New frontiers: Jobs of the Future!

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

What has become more and more evident over the last few years is that space is going to provide a lot new jobs in the future, some of which we can't truly imagine right now.  We have all heard about space mining and space tourism, however, with all the garbage that is already surrounding our planet putting more ships into outer space is dangerous.  Hitting a piece of space trash could cause a serious problem so the logical solution is to clean up space. 

Demand for the removal of objects from orbit could eventually offer opportunities for private companies, Klinkrad said, though many issues, including legal ones, surrounding space debris would need to be settled first

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Oh and Would you take a one-way trip to Mars? 

A Dutch company is now accepting applications for brave men and women who would like to go to Mars.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

The reason that I'm not concerned with current job trends is because it's a current, short term problem. In fact, long term, we are at the beginning of an industrial revolution. This revolution will create new industries that will help fuel the American Renaissance, along with the global economy in ways we can't even imagine right now.

Imagine in the early 1900's when mass producing the car was first coming to fruition. Most were not thinking about an interstate highway system that would connect the entire country; trucks so big that people would pay to watch them crush buses, and GPS navigation systems. When the Wright bros first perfect flight the conversation wasn't, "when are they going to have jets that will take hundreds of people around the world and then into outer space?"

All of this new industry is being fueled by private enterprise, just like in the late 1800's, and it's the biggest contributing factor to the death of socialism. The best part; unlike past industrial booms, this one is being fueled by renewable energy that can be made in any factory, anywhere in the world.

Keep in mind, the American Industrial revolution that brought us to where we are today was plagued by multiple financial crisis and income equality battles; welcome to the space age.

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[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I don't think they are joking when they say they want to pull it off by 2021 pat. I guess we'll see. You're scientific theory might be something to look at to get a flight on one of these space planes that Virgin Galactic is going to be sending up.. 

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Lol, that's hilarious Pat. My dad was saying the exact same thing to me when they were down a few weeks ago. Just think, with how much capital is going into space in 30 years we will be able to take a ride on the star ship enterprise with your 3d printed organs...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 26, 2011 11:45:40 GMT -5 yclept said:

"yet we land robots on mars, and people barley even notice."

It's feared that Martian winters have finally done-in Spirit -- years after it's design life!
www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/rip-spirit-nasa-will-cease-attempts-contact-its-silent-mars-rover

We just watched MAVEN go up a few weeks back.  It should be there September 2014 to start orbiting Mars to examine its atmosphere.  Very interesting stuff.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Lol, I hear ya Pat. Funny thing is I guarantee there will be killer suites on these ships, flat panels, king beds. I'm thinking, the Royal Caribbean Oasis of the Sea, in Space.

Dec 9, 2013 10:09:26 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 26, 2011 11:45:40 GMT -5 yclept said:

"yet we land robots on mars, and people barley even notice."

It's feared that Martian winters have finally done-in Spirit -- years after it's design life!
www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/rip-spirit-nasa-will-cease-attempts-contact-its-silent-mars-rover

We just watched MAVEN go up a few weeks back.  It should be there September 2014 to start orbiting Mars to examine its atmosphere.  Very interesting stuff.

Without a doubt, the best part is all the work the space age will create. It's hard to imagine a situation at this point in which the US doesn't have a bright future.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Dec 10, 2013 23:59:34 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Lol, I hear ya Pat. Funny thing is I guarantee there will be killer suites on these ships, flat panels, king beds. I'm thinking, the Royal Caribbean Oasis of the Sea, in Space.

Dec 9, 2013 10:09:26 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

We just watched MAVEN go up a few weeks back.  It should be there September 2014 to start orbiting Mars to examine its atmosphere.  Very interesting stuff.

Without a doubt, the best part is all the work the space age will create. It's hard to imagine a situation at this point in which the US doesn't have a bright future.

All the more reason to develop technology to get us off this rock.  Talk about off-shore accounts... 

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Lol, no doubt the new tax haven is going to be the first banks that get up and going on Mars... I'm thinking we can just use stuff from all over our solar system to better life here.

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[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Apr 25, 2013 16:44:06 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Oh and Would you take a one-way trip to Mars? 

A Dutch company is now accepting applications for brave men and women who would like to go to Mars.

I wouldn't do it.  Just flat out don't have the guts.  But people will do it- it's just human nature.  I guess I'm just past the age where stupid seems exciting- but that doesn't mean some daring adventurers won't head out to Mars.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Just think of the wages that these guys are gong to get paid, it will make jobs on the patch look like burger flipping positions.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Well when we get warp speed pinned down, we will have a new earth to discover. But in the meantime, you want to talk crazy jobs.. The market for asteroid mining is a lot bigger than we originally thought. Also, the TV show on mars is just the beginning, Tesla CEO Elon Musk plans to colonize Mars.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

A friend reminded me that it's time for a quick update. The tide behind the current trends.

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Big Brother-style audience vote will be used to make final candidate choice
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[Virgil Showlion]

Apr 25, 2013 16:44:06 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Oh and Would you take a one-way trip to Mars? 

A Dutch company is now accepting applications for brave men and women who would like to go to Mars.

Not for all the applesauce in Glukenschlaaben.

Stuck in a tiny tin can for months, and then on a tiny Mars base deep underground for the rest of one's life, with no hope of rescue. Never seeing the sun again. Never walking in a park or hiking a mountain trail again. Never seeing one's family or friends again.

On Earth we call it "life without possibility of parole".

I suspect that orbital colonies will become a reality before the Mars mission actually does. The Mars mission has a high "wow" factor, but there are still too many practical hurdles to count.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Haha, I'm guessing that's a lot of applesauce?

I would say the end goal in all of this is to have a new Australia for sure.

You're probably right about the orbiting colonies, Milton Friedman's son wants to build floating ones in international water already. I also agree the mars mission faces plenty of challenges as well. However, eight-ten years ago if you would have told someone that we would be printing houses, body parts, and food in the manner that was on Star Trek, you would have been sent in for a psychological evaluation...

Eight years is a long time and we aren't talking about broke arse govts here. We are talking about billionaires that make billions every year. I would say the relativity is in how commercial space travel will send more people into space in one year than every govt program that has ever existed has.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

The space mining concept that has been discussed through this thread just took a huge leap forward today. While a couple weeks back a Virgin Galactic flight crashed leading some to question if commercial space travel was still a risk worth taking.

I'm sure some were asking the same question in 1908, when a Wright Model A crashed, or when Howard Hughes crashed the XF-11 in Beverley Hills during a test flight in 1946. The fact is that all new technologies go through problems, and unfortunately sometimes people lose their lives in the process. However, these problems are generally overcome and lead to industries and jobs that aren't even thought of yet.

The Big Picture: building a 3D-printed moon base

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I have been doing some digging into the viability of mining asteroids. The rocket crash in Virginia last month was actually a space mining company, Deep Space Industries. Aside from US companies, Japan is also launching an asteroid mining program. Competition in the market means we are very close to this industry becoming a reality.

The biggest question in the whole process is if we could actually land on an asteroid - now answered. The only variable left for the industry is if the process of landing on the asteroid is repeatable. Since it's been accomplished - and the ESA initially pegged their success rate at 75% - the fact of the matter, it's a very repeatable process.

I have to say; watching the technologies and industries initially discussed in this thread three and a half years ago come to fruition is pretty damn .

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

May 21, 2011 2:05:16 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

The technology that we design will help us design better tech; this will take us boldly - where no one has gone before.

Just look at all the commercial space flight programs, it's a lot closer than some might think.

It's not about THIS world.. It's about, out of this world!

Space: the final frontier and capitalism’s greatest opportunity

[dothedd]

Dec 5, 2013 12:37:58 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Lol, that's hilarious Pat. My dad was saying the exact same thing to me when they were down a few weeks ago. Just think, with how much capital is going into space in 30 years we will be able to take a ride on the star ship enterprise with your 3d printed organs...

 "3d printed organs"


YES INDEED! 

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

May 21, 2015 13:17:59 GMT -5 dothedd said:

Dec 5, 2013 12:37:58 GMT -5 Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger said:

Lol, that's hilarious Pat. My dad was saying the exact same thing to me when they were down a few weeks ago. Just think, with how much capital is going into space in 30 years we will be able to take a ride on the star ship enterprise with your 3d printed organs...

 "3d printed organs"


YES INDEED! 

No foreign metals! Yes, another great point.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

May 21, 2015 14:57:18 GMT -5 @patstab said:

We could pack our money up with us and take it and establish the First Financial Bank of Mars, would give out real estate loans and burial sites. Imagine a lot of people would like to say, I will be buried on Mars!!

Or send back Mars dirt, only $25.99 plus postage ( postage and handling might be a few thousand though) LOL!

Just think of all the entrepreneurial things you could do, we could die multimillionaires!

Do we call them Mars bucks? Red dollars? Dust doubloons?

Oh so much fun to start all over again. Of course some greedy big business on earth wanting it all would just refuse the next shipment of necessities, ah such is life!

I could be the first real estate agent on Mars!  Hubby could be the first construction superintendent, I could bring accounting and taxes to the new planet, Woo Hoo!

First off lets get one thing straight, no taxes!

It's great that you brought up shipping because I have been meaning to bring up that Flying at "Warp" Speed May Actually Happen Soon. So shipping materials to mars will take only a few days, with FedEx.

We will just have to put together a big company and wegde our way into Fortune 500 territory. Food will be needed. Biodome! With worms for organic food for the people and animals. All waste is converted to energy and water. All so we can mine the elements.. That rock is loaded with all the stuff we need here.

It's looking more and more like humans are one in an almost ifinite in this universe, so just imagine how much cash everyone could make. 

Edit: Oh and good ole US$ will work just fine, thanks.

[bimetalaupt]

May 22, 2015 9:38:15 GMT -5 @patstab said:

Well we are 68 and 69 so how many years do we have. I hate getting old, my mind wants to do so much in life yet and its not going to happen.

I think this would be a great final answer, sort of end of times for us. Could we take DD? I doubt it. That would be our only concern.

And Aham if its not our country taxing stuff it would be some other entity taxing things. It takes massive input of dollars, only the kind a

govt can supply for infrastructure, etc.

We are pretty self sufficient, can farm, grow, fix, build, sew, preserve, you name it.  But look, there are not even building blocks of anything

there, no wood, stone or rock perhaps, no known sources of water.  That is the issue with settling anywhere we know about so far, just

nothing.  It really is beyond the human mind when you think about our little speck of a world having the means to sustain life.  Can we

really be the only one.  I just can't believe in some other universe there is not something like an earth there or some kind of planet that

will support some kind of life.

But as the brilliant disabled young man, Hawking?, can't think of his name right now said.  If they are able to get here they are not coming

here to  help mankind, they will be coming here for us or our planet and their intellect will be such to develop the means to do so, we would

be better off not contacting them at all. 

But just thinking of interplanet or interstellar travel is just mindboggling and I love to think about it.

Hello Spock! 

STEVEN HAWKING

Stephen Hawking is the former Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at the University of Cambridge and author of A Brief History of Time which was an international bestseller. Now the Dennis Stanton Avery and Sally Tsui Wong-Avery Director of Research at the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics and Founder of the Centre for Theoretical Cosmology at Cambridge, his other books for the general reader include A Briefer History of Time, the essay collection Black Holes and Baby Universe and The Universe in a Nutshell.

In 1963, Hawking contracted motor neurone disease and was given two years to live. Yet he went on to Cambridge to become a brilliant researcher and Professorial Fellow at Gonville and Caius College. From 1979 to 2009 he held the post of Lucasian Professor at Cambridge, the chair held by Isaac Newton in 1663. Professor Hawking has over a dozen honorary degrees and was awarded the CBE in 1982. He is a fellow of the Royal Society and a Member of the US National Academy of Science. Stephen Hawking is regarded as one of the most brilliant theoretical physicists since Einstein.

[bimetalaupt]

May 22, 2015 21:28:14 GMT -5 @patstab said:

Isn't it something to really think about though. To have interstellar travel to experience something like that would be awesome.

I LOVE TO DREAM: A FEW FRIENDS AND I MADE AN 18 INCH reflecting telescope TO WATCH THE UNIVERSE in 1963.

Just a thought,

BiMetalAuPt

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Dream away !

@patstab, my gut is telling me that we are going to see the foundation of it unfold over the next 20 years. The goal right now is to have a realty TV show about the first Mars colony in 10 years. This is all fully funded and candidates are being chosen. You have to remember how 3d printing is changing the game. We don't need to send big steal beams and sheets of building materials, we just send bags of mix. It could very well be something viable for you guys as a "final hurrah!"

As far as govt and taxes, there has to be a better way. Govts start wars, and our infrastructure is in shambles while education is underfunded. Business is flush, and have to line dirty politicians pockets ten times over to get any little project done. It's time for a change alright.

I agree that looking at Mars truly makes you appreciate life on Earth! Like Bruce said, hobbiest have been trying to see if life is out there even longer than the govt has and so far it's been silent. They are now trying to say that tiny little bacteria are "forms" of life and we know how many things have to happen just right for our existence. We have found billions of planets and we have found lots that are similar to Earth in their make up, but still no life.

I guess we'll see, but for the time being there is enough space out there for us tiny little organisms to spread our wings and fly.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I think the moon is going to be the starting point, pat. Even better, you could eye up your property.... www.lunarlandowner.com

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

What's new?

I know what you mean. It's 30 bucks and if anything it would be a great gift for a kid. Christmas is coming, hmmm...

It's funny - I remember back in high school when I was talking about electronic books, micro computers, and the internet changing the game entirely. My "teachers" would get mad at me for making things up, and all the kids thought I was "crazy"...

Like Bruce said, dare to dream!

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Dealing a major blow to natural selection, DARPA Engineering Microbes to Terraform Mars. In other words, we are on the way to intelligently designing Mars to become a habitable plant.

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

Historical times these are indeed.

Elon Musk over the moon as SpaceX makes history with rocket landing

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

We landed on the moon!

Moon Express Approved for Private Lunar Landing in 2017, a Space First

[Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger]

I love when things come along that show that what we think we know, is a drop in the bucket. Duke knows what I mean when I say my model of the universe continues to line up. Stay !

This rocket engine breaks a law of physics. But a NASA test says it works anyway.