And I thought destablization was a Illuminutty plan? So why would they try to arrest you? Shouldn't they give u peanuts?

[neohguy]

You guys are funny. You do realize that the gold pumpers sound exactly the same as the stock pumpers.

[z]

I'm a double agent. I pretend to be a stock pumper to infiltrate their lair and spy on them but secretly I work for the gold pumpers...I guess that makes me a double pumper.

[midwesterner (banned)]

You guys are funny. You do realize that the gold pumpers sound exactly the same as the stock pumpers.

It is quite funny, we are pumping real money. Strange concept for those that have zero understanding of the markets, or how gold has been used as currency for thousands of years until your lovely Nixon took us off gold standard, inflation skyrocketed, asset bubbles grew out of control, and 40 years of a small time frame of fiat money experiment has devalued our dollar exponentially.

Yep, we sure as heck pump the use and return to sound money. Funny thing is you boys don't get that it's money, and think its some ancient relic. We were still using gold standard when we sent a man to the moon, so can't be that technologically obsolete as you market pumpers claim.

We pump real money, cause there is currency crisis. Gold is money, and it's not debt note currency. Do you know what a debt note is? Can you answer how money is created using the federal reserve banking system, and how it's unbacked by anything but pure trust in a banks debt issued by the banks, for profit for the banking cartel? Can you explain the massive inflation that has started since Nixon took us off the Gold standard? Do you have rational explanation how the stock market has exploded after this occurrence? Can you explain how cost of living expensive have gone sky high? Can you explain why it takes almost now 3 members of a family to work to support a family as it did 20 years ago? Can you explain how before going off the gold standard you could put money in a CD or savings account at a bank and get a decent return, enough to save for retirement, and was considered a safe place for your money? Can you explain how after the Gold standard was done away with the prices of assets skyrocketed in 40 years? Can you explain why everyone has be horse feed the lies that the stock market, IRA's, 401k's and dollar cost averaging has been taught in all finance schools since then, and is now standard practice of putting ones retirement in a fluctuation market, that increases in value from inflationary pressure? How we have been convinced that stock market 401k's are the best way and in most all cases only way to save for retirement, and sold by financial talking heads in the media and business world?

Sounds like a disaster is around the corner. Funny how baby boomers are starting to need that money for retirement, hope they have something to show for all that hard earned currency they have set aside tirelessly year after year to retire on, in which paid pumpers, and Wall St. have come to enjoy the extra money to expand mega corporations and revenues enough dominate markets with Monopolies. Oh sorry, we don't call them that anymore, that's common practice. We have choice. McDonalds or Burger King.

Look around you, I see more mega corporations controlling the major goods and services in this nation that not, and consolidating and buying out all competition. Competition is a dirty word to elites and banking/Wall St. big wigs.

What ever happened to anti trust laws!!!

[decoy409]

Pumpers go to whatever they feel deemed. Frank the Inhaler MADE SEVERAL BODILY THREATS, twords me for speaking about the news.

Those have been recorded and registered.

Once he threatened to have me dragged down the bridge by some of his friends out his way.

On another occasion when discussing the news he made another threat that somebody should stuff something down my throat so I would shut up.

These are reasons why I don't like the punk. He is good at talking and selling crap insurance and all the while is a Paid Poster/Pumper that has been given special rights as you see here onm this board. This is no different than the MSN MT board.
I don't care but as Example The DECOY 409 Post was the first one up on the list, but the baby kicked and screamed and even pissed it's pants when that happened. BINGO! The PAID PUMPER POSTER went to the top.

[decoy409]

Pumpers go to whatever they feel deemed. Frank the Inhaler MADE SEVERAL BODILY THREATS, twords me for speaking about the news.

Those have been recorded and registered.

Once he threatened to have me dragged down the bridge by some of his friends out his way.

On another occasion when discussing the news he made another threat that somebody should stuff something down my throat so I would shut up.

These are reasons why I don't like the punk. He is good at talking and selling crap insurance and all the while is a Paid Poster/Pumper that has been given special rights as you see here onm this board. This is no different than the MSN MT board.
I don't care but as Example The DECOY 409 Post was the first one up on the list, but the baby kicked and screamed and even pissed it's pants when that happened. BINGO! The PAID PUMPER POSTER went to the top.


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[kman]

Decoy is on auto Whine

[decoy409]

Hey it's 'The Boy' , yes send 'The Boy' to run the errands! Want a lollypop little feller'

[decoy409]

Why look at that! They have 'The Boy' running errands like mad since yesterday!

[kman]

Sure. I'll take one. An all day sucker like you must have plenty to spare.

[Virgil Showlion]

Another demonstration for verrip: As you can see, sir, "Hide Content" in this page effectively makes it kman-free.

But who wants to go kman-free?

[z]

mmmm, you're going to get marked as off topic wxyz...

I bet midwesterner is loving his newfound power...lol

[midwesterner (banned)]

I'm not going to censor your input, but if you post offtopic, and try to drag a good thread into the dirt, then it's off topic. Sorry, if it's not about the subject matter, then it will be marked as off topic.

It's fair, and people can still choose to see your posts. There are all still there.

[z]

You can't censor anyone silly. All anyone has to do is look back at the posts in this thread and see who you did and didn't flag as off topic. I guess lollipops and death threats are on topic...? lol

It's like anything else on the net...a useful tool if trolls get out of hand, but in the hands of a fool it's ripe for abuse.

[mikec]

I'm sure they will shut up when the DOW reaches a new all time high somtime next year or so...... AT least for an hour or 2..

[midwesterner (banned)]

I'm sure they will shut up when the DOW reaches a new all time high somtime next year or so...... AT least for an hour or 2..

Stunning display of ignorance!! We shall shut up once your inflated bailout propped up stock market goes up again? LMFAO!!!!! Now that's a very silly comment and shows this paid poster hasn't a clue as to what I speak of.

It's inflation silly, the higher it goes, the more I laugh at the fools!!! I swear we have some extremely brilliant people posting here.