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[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 5, 2011 1:16:40 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

I'm looking in my crystal ball Mid.. In your future I see you bouncing around a padded room ranting things like your statement above.

Point proven. You have nothing whatsoever but personal attacks. Nothing answered, nothing addressed just an attack on me. You just proven yourself as uncreditable as knowing what your talking about.

[frankq]

My name is Mid-Rainman. Definitely pumping.....definitely. Gotta go buy underwear at K-Mart now. I'm an excellent driver......Definitely.......

[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 5, 2011 8:48:47 GMT -5 frankq said:

My name is Mid-Rainman. Definitely pumping.....definitely. Gotta go buy underwear at K-Mart now. I'm an excellent driver......Definitely.......

15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return later unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.

27. Bait the bashers with personal attacks putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."

They want the stock to go up, but don’t believe that it can under its own power! Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and to keep others holding their positions which they hope will minimize the drop in the stock price.

Most important of all for the Q-TIP:

Grade D Pumper: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "rocks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.

Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=moneytalk&action=display&thread=2247&page=1#ixzz1D6RwiOks

[frankq]

Pumper....pumper.....pumper......pumper.....blah....blah.....blah.....what an ass.

[frankq]

The only idiot out here is you Mid, because you label anyone who does not subscribe to your dogma as stupid. You and Decoy would have been big in Salem a few hundred years ago. You two idiots are also the only ones out here who wont specify how you "invest", thereby making it impossible to track your "investments". Maximum mouth and zero verification, documentation and accountability are trademarks of the two of you. What do you do for a living Mid? I asked Decoy but never got an answer. Are you guys that scared?

[kman]

Mid is a total fraud Q. Total fake character.

[frankq]

kman,

Yeah, everyone knows. You would think that these posers would find another board where they can just bullshit each other and talk about world domination while they oil themselves up.

[kman]

634 posts x .35 = 221.9

You can't even live in your moms basement with those earnings. He must copy and paste his crap on other boards.

[domeasingold]

I'm convinced!

I just sold my house on Friday. Cashed out all my investments. Took the proceeds and converted them to Australian dollars. Bought a ticket on Quantas for next Tuesday one way to Surfers Paradise. Will scout out the location for living through my retirement years. That bad US government can't get me there. Let's see haw far will 175,000 X 1.014 =177450 take me. Living under a tarp on the beach, forever. Townhouse across from the beach.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Total fake character.

That makes sense. We are here to talk about and learn about investing, and Mid is mad that he lives in his mom's basement and has no money to invest!!! More k for that of course!

[verrip1]

Ahhhhh. This was a good investing week. Like I always say, trust in Wall Street and Wall Street will be good to you. I think I'll start collecting those Investment Banker bubble gum cards.

I did so well this week, I'm gonna take the missus out on the town and spend all that lucrative fiat currency that's now filling up my wallet.

Yes, life is good. Full steam ahead!!!!

[kman]

I love the smell of money in the morning.

Got any rookie cards?

[midwesterner (banned)]

Lot of smack talk lately. I sense desperation coming from the used car salesmen/paid pumpers.

Quite interesting the personal attacks are at a level I haven't seen since I first started posting on MSN board. I guess in pumper world it's perfectly normal for the stock market to keep going up and up and never stops going up. Amazing how this could be?

Oh course you that read and listen to these boards can see quite clearly they is no rational reasoning behind it except for inflationary pressures, PPT, QE, and intervention/manipulation.

Well, I suggest those of you on the fence and unsure of the situation start asking these pumpers hard questions, 9 times out of 10 you get nothing of substance. Attempts made to discredit those that oppose their pumping, have failed miserably. Thus the recent ramped up personal attacks at the Decoy and myself.

[verrip1]

Yes, the markets look good for tomorrow morning. Think I'll consider putting more cash into it tomorrow. Buy those big techs! Pumpa pumpa pumpa. Maybe materials! Pumpa pumpa pumpa. REITs are hot! Pumpa pumpa pumpa. Big divvies! Pumpa pumpa pumpa.

Ahhhhhhh. Mo money!

[midwesterner (banned)]

Watching stock pumpers, or those along for the ride thinking just like the housing bubble gotta get in is a daily laugh for me.

Sorta reminds me of when you go on vacation and they offer up some really good sales pitch for a timeshare. Sounds like a great deal, your happy on vacation in the moment, would love to come back, and just not thinking with your head screwed on straight. The sale pitch is so good, and you figure yeah what a great deal at the time. Once the fancy sales pitch is over and you have purchased you losing deal you at first havie buyer remorse, and realizing it might now have not been a wise move, but still defend your position. Denial sinks in and you enjoy your timeshare first few times, and try to convince yourself it was fabulous deal to vacation at same time each year, at same location, and if lucky can trade it, but knowing deep down you bought into a bad deal and not forced to vacation there instead of spending money on other destinations or time frames available.

It's not til later on in life does one realize more clearly how royally screwed you got in that deal, how the hotel makes money on one unit 52 weeks a year, you paid a huge premium on it, and average of $10,000 total. They hotel just made. $520,000 total value for that room they just sold you and 52 others. Say the place has 200 rooms. They have made a grand total of 104,000,000 whether you show up or not. That's above and beyond a profit, it's robbery.

So you think your making money in this pumped up derivatives filled marketplace, well pals, in most case you didn't get a beach side resort in France, you more than likely bought into a pyramid scheme full of derivatives and money pilled on fiat money thinking you got a good deal. Good luck, you'll need it.

You just bought into a timeshare, and not your stuck.

[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 7, 2011 10:50:46 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

Well there is one BIG difference between a time share and a select portfolio of stocks and funds as part of a comprehensive financial plan. Obviously, the answer is that the stocks and funds will make money for the holder over the long term while the time share will cost money or at best sit and stagnate,

Now if we compare stocks and metals, one of them does have long periods of time that it is stagnant. And...it is not the stocks.

Yes there is always risk in stocks, but there is far more risk in commodities, including metals. I had a relative that got heavily into metal in the last financial crises, 1975-1982. It did not end well for him over the long term. He lost a huge amount of potential gains by bailing out of his stocks and going hard into metals.

Metal is fine as a short term trade (a few years), however it is an investment for the traders and professionals. It should have a warning on it "professional, do not try this at home". The current gaggle of amateur metal holders are not going to end up making anything significant if they hold for the long term. Even over the short term most will lose money.

Now to be honest, most stock and fund investors will also not even get close to the averages. Virtually every study ever done shows that long term the average stock investor gets about a 3% return when the market averages are much higher. It is the same psychology and trading mentality that is driving the current gold mania that kills the average person trying to invest in stocks or funds.

For the average person the best bet would be to consistently, year in and year out, to invest in only three funds year after year and to hold for life. Those funds would be: 1/3 SP 500 index fund, 1/3 total stock market fund, 1/3 broad international index fund.

You are not listening to what I'm speaking. You use 30-40 year data to make your decisions. I'm telling you things are really changing, not same ole same ole. The whole game is changing. This is the whole point that goes right over all your heads.

I stand by my research and beliefs with backing it up over the past year. It's so blantantly obvious that many of you haven't a clue to our nations or western civs history. This is your downfall. Q-TIP just got a history lesson and lesson on inflation. He tried to boast, insult and challenge me on his own accord. Didn't work out so good for him. In fact he has made himself look such the fool I'd be surprised if he shows his face here again.

[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 7, 2011 11:11:21 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

The problems that the world is currently experiencing go back as far as the history of human beings. Tribal conflict, despotic leaders, war, greed, famine, etc, etc. Human nature and behavior is the same as it has always been.

Mid:

Exactly what "research" are you talking about?

Don't play stupid or good cop with me. I've repeated myself 1000 times, and now you want to hear it again. Sheesh. Fiat debt backed money, banking cartels, gold, ect, ect, ect.

Don't play me like you think your don't understand my posts, or what's going on. I understand your pumping game. Those that doubt this refer to my first post on this thread. It explains it all.

[usaone]

Bull market continues!!

[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 7, 2011 11:49:43 GMT -5 @wxyz said:

I have seen lots of anecdotal info in your posts and lots of opinion and blog information but never any hard "research". Financial opinion and blogs and media stories (speculation) are not fact or research. They are data to a certain degree but that is it.

Random data means nothing. Especially when the conclusions drawn from the data are not accurate in terms of the reality.

Random data, hahaha. Where's your personally written and formulated analysts and research papers. Where's the books you have written or thesis papers written for a doctorate in your higher education??

What a bunch of BS hogwash. I've presented charts, articles, papers, government bills and documents, independent research, commentary, financial statements, politics, history, fiat currency, banking cartels, world news, inflation, ect, ect, ect. My sources are vast, and cover all different places from wall st journal, to BBC to zero hedge. For you to say I'm uncreditable is a joke Mr. alphabet soup.

Pony up your credentials in order for us to take seriously what you post, which is basically nothing. Since this is your yardstick, then lets hear your background?

I've stated mine, and do have a degree.

[verrip1]

So you expect to get credibility by lying about having a college degree? Good luck with that, loser!

People on boards are judged not by the lies they make up about their props, but by the quality of what they post.

That is why you are considered worthless. A brainless c&p'er who tries to talk tough but has nothing to back it up.

[midwesterner (banned)]

Feb 7, 2011 14:13:43 GMT -5 verrip1 said:

So you expect to get credibility by lying about having a college degree? Good luck with that, loser!

People on boards are judged not by the lies they make up about their props, but by the quality of what they post.

That is why you are considered worthless. A brainless c&p'er who tries to talk tough but has nothing to back it up.

Sir, I find that extremely offensive. I've completed my BSBA and I'm extrememely offended by you calling me a liar on that FACT, and a liar in general. I think you have contributed nothing useful to these boards. You might as well be a wallflower.

You offer up nothing? What have you contributed, name the stuff useful you have added to this site in market related advice, talk or anything intellectual in the sense of it. Scared are we? I bet you paid pumpers are.

Makes me wonder if we have a few posters that spoof their IP addresses, they basically say the same thing over and overwith.

[domeasingold]

Watch it! Another Karma is about to disappear.

Oh, BTW what is your BSBA in? What year did you matriculate? What institution?

[frankq]

"Q-TIP just got a history lesson and lesson on inflation. He tried to boast, insult and challenge me on his own accord. Didn't work out so good for him. In fact he has made himself look such the fool I'd be surprised if he shows his face here again."

Somebody looking for me? Ah, it's just Mid and his delusions of a single cause of inflation through the ages...........

[midwesterner (banned)]

Look at that, the MSN paid pumper come by to say high and use their connections to take my karma. Funny how it's only me losing karma, strange glitch??? FTI is desperate, he comes over here now to post some garbage.

You've already proven to everyone here that is not a paid pumper that you are all wrong and full of hot air. We have torn each and every point you make apart time and time again. You are standing on nothing solid but pure insults. That's all you have is insults, not anything to back it up.

I hope all can see how very desperate this boys are to get back the attention and creditability they lost.

[frankq]

Mid, the only lesson I could possibly learn from you is to find the misery and conspiracy in the cupboard, and if I'm really lucky, I'll learn to ignore your stupidity. But it's just soooo much fun to twist you up. Here's another lesson I can learn, to stop asking you and your brother direct questions related to your posts that I can never hope to get an answer to.