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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 3, 2011 0:24:35 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 3, 2011 22:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 4, 2011 21:43:03 GMT -5
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Mar 5, 2011 0:54:49 GMT -5
Ahamburger, before I was rudely banned I tried to explain that yes things are changing around the world, but your taking a situation and getting ahead of yourself. I hope as you that it does turn out well, and democracy takes hold, unlike Afghanistan and Iraq with western intervention and puppet presidents preselected. Have you studied the French Revolution at all? A very well meaning and positive movement hijacked by a mad man with delusions of grandeur and domination of the continent of Europe. No, not Hitler, but Napoleon. Remember the Napoleonic wars? I suggest you read this passage carefully before answering. Sure sounds like a that was also a major hornets nest that got a pretty good whack! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_WarsOliver Cromwell also comes to mind as someone that had replaced the old, with something not so new. We all wish to believe that Democratic revolutions always work out like the USA, which is a textbook example of best case scenario. This is not how it works in real world. We also have western pressures to put in puppets friendly to western needs, not to the peoples needs. Saddam Hussein was a Allie to USA for some time when Iran and ayatollahs were a bigger threat. We support not countries that are Democratic or should I say top globalist leadership doesn't, but those that can keep the flow of oil coming or serve a purpose to us. Point being, it's very premature to be cheering and happy, this is spreading, and is not just based on displeasure of governments, but inflationary pressures which are causing people to become hunger in this poorer nations. I liken it to taking a baseball bat (inflation) and whacking a hornets nest (middle east). Without the baseball bat was still a problem, but more of less contained. Inflation or the baseball bat just stirred up some pissed off hornets.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 5, 2011 1:30:03 GMT -5
First mid thanks for your level headed post. I'm not being prematurely happy. I'm just excited to see a group of people trying to stand up for their rights. I'm aware of the Revolution as to you speak.. A very interesting time in history indeed. Not unlike today. You see mid, it's not just the ME. It' s everywhere that doesn't have freedom. It's a snowball effect. People want the ability to do what we do. We aren't the French in the 1780's, nothing against their cooking, just wouldn't want to live there. We are the human race of the 21st century. We have the power to communicate with each other like never before, and we are trying to help each other like never before. Never forget that 60-70% of the economy is US. China has to move that way, big time. Wage for common folk like us rose 100% from 1865 to 1918 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_1865%E2%80%931918). At this point in time there are fewer and fewer slaves. The only way for companies to grow profits is to pay us more. By us I mean everyone in the entire world. We are all connected you know? Check it. Lebanon: Protests Against the Sectarian Regime: globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/04/lebanon-protests-against-the-sectarian-regime/China's Jasmine Revolution protests just 1 of 100,000 per year: www.ibtimes.com/articles/119076/20110304/china-jasmine-revolution-port.htm
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Post by texasredneck on Mar 5, 2011 11:49:41 GMT -5
sunrnr I read a report over 2 months ago saying Iran had operatives in every country surrounding Saudi Arabia to start revolutions. They have succeeded in the west bank, and Lebanon. Egypt, Syria, southern Iraq, Kuwait. Bahrain, UAE, and others are a work in progress. Most of these countries are ruled by a different sect of Muslims separate from those ruling Iran. Their goal is to choke off the flow of oil and eventually take over Saudi Arabia.
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Post by midwesterner (banned) on Mar 5, 2011 12:26:12 GMT -5
First mid thanks for your level headed post. I'm not being prematurely happy. I'm just excited to see a group of people trying to stand up for their rights. I'm aware of the Revolution as to you speak.. A very interesting time in history indeed. Not unlike today. You see mid, it's not just the ME. It' s everywhere that doesn't have freedom. It's a snowball effect. People want the ability to do what we do. We aren't the French in the 1780's, nothing against their cooking, just wouldn't want to live there. We are the human race of the 21st century. We have the power to communicate with each other like never before, and we are trying to help each other like never before. Never forget that 60-70% of the economy is US. China has to move that way, big time. Wage for common folk like us rose 100% from 1865 to 1918 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_1865%E2%80%931918). At this point in time there are fewer and fewer slaves. The only way for companies to grow profits is to pay us more. By us I mean everyone in the entire world. We are all connected you know? Check it. Lebanon: Protests Against the Sectarian Regime: globalvoicesonline.org/2011/03/04/lebanon-protests-against-the-sectarian-regime/China's Jasmine Revolution protests just 1 of 100,000 per year: www.ibtimes.com/articles/119076/20110304/china-jasmine-revolution-port.htmAhamburger, I agree with you on the movement is growing. I don't believe it one cause, but obviously the discontent has been there for a long time. The internet is like the coffeehouses and pubs of old where the sharing of ideas like Voltaire, Jefferson, and Thomas Paine were discussed then. The people around the world have new media, and is very much the reason much of what I speak here is shunned often because now the internet has given a platform for these ideas in which the mainstream media hasn't. I think this is world wide rejection of globalism, Anglo Saxon banking cartel, and rejection of the old way of few manipulating the many. Where I think we agree is it's all well meaning, but where I differ is that the globalist hijack these movements of peace, and can spur violence, or install puppet governments. Question is, is the situation getting out of hand for them, and people in nations will see them for who they are, or will they get their way again? My personal feelings is that this revolutionary movement is not much unlike the French Revolutionary times. "Let them eat cake" attitude is widespread in many nations, inflationary pressures are hurting people making 2 bucks a day, need to feed families somehow. The inflation is the tipping point which I believe did this, and the internet is their weapon of choice to fight back by organizing and peaceful demonstrations. I also differ on the French comments, and would say to you "Viva La France". I always rejected the Neo Cons French and German Bashing, and feel outside of some major dictators in their histories they have wonderful countries and culturally rich with art, music, cuisine, history, and the people are wonderful. Might I remind anyone bought into the Freedom Fries BS, that we as USA would not be a nation as we were if not for those much hated French. Some respect is due I think. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_in_the_American_Revolutionary_WarNow I do understand some of these effort were because of being anti British, but still without French support we would have failed long ago.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 5, 2011 13:43:26 GMT -5
Mid you are 100% correct that the French Revolution is why we have freedom today. They spread the English out so that the USA could break off and start bringing change to the world for good. If Iran is so organized why are the people in Iran rioting??
I agree Sunrur the media has done a great job smearing fear all over this. Do you have an idea of who might be able to seize power in all of this? There is no single leader so far. They are rioting everywhere. No leader that exist right now holds the influence to rise up and seize it from the people. Again they are rioting in Iran and Lebanon now. If people are thinking Osama, I highly doubt the people are going to get behind the latest criminal that has brought war to their lands. I would like to hear a theory aside from the generalization on Islamic fundamentalist fear. I see a scenario where the people in the Middle East continue to do what they are doing until they get what we have here; it will most likely be a separation of worship and state. It’s not just the Muslims that are protesting. People of all faiths are. Will they still hate and want to kill the west. No. Why? Dollars.
Our society allows Muslims to practice their faith more openly than theirs does right now. Not the extreme kind, but the peaceful kind that really isn’t allowed there right now. The Muslim world carried the sciences for the 1000 yrs right AD, when we were really oppresses as a western civilization. Now they are shunned by the extremist leaders of a few of the countries in that area, that still have a capitalist system set up to generate money. It has only been the last while that you are seeing thing like what is going on in Europe with the clamping down on Islam. Why? Extremism and corruption, exactly what the people are protesting. Iran erupted in ’09, this has been building for a long time. Just remember a lot of hard line Islamic extremist have been saying the west is Rome. It’s falling, ect. We have started to rebuilt, that wasn’t part of their plan, the people were told that wasn’t going to happen.
The world is watching now, this has never happened before.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 10, 2011 0:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 10, 2011 2:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by kman on Mar 10, 2011 22:28:24 GMT -5
hunger strikes. Now that is dedication. The Venezuelan people are wonderful to be around. I think the last time I was in Venezuela was the early 90s...great time...gas was 8 cents a gallon...a beer was 20 cents. The people were amazing. A lady owed me some change from a purchase and I said keep it. She left her stand went through the crowd, to give me the change. Did I mention the topless beaches.
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Mar 10, 2011 22:40:45 GMT -5
I think you mentioned the topless beaches. Most people in most places are decent I find. It's these asshole leaders out there that are the problems. Freedom through oppression is the strangest concept that I have ever heard of.
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